| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 12/3/2005 8:06:06 PM | I've always been a huge Gretsky fan but lately he is really starting to bug me. He has started to comment on everything (even non-hockey related topics) and gets so upset when anyone challenges him.
Sure, he was an amazing goal scorer in his day but, he has to prove himself in other areas and can't just expect people to just agree with everything he says without questioning it.
His coaching has been sketcky at best. He's the coach not the GM so what is he doing getting rid of players? He got rid of six of them! This will surely come back to haunt him because he basically insulted everyone of them, their work ethics and playing abilities after they left (a huge no-no for coaches on all levels). They may be young but they are pros and at that level don't need to be screamed at from the bench during games. Which is what Gretsky does.
Why didn't he get penalized like other coaches for that Shane Doan fighting incident?
How did he become head coach all of a sudden and everyone thinks it is great but they (on T.V.) openly say thinks like "Who does he think he is?" about Patrick Roy when he is only coaching a minor league team he owns?
I could go on about his automatically taking all the credit for the Olympic Hockey team's gold medal, the crockadile tears at press conferences, refusal to give credit to youg player, his overpriced clothing line, the very many comercials and endorsements but, overall I just have to say I have had enough of the retired from playing Wayne Gretsky!
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| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 12/3/2005 9:13:19 PM | I do agree that he got more credit than what he deserved, no doubt he was good when he was in his 20's but that was it. And anytime u get so much attention and your name becomes so big, its human nature to become concieted but i dont know the guy personally.
And as far as getting rid of some players goes, dont forget he is not just the head coach of that team but hes the part owner just like mario is with pittsburgh, so its no surprise he can have more say than just an ordinary coach can. | |
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| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/15/2006 7:08:51 PM | You guys sound like a couple of jealous twits.
Whether Gretzky was or is the best player in the league ever; he does hold over 50 personal records, many of which will probably never be broken in the NHL EVER including his single point season record, goal scoring record, his four 200 point seasons, his nine art ross titles. I don't think there are too many players in the league that boast a resume like his. In fact I don't think there is any player who can.
I'm not here to write in rescue as if I am a big fan but to read some of the nonsense blogs on here without so much as a logical thought, is rediculous. Gretzky's contributions extend beyond what he has done on the ice. Hockey in the west is alive and thriving because of his presence. As an ambassador to the game and a Canadian sports icon, he has promoted and help sell the game to many areas where hockey was once deemed unpopular. The west for example was known as 'hockey wasteland.' This playoff run we have two teams from the west still competing in the playoffs.
Having the experience and having played the game do make Gretzky a better candidate over coaches and coaching staff that have never played.
I happen to know some of the coaching staff personally and to listen to some of the ignorant comments made on here about coaching styles, man you guys need to get your facts straight.
When you do your research and know what happens on the inside, then I could see your points. Until then, write on what you do know, not what you think you know. | |
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| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 1:51:51 AM | | I personally think , that you were never a huge Gretzky fan , or how could you turn on the guy that fast , because of an overpriced clothing line ? gimme a break . The guy has done more for hockey in Canada AND the States , than anyone . I hated him when he was a player , Hated the Oilers , Hated Messier , all of them , Especially Gretzky . He was just a great player , who kicked my teams ass all the time . My opinion changed , as his Stature in the game grew . He is an icon , he represents everything that is good in the game , and is all about making it better . He cares about this country winning world chamionships . Do you think he runs the Olympic teams because it might help get his name out there ? or , he needs the attention ? When he got the team together in 2002 , and they won , I never saw him take the credit , he was humble , as he always is . And when we got our asses kicked this year , you just knew he was going to take the heat for it . well , not from me . I love the guy , hes a great role model for kids , and a hero to most who watched or played . | |
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| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 10:00:53 AM | | I absolutely HATE when people who don't know what they're talking about take such a charged stance on a position. Wayne Gretzky is the greatest player of all-time. Period. Not only that but he is an incredibly smart hockey man. As was said before, he is probably the greatest ambassador this game has ever and may be one of the sole reasons the league is flourishing. He has handled himself with grace and class through tough times and has never strayed from accepting responsibility for the good as well as the bad. | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 11:31:46 AM | | It wasn't like he had a force-field around him. He played in the same era as many of greats. It's undeniable that he was one of the greatest players to play the game...whether you like him or not. | |
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| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 11:49:21 AM |
Gretzky= Biggest Fraud in NHL
Must not know much about hockey to actually even write that. He is far and away the best offensive player ever to play in the NHL...Period
No one will ever touch some of his records as one of the previous post pointed out.
Could you clarify what makes you think he is a Fraud??? | |
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| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 11:58:16 AM | That's right "Blue",i'm totally with you and most others around who know.
