| Prostitution and the Religion...
Posted: 11/22/2005 12:20:11 AM | Alright..so this topic may seem a bit odd, but I am asking this question for a good reason..I promise. I don't really have to think TOO hard to know what the Bible says about Prostitution but I was wondering if you all had any verses in regards to the issue that I could read? Further to that...what do other religions say about the act itself, if anything? Whether it be anyone here that follows Wicca, buddhism, islam....whatever....
Second part of my question..what are YOUR thoughts on the issue? Would you be friends with someone that was one? Or would it go against your religion? What if you associated with someone and didn't know that was their choice of profession? Ok...discuss... but let's try to be respectful .....
***I should mention I was attempting to find verses in the Bible but failed to find them...but I know there are some there somewhere.. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 5:14:55 AM | Personal thoughts on it are.....It's not my place to judge someone, and yes I would be friends with someone that was a prostitute.
I have always said, I would do what it took to put food on the table for my kids, and if that was the only method I had available I would use it.
As for the bible, I don't know other then Jesus telling those around him, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 9:24:17 AM | Well I see that this is a topic no ones touching LOL I'd prefer it that way if there will be mudslinging...but I figure we are all mature enough to discuss without all that dirty stuff.
Anyways...SFL... Im attempting to find verses and um can't..lol I wonder if people consider prostitutes and escorts the same thing? Essentially...I suppose so...anyways... I know that I know quite a few in the later catagory and they are amazing people, some even consider themselves christians...hrm... | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 9:43:54 AM | According to Hinduism sex is not undivine, but lust is definitely. Sexual union between a householder and a prostitute is against religious injunctions, (adharma) and therefore strictly prohibited. A prostitute is a fallen woman, who has deviated from the normal life and made her looks as the means of commerce. She is a victim of her own karma and through her charm she not only drags others into delusion and darkness but also destroys her own future. Association with her would taint the mind and the body, deludes the buddhi and hampers a person's spiritual progress.
The left hand tantric practices involving sex in which many degenerate scholars of east and west take particular interest and the techniques of Kamasutra, which the press often adopts for its sensational trash, are followed by a microscopic minority who do such things in complete secrecy.
Hinduism may not favor prostitution, but would sympathize with the prostitutes of the whole world and wait for the poor souls to redeem themselves through their good actions and return to the path of dharma someday in future. Hinduism does not condemn a prostitute, but prostitution definitely. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 9:53:08 AM |
Second part of my question..what are YOUR thoughts on the issue? Would you be friends with someone that was one? Or would it go against your religion? What if you associated with someone and didn't know that was their choice of profession? Ok...discuss... but let's try to be respectful .....
***I should mention I was attempting to find verses in the Bible but failed to find them...but I know there are some there somewhere..
Christ did not hang around with "goody goodies". Christ hung out with prostitutes, tax collectors etc ie the downtrodden and outcasts of society and was condemned by the "religious" faction of his day by doing so. Keep seeking and you will find this to be so ... | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 10:00:28 AM | I have a friend who is a prostitute, he works in the Porn industry and has sex for money, by any definition a prostitute I recon. But he's a great guy and loves his work (as most men would I'm sure) and he respects women as people. He sais that he has a talent and just wants to make money from the only thing he is good at.
As apagan I see no problem with prostitution in itself. As long as you are not hurting anyone, and you are not being forced into it, then whats the harm?
In history, there has been greater aceptance of prostitution, with legal brothels in Rome (that had stone beds! Ouch!) and even reverance of a Prostitute goddess called Ishtar in Sumer and Babylon.
In anchient Greece a slave (man or woman) would have to prostiute themselves out to earn enougth money to buy thier freadom, at which point female slaves became Hetaera, the most respect women in all of the Greek world, where as males just became citizens with no special status.
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Posted: 11/22/2005 10:23:26 AM | It is called the "oldest profession" ...but I am convinced that it is merely second or maybe third oldest... I am sure that the oldest actual "profession" was leader, or headman, or chief..as such he was looked to in any and all times of unrest and bad weather... This evolved quickly into "holy man" or counselor... Now these important people were too busy doing ...important stuff to also go hunt and/or gather food..but they still expected their "pick" of the available women...and no doubt got them...
I suppose that the Women seeing this horseshit continue to go down in a completely "yeah,thats how we roll" kind of way would have finally put the smack down on the guy or guys and demanded that If they were going to be just taken by that smelly ass..then it better be worth their while in the form of better furs to wear (some are still like that) and more and choicer portions of food,...after all. they did have the young to care for as well...
And viola' prostitution is born inside the confines of the "holy mans" tent,or cave ,or whatever...
The femalles are in no way or form slow to pick up on things and I feel confident that something like this is pretty much where it sprang from...
Good for you Ladies...not letting us get away wiith our silly game...  | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 10:36:12 AM | Sweet, you're right, it is hard to find direct prohibitions on prostitution in the Bible. It's references to "whore" and "whoredom" are all negative, of course. The closest I can find is Proverbs 7. It paints the picture of an adultress, but not necessarily a prostitute.
I saw a show about castle life on the History Channel once, and it mentioned a situation where a priest condoned prostitution in the castle. Not that the castle turned into a brothel. It was just a concession to the underbelly of human nature, he claimed, much like the dirty business of having to go #2. I thought that was an interesting piece of trivia.
And I would be friends with a prostitute, but I have never had the opportunity to befriend one!
