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 Polly_G

Joined: 11/21/2005
Msg: 2
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/26/2005 8:33:37 PM
Question...why does the US have to be THEE Superpower?

The coldwar is over.
 chicoladysrock

Joined: 11/11/2005
Msg: 4
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/26/2005 8:45:23 PM
Well, if America don't maintain it's superpower stance-the whole world would collapse! Most countries have so many problems. If America became weak, other Countries would nuke everyone out of existance..I doubt very many would survive.....maybe somewhere on remote islands perhaps............One things for sure, Islam is hell-bend on world domination! They need to be humbled and forced back a few steps,.by force.
 Polly_G

Joined: 11/21/2005
Msg: 5
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/26/2005 8:56:40 PM
Islam is bent on world domination....well isn't that what you are talking about preserving in the US?

By the way, I know some muslims and guess what, they don't care about world domination. They care about providing a nice home for their family and putting food on their plates.

For people who have more weapons than anyone else, Americans seem awful afraid of anything un-American.

Fear...guns....ok I'm not scared of Islam, I'm scared of America.
 Polly_G

Joined: 11/21/2005
Msg: 6
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/26/2005 9:12:05 PM
Oops sorry and about "let the yanks do it". The yanks wanted to do it. Other democratic parties were looking into other viable options not to mention PROOF.

The US has a history of getting involved only in international situations when its own interests are at stake. The US is not policing the world and being humanitarian...its trying to control and protect its economic interests.

The US is currently offending a great deal of other countries with its bullying tactics. Those countries along with other alliances are banding together so the US no longer has such a large say in the UN.

The US doesn't like that. Its only allie in that regard right now is China. Because China doesn't want anyone to have any say in the human rights abuses it perpertrates.

If the US is so concerned with terrorism and global strife than how come it doesn't sign on to the International Criminal Court which would bring these people to justice? Instead, it tries to undermine it by bullying countries into signing bi-lateral agreements that completely undermine the court just so its own people can never be tried in it. What? America could never have people in its administration responsible for war crimes?

The ICC would only kick in if the US's own internal policies were inadequate to deal with the situation allowing the US to retain complete autonomy in its policies. The crimes tried by the ICC would only be of the worst type and violations of the Geneva convention. Like Saddam and Milosevic.

The US doesn't seem to want to cooperate with other countries...just dominate them.
 Polly_G

Joined: 11/21/2005
Msg: 8
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/26/2005 9:25:33 PM
Umm...the Roman Empire fell. It got greedy and put economics and power above that of people.

Just sayin...

Oh and its kind of ironic that you mentioned Romans because the statute the US won't ratify to become part of the ICC is called "The Roman Statute".
 Polly_G

Joined: 11/21/2005
Msg: 10
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Posted: 11/26/2005 10:14:20 PM
Hey look dude,

I was just in it for the friendly political debate...no need to get nasty.

I have my own beliefs its true, I'm not from the US. I don't want to be. I guess that's my whole point. Its not that I hate Americans or anything, quite the opposite. I have friends and family in America.

Its just not everyone wants to be an American. I happen to think the American foreign policy is doing damage to America. I know a lot of Americans who feel the same. Geez, most of the information I get is from the American based Human Rights Watch and their reports on their own government.

Didn't mean to upset you...I apologize.
 chicoladysrock

Joined: 11/11/2005
Msg: 11
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/27/2005 1:34:56 AM
a cute little pic and the words,"I aplolgize." GEE, my heart just melts!

If you don't like being an American GOOD! DON'T COME BACK! Go fight your little liberal war some where else... I'd die for this country and protecting her. Go wash your hair little girl-that's all you know about anyways. I know a lot of Americans myself who think just like you do and I call them, TRAITORS!

shit the only thing clean about you is you probably smell like Apples or something because of your creme rinse. I can't stand people who ride the fence.
 jrguitar23

Joined: 6/24/2005
Msg: 12
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/27/2005 4:38:35 AM
There's no such thing as friendly political debate; everyone is always right. All wars are started over two things; religion and politics. Anyone care to explain how having differing opinions on these topics get you laid? Here's some food for thought, though; SOMEBODY is going to end up playing the Superpower role. Let's weed out the countries who claim NOT to want the role. Hmmm...China?...no, they want it...Russia?....noooo, they want it too. France?...mmmpphh....giggle...Canada?....no...South America's thousand little countries?...uhhh...no. The EU?....heh,heh...uh-uh..HOW ABOUT.......whoever assumes the role of World Superpower exhibits a little worldly charity, and strives to help everyone else? To do this, all we have to do is eliminate.....POLITICIANS. All of them. Presidents, Premiers, Kings, Queens, Speakers of the House...and I happen to LIKE the smell of apples
 chicoladysrock

Joined: 11/11/2005
Msg: 13
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/27/2005 8:58:42 AM
I love Apples too and the smell of them..but only in a,..........American Baked Apple Pie.
 Dave_86

Joined: 11/26/2005
Msg: 14
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Posted: 11/27/2005 9:15:57 AM
Someone out there in the world of reality will realise the reason no one else is acting like the USA and trying to be a big, good, superpower, is that it is bankrupting the USA and will soon end up in a russian post cold war state. Have fun when your country goes broke after fighting several failed wars, and doesn't 'stay the course' You'll live in poverty canada won't, UK won't, germany won't.
 Mossberg

Joined: 7/16/2005
Msg: 15
Things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/27/2005 10:09:59 AM
..a cute little pic and the words,"I aplolgize." GEE, my heart just melts!
If you don't like being an American GOOD! DON'T COME BACK!
Go fight your little liberal war some where else...
I'd die for this country and protecting her.
Go wash your hair little girl-that's all you know about anyways.
I know a lot of Americans myself who think just like you do and I call them, TRAITORS!

shit the only thing clean about you is you probably smell like Apples or something because of your creme rinse. I can't stand people who ride the fence.