Wayne Gretsky is and always will be known as:"THE GREAT ONE"
I cannot see any player who will ever be as great as he was. He was like the "JORDAN" of hockey. Nothing better than watching those to great players in Jordan/Gretsky on the toob for there will never ever be anything like it. NEVER EVER!!  | |
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| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 12:11:13 PM | Much like Gretzky.... Michael Jordan was a superstar on the court and arguably the G.O.A.T. of his sport but when it came to being the G.M. of the Washington Wizards he just wasn't doing a good job.
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| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 12:31:41 PM | Oh i agree with ya parker68.
Jordan could not do his job as G.M. in Washington but on the court was and will no one will never ever be the same no matter which player is playing. NEVER EVER!!
Jordan was and no will COMPARE!!nor will any1 come close 2 either!! You agree or no.
Have a good one parker68. | |
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| Wayne Gretsky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 1:21:31 PM | oh fer sher.
Jordan remains the most prolific athlete of the modern era. you can't even compare him to anyone else. championship titles, personal and team records, he just made everyone around him on the court play better. can't even begin to argue with you there. he was the best.
It's guys like Gretzky and Jordan that you wish wouldn't go back and involve themselves in the coaching/front office aspects of the game that they played. it kind of minimizes their legacy and almost gives you good reason to forget how good of a player they actually were.
what was really shocking (and i assume very embarassing for Jordan) was when the Owners of the Wizards basically took Jordan in a room and said the deal to keep him on as the GM was off. He got left out in the cold. That really sucks.
Almost reminds me of Mario Lemieux and the awkward situation with him owning part of the Penguins. What's the dilly with that? Do they still owe him more money? I wonder what the future looks like for Pittsburgh -- at the moment doesn't look to great!
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 1:50:06 PM | | The rumour around Pittsburgh is if they don't get a new arena then the team will move. Bettman has said that the next city to get a franchise would be Winnipeg. Is it wrong for me to wish ill on Pittsburgh so the NHL can go back to Winnipeg? | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 2:02:07 PM | | I heard a while back , that there was a guy that wanted to build a '' Gaming Complex '' in Pittsburgh . An Arena , Casino type thing . If it went through , the team would stay , but havent heard anything about it since then . I think the team is gone anyway , With Mario out of the picture , and the team finishing way out of the playoff race , theyre not going to be able to sustain a fan base there , in my opinion, even with '' the next one '' there . Nothing against them , but like styles88 , I would love to see them moved to Winnipeg as well . So unfair to that city , to lose their team , the way they did , and now the rules are in their favour . Crosby as a Jet ( hope they call them the Jets again too , lol ) that would be sweet . | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 2:10:39 PM | Now that's good threadin' here styles88 for that would be great if the NHL comes back to the city of Winnipeg for my few times awatchin' the Moose play in the fairly new MTS Center were an awesome time in so but by the NHL coming back to this city which I am not born nor raised would be terrific to go and watch the Winnipeg ????.
I'm sure i'm speakin' what a Winnipeger would say to you the same cause the fellas i've met here through work{oh i hate sayin' that word}have told myself they were devastaded that the NHL was gone for they told me that Winnipeg is/was/maybe to be again a very much big time hockey city.
Ciao & thanks there styles88  | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/16/2006 7:30:10 PM | Hmmm lets see, ur asking me to name some one better the Gretzkey, plain and simple
Howe, or how about THe Rocket, hmmm or Orr ya im guessing u think these players are shit? | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/17/2006 6:12:27 AM | Nope...I didn't ask you to name someone better I asked to clarify how Gretzky was a fraud.
As for Howe...hmm I think Gretzky passed him as scoring leader and has more then 1000 points in 300 less games so Howe as great as he was couldn't hold a candle offensively to Gretzky.
Shoot even Messier is ahead of everyone else except Wayne 
As for the Rocket...yes great player I never saw him play but great skill as a goal scorer from highlights, movie that I have seen.
Orr...we can't even compare because he never played as long as Gretzky and injury sidelined him. When he did play I give you that he was an amazing player...but because his career ended early you can't compare him to anyone. But if you want to go stats...Gretzky had about 8-9 seasons where he had more points then Orr's best season.
Again all the players you mentioned are great hockey players....Wayne is simply "The Great One" | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/17/2006 6:52:29 AM | LOL injury season have not to do with comparing
Thats like saying you could never compare Barry Sanders or Emmit Smith with a Walter Payton or a Jim Brown
And actually Canada doesnt see Gretzky as the great one, that title lands on Crosby the overrated diver in the NHL, **** ur a frigging canadian player and he dives cuz he doesnt wanna be hit, if you dont want to get hit then go take up ballet or gymnastics | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/17/2006 7:33:13 AM | Sure you can compare players who have had their career shortened because of injury but it's a lot harder because you never will know whether they could have kept that pace going or whether they would have tailed off because of age etc. And the only point I asked again was Why did you say Gretzky was a Fraud. I never said there weren't other great players and there will always be a debate as to who the best was and you will always have Gretzky anywhere from Number 1 to 3...maybe 5 depending on who you are talking to.