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Posted: 11/22/2005 1:11:35 PM | First I appreciate all of the responses which have been civil..LOL Which is always a good thing. Now in regards to the Bible considering having sex outside or marriage is a sin, obviously prostitution would be as well..on THAT level I was looking for verses which oddly seem to be hard to find! LOL The the poster that said in Hinduism that a prostitute isn't wrong but the act of it is... That's interesting... it's kind of like Ontario Laws here in Canada. Prostitution isn't Illegal..however solicitation is...figure that out? LOL
Flyguy you would be friends with a prostitute? That's refreshing to hear! Honestly I thought some of you would be like "I'd condemn them to hell fo r fear they'd plague me with their disease" sorta of thing LOL
Well if anyone can find verses that would be awesome..and I appreciate all of the view points...curious on the Buddhists view...Peter where are you? LOL | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 1:26:48 PM | I would love to have a few female prostitute friends. It can only be a win, win situation
there. No wining & dining or the dreadful questions- "Do you love me?". Just business at
hand and adios. Ah, to dream a dream of millions!!!
I will have to research, but if memory serves me, I do not think there is any mention of sex
itself as a sin. The sin of sex would fall under, adultry, lust, covet, etc. But don't take this
as bible for right now.......... | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 1:30:09 PM | I'd condemn them to hell for fear they'd plague me with their disease!
kidding....
I personally have absolutely no issue with prostitution. I personally would never use one for various reasons, but that is my personal choice, not one I would enforce on others.
As for befriending one. I would not avoid it, but I do think it might lead to some uncomfortable sexual tension, especially as social groups overlap. Here you have a woman who you are friendly with, who would probably be willing to shtoink you for money. You have some money burning a hole in your pocket and something else burning in your pants as well. I know it would make most men think twice about preconcieved morals involving the trade.
My main problem with employing a protitute is that despite reason I still inexorably link sexual encounters with romantic love. Making use of a prostitute who was also a friend would cause all sorts of confused thoughts in me and even if I resolved never to do that, the thought would often be there causing tension.
Long story short. While I would not avoid being friends with a prostitute, I count my blessings that I am not. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 1:39:19 PM |
As for befriending one. I would not avoid it, but I do think it might lead to some uncomfortable sexual tension, especially as social groups overlap. Here you have a woman who you are friendly with, who would probably be willing to shtoink you for money. You have some money burning a hole in your pocket and something else burning in your pants as well
There are 2 kinds of escorts/prostitutes (according to those I know in the Industry) Ones that are ruled by money and ones that aren't. Ones that are ruled by money would be the ones that would probably be after yours regardless...ones that aren't...wouldnt' really care.
You also have to realize it isn't something looked upon as a "Great Career Path", LOL You may know someone who IS one....and you *think* that they have a normal 9-5 job. | |
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| Prostitution and the Religion...
Posted: 11/22/2005 2:37:11 PM | GEN 38:24 And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt.
Leviticus 19:29
Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness
Leviticus 21:9
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.
Deuteronomy 23:17
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deuteronomy 23:18
Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
There are more text like this but I dont think you will find one that says prostitution is a sin ( I could be wrong)word for word
As for having them as a friend, you cant judge ppl, Jesus sat with them and no doubt gave them a bible study but still he was around them and others that most ppl said were unclean. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 3:35:20 PM | | Now I know many feel that the Old Testaments are not to be taken literally...so....should these verses be taken as such since they are O/T? Btw thanks verses...for some reason I couldnt find them lol | |
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| Prostitution and the Religion...
Posted: 11/22/2005 3:39:52 PM | | I think they should, if one is a christine the ot and the nt are all the bible they go hand in hand. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 3:45:11 PM | | ^^ I agree personally..I've always said that if you beleive the Bible you should beleive it all, NT and OT however I'm surprised at how many christians don't seem to think that. | |
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| Prostitution and the Religion...
Posted: 11/22/2005 3:49:54 PM | | I have heard of some churchs that only put the nt in the seats and all they read out of is the nt. I just dont get it, the ot is full of text on Jesus and love I just dont know why. maybe they do it so they dont need to read the 10 commandments, I know some churches teach they are done away with. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 4:05:44 PM | | The only reason why God tells us to do certain things is to protect us. For instance: sex before marriage. If you were to completely follow what God says in that aspect, there wouldn't be the crazy diseases going around that we have today. If we weren't having sex with everyone and their fathers, and would save ourselves for out wives/husbands, it would be ok. No where in the Bible does it say NEVER HAVE SEX!!! ITS BAD FOR YOU !! AARRGG. No, He created it, but we go against what He says, and now we have to be very careful. If we were to just listen (I, myself, included) it wouldn't be like this today... | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 4:06:13 PM | Funn,
I have to ask, I have seen you use the word Christine...and it is not somthing I am familiar with. Could you explain please....
Sorry Sweet, not trying to hi-jack | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 4:09:36 PM |
For instance: sex before marriage. If you were to completely follow what God says in that aspect, there wouldn't be the crazy diseases going around that we have today. If we weren't having sex with everyone and their fathers, and would save ourselves for out wives/husbands, it would be ok.
But unfortunately how many people seek "other activities" outside of their marriage? Altho... it's kinda interesting when it comes to someone that Escorts/Prostitutes...they are generally less apt to have a disease than your normal 18 year old blonde haired/blue eyed cheereader. *shrugs* But yeah I was just curious on different viewpoints on the issue as well as thoughts about if you'd associate with them. I think almost everyone probably knows someone involved in someform in the Adult Industry ...but they just don't know it. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 5:02:44 PM | Ahh who cares funn, you're a smart dude. So you misspell something. Guess what? I think you might be human!   | |
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