Looks like America's arrogance & bullying tactics have rubbed off on it's citizens.^^
 dmotz39

Joined: 3/19/2005
Msg: 16
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/27/2005 11:45:10 PM
Davie.....Davie........
To bad you have no clue about our economy...We will never go broke my friend...
I stated earlier on another thread that we should close all borders.......Stop helping EVERYONE including Canaduh and drill Alaska for our oil..Kepp everything here at home....cutting off all the world...... And my lil cannuk.Within 2-5 years....Everyone will be busted and begging for our help....Fight your own battles and we will fight ours...We would still be the only superpower on the planet.....
 WorldCitizen

Joined: 11/4/2005
Msg: 17
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/28/2005 9:44:32 AM


to keep its position as a superpower in the 21st Century:

my replies are below each remark:


1. It needs to work on a highest priority basis with entrepreneurs to make a hydrogen fuel/nuclear power based economy a reality before mid century. It needs to say f**k the big oil companies and f**k OPEC and f**k the anti-nuclear crowd and develop these two clean, environmentally friendly energy sources on a crash basis.

I strongly agree with this... however, how can any president do this?
Carter tried a "top down" method of converting us to alternative energy and we threw him out on his ess.
There is big money behind fossil fuel in addition to it still being the cheapest form of energy and that money is what gets politicians elected to replace others who won't play ball.
A "bottom up" strategy off converting to alternative energy appears to be the only thing that will work in the free market economy as we know it... In other words: WE consumers will have to make this change despite the higher cost, despite the lack of support by the fossil fuel corporations that dominate the energy industry.
This is a tall order... if not impossible.


2. It needs to stop diddling around and take space SERIOUSLY. Humanity needs a frontier for its psycho-social health. The Chinese are smart--they understand this, while US moron politicians distribute pork for idiocies and trivialities. The US should concentrate on having a largely self-sufficient PERMANENT scientific station on the moon by 2030, manned exploratory missions to Mars by a decade later, a permanent largely self-sufficent scientific station on Mars by 2055, and a permanent colony there by the dawn of the 22nd century. The easist, most economical means of doing this is to work on building the space elevator on a crash basis. Clumsy chemical rockets to lift large payloads into space are a dead end. In space, nuclear rockets capable of somewhere near one G of acceleration can be built at the elevator terminus to explore the moon, Mars, and the rest of the solar system in voyages of weeks or months instead of months and years. Serious studies should also be undertaken to determine the feasibility of terraforming Venus through seeding of bioengineered bacteria in that planet's upper atmosphere.

Unless a marketable research and development program can be built into space exploration, as we have done in military projects; space has the same problem as above.
"What's in it for me?" is what people will ask... and if an answer including immediate rewards of some sort is not forthcoming, it will be scrapped.


3. Despite the criticism Bush recieves for the War in Iraq, the US--and the rest of what is left of what used to be called "western Civilization"--needs to realize that Islamic fundamentalism is the new Nazism and barbarism, potentially the beginning of anew Dark Age, and must contain or crush it at all costs if the West is to survive. See point one, as absolutely essential to achieving this.

I don't believe there's any way to do this. I think we're going to have to live with it. We could no more crush Islamic fundamentalism than they could crush Christian fundamentalism.
There are ways to negotiate peaceful coexistance however, as was shown during the cold war with Russia.

More will be forthcoming...
 jimtex

Joined: 4/16/2005
Msg: 18
Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/29/2005 4:54:28 PM
Artanaxes..."People fear American culture--they don't want to be submerged. "

What a pant load!!! I suppose the American culture is forced upon foreign. Strange but lets' take a little of what most consider "American Culture"...How about McDonald's? When is the last time a Frenchman was forced to eat at McDonald's in Paris? When was the last time a Canadian was forced to drink Pepsi or Coke? You see, American business provides the masses what they want. If they didn't want it...guess what? It wouldn't be there. BTW, when is the last time you paid money to see a french movie? I'd wager you've seen 100 times more American made movies than french.
 acburbank97

Joined: 4/23/2005
Msg: 19
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Definitely a different topic: things the United States MUST do...
Posted: 11/29/2005 10:00:07 PM
Polly,
The US won't ratify the ICC b/c we don't want our servicemen/ women tried in an international court without our consent. Ever hear of the Marshall Plan? I'm sure, in your eyes, the world would be a better place without the US being around the last 100 years, right? How convenient to sit on the sidelines and snipe at every action or lack of one that the US chooses to take. Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo were critical to US interests how? If the US saved an ocean liner full of starving orphans & puppies I'm sure you'd find something wrong with the way or how we did it.
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