As for Crosby...he's never been called and never will be called the Great One he has been called "The Next One" which people think he'll be the next Gretzky. I agree that he dives alot wish he played more like Ovechkin...that kid is amazing and he runs people over. | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/17/2006 8:29:15 AM | | I'm kind of excited to see how Crosby does nxt year with Malkin playing with him. Ovehckin was abaolutely phenominal but some people forget that Crosby is only 18. Ovechkin was better than him, but give Crosby two years and see how good he is when he's as old as Ovechkin is now. I think the NHL is in good hands personally. Too bad Pittsburgh didn't win the draft lottery again...could you imagine what that team would look like in 3 years with Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, AND Fleury? And to take the fantasy one step further, why not throw the old Jets jersey on each of them for good measure. Oh man....I need to sit down...dreaming makes me lightheaded... | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/17/2006 9:40:04 AM | Firstly , I like the way you think styles , lol .
Secondly , why would a person write the names of some of the best players in history , and ask , I suppose you think theyre sh*t . No one who appreciates hockey , would ever say any of those players are sh*t. But comparing to Gretzky , they were totally different . although way before my time , the Rocket was a pure goal scorer, and not afriad of the rough stuff , Howe was an all around player , and loved to mix it up , Orr , a defenceman who put up unbelievable numbers . None of them however , put up numbers close to that of Gretzky. He had 4 , count em 4 , 200 + point seasons , noone ever came close to that .
Thirdly , does anyone of a good photoshop program , I'd like to see the pictures of Crosby & co. in the Jets jerseys , keep the dream alive styles , lol . | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/17/2006 11:06:35 AM | Top 3 Reasons Gretzky is a fraud
1. Says he loves the game he respects the fans, players, coaches etc, Yet he'll say so and so play like crap, our team stinks etc etc Yes the game is emoitonally but when u badmouth ur players , fans coaches, ur gonna lose alot of respect quickly , not to mention ur job
2. The Gambling Ring and then acting like he had no clue abou it, his friggin wife and coach were in on it "ummmmmm ya i dunno" ya really smart answer Gretzky
3. The League then is alot more different then the present like I guarante if Gretzky was in his prime he wouldnt be much better then a Sakic, or a yzerman in the league today
Stop giving the man so much credit it jsut goes straight to his head, do i think he was talented? Yes, but lately anything he's done is jsut the wrong mvoe and he simply has no respect to thsoe who it hruts the most | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/17/2006 11:34:19 AM | Dude...I have yet to see one valid point in almost ANY of your postings. I applaud you for being opinionated, but seriously...check stats and stories before you run your mouth. EVERY coach I have ever seen at some point has criticized their own team. Sometimes it's used as motivation. Does it always work? No, but sometimes it does. His "us against the world" speach from the 2002 Olympics was part ****ing about perceived favortism against Canada and part motivation of his players. Either way, it was a brilliant use of psychology and served it's purpose as we went on to win the gold. Do I always agree with everything he says just because he's Wayne Gretzky? Hell no...much like I don't agree eveything Don Cherry says or other hockey analysts. But at the same time, I can appreciate a well thought or defended position even if it's opposite of my own. Whether he's emotional or not, Gretzky has always been able to back up his words.
The gambling ring. This one is a doozy and could take days to hash out so I'll keep it short. The police have said that they have no information that would even slightly suggest that Gretzky was a part of it. Did he know about it? I'm sure he knew about some of the betting. Like you said...it was both his wife and one of his assistant players. At the same time, knowledge of betting is not illegal. In fact...betting itself isn't illegal. What is however illegal is running an unlicensed betting company and that's what this is about. Gretzky had no part of that so whatever point you were trying to make is null anyways.
Lastly, you REALLY need to check your stats before you start throwing names in. Sakic started playing for Quebec back in 1989. That was the first year Gretzky played for the Kings. Gretzky went on to play 10 more years. Now the really ridiculous one. Steve Yzerman started playing in 1984. That is only 4 or 5 years after Gretzky did. In fact, there were at least 2 or 3 seasons in which Yzerman finished 3rd or 4th behind Gretzky in scoring. The only difference was Stevie Y was scoring 130 points and Gretzky (and Lemieux) were scoring 180+. I'm not taking away anything from either Sakic or Yzerman, just more pointing out that they played in the same era as Gretzky did and he still blew away their accomplishments. There are only two players in history that I would mention in the same breath as Gretzky and that would be Lemieux and Orr. | |
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| Wayne Gretzky is really starting to bug me.
Posted: 5/17/2006 4:58:50 PM | First off you really need to actually read my posts, because running your mouth
I said when Gretzky was in his prime same as Sakic in the NHL he couldnt comapre to them which is true, Gretzky was a man who ****ed if he didnt get the puck, watch some of his palyoff games and you will see the tempers he had on the bench. And as far as betting goes, he can be charged because he had knowledge of this ring he jsut doesnt want to have a bad name for himself, like how do you not know ur own staff and wife were opearting that, BS Gretzky your a fraud | |
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