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what is up with all the excessive punctuation?
Posted: 12/5/2005 8:25:25 PM
A public service announcement.


Ellipsis ???e???? (plural: ellipses e??e??e??, Greek for omission) in linguistics refers to any omitted part of speech that is understood; i.e. the omission is intentional. Analogously, in printing and writing, the term refers to the row of three dots (…) or asterisks (* * *) indicating such an intentional omission. This punctuation mark is also called a suspension point, points of ellipsis or colloquially, dot-dot-dot.

An ellipsis can also be used to indicate a pause in speech or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence.


All right I can almost see people using more then three if they really have a lot more to say, but still that is not correct English and you should know that, some people use them just here and there like salad seasoning, for no apparent reason what so ever, I fell like i am decoding a half pronounced radio message or something. Furthermore there is no call for using more then one coma in a row ever, that is just wrong, wrong, wrong; it is not even English actually, so STOP doing it!

Now I know some of you clever well dressed (subjective) monkeys are going to bring on the punctuation parade just because i said all that so go ahead let her rip, bend my poor language over the table and take her from the rear you semi-literate ner-do-wells.
 j-roc

Joined: 5/24/2005
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Posted: 12/5/2005 8:28:05 PM
I like to use four dots....it is my trademark.
 Gotapulse

Joined: 3/21/2005
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Posted: 12/5/2005 8:32:49 PM
We invented the period to act as a break between sentences. One will do.
 j-roc

Joined: 5/24/2005
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Posted: 12/5/2005 8:33:19 PM
I use it more as a....pause. Maybe I should use a semi-colon.
 CoffeeCanuck

Joined: 7/30/2005
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Posted: 12/5/2005 8:51:02 PM
We all have different writing styles. I'm a big 'dotter' and use it throughout my writing on-line. If someone doesn't like it.........too bad. As long as the writing is legible and easily understood I have no problem. Now one little thing that does bug me is when people don't start a sentence with a capital letter.
 Gotapulse

Joined: 3/21/2005
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Posted: 12/5/2005 8:53:00 PM
^Yeah, but if people don't like it...too bad !
lol
 CoffeeCanuck

Joined: 7/30/2005
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Posted: 12/5/2005 9:00:31 PM
^^^True enough........lol

 Mojo_LA

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 late™

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Posted: 12/5/2005 10:03:47 PM
The amount of dots is dependant on how long the pause, .....is.
 robert_paulson

Joined: 7/28/2005
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Posted: 12/5/2005 10:14:14 PM
.........................................no................. matter............. how ..........many ......dots are...... used, ...........it's........... still ............better ............than ..........the .......excessive.......... use....... of emoticons...................
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Posted: 12/5/2005 10:20:21 PM
But that in no way makes it a cunning or even an interesting evolution in the ridiculous net lingo that clutters these here pof threads, look back, people in the old days knew how to post to a thread with less dotty business, this is a new thing, and the coma abuse as in,,,,, <--- that is just the silliest thing, I still remember the first girl I saw post that way (it is mostly girls you will notice), she was really hot so no one said anything and now look what we have, total comma silliness everyplace, look at the state of things, dots & comas everywhere, it is shameful really.

My language my beautiful language...

This is the wiki on semicolons by the by.


The origin of the semicolon is traced back to the Italian printer Aldus Manutius the elder. He used it to separate words opposed in meaning, and to mark off interdependent statements.

The earliest general use of the semicolon in English was in 1591. Shakespeare's sonnets have semicolons, and Ben Jonson was the first notable English writer to systematically use them.

Language usage
In English, the semicolon has two main purposes:

It binds two sentences more closely than they would be if separated by a full stop or period. It often replaces a conjunction such as and or but. A writer might consider this appropriate where they are trying to indicate a close relationship between two sentences, or a 'run-on' in meaning from one to the next; they don't wish the connection to be broken by the abrupt use of a full-stop.
It is used as a stronger division than a comma, to make meaning clear in a sentence where commas are already being used for other purposes. A common example of this use is to separate the items of a list when some of the items themselves contain commas.
There are several rules that govern semicolon placement:

Use a semicolon between closely related independent clauses not joined by a coordinating conjunction: "I went to the store; they were closed."
Use a semicolon between independent clauses linked with a transitional phrase or conjunctive adverb: "I like to ride horses; however, they don't like to be ridden by me."
Use a semicolon between items in a series containing internal punctuation: "There are several Waffle Houses in Atlanta, Georgia; Greenville, South Carolina; Pensacola, Florida; and Mobile, Alabama."
A semicolon can be used to separate independent clauses that are joined by coordinating conjunctions when the clauses have internal commas that might lead to misreading: "After the game, I won a red beanie baby, four edible ingots, and a certificate of excellence; but when the storm came, I lost it all in a torrent of sleet, snow, and profanity."

Semicolons are always placed after closing quotation marks and are never followed by an uppercase letter, unless that letter begins a proper noun.

In Greek, a semicolon indicates a question, similar to a Latin question mark.


Examples
I am alone; my wife had to leave.
I travelled to London, England; Tijuana, Mexico; and Reykjavík, Iceland.
Lisa scored 2,845,770 points; Marcia, 2,312,860; and Jeff, 1,726,640.

Quote
"If you really want to hurt your parents, and you don’t have the nerve to be a homosexual, the least you can do is go into the arts. But do not use semicolons. They are transvestite hermaphrodites, standing for absolutely nothing. All they do is show you’ve been to college." ? Kurt Vonnegut

Semicolon may also be used to describe one who has undergone a colostomy procedure. This usage was coined by K. Williams in response to a joke about women's periods.




You have to draw the line on creativity some place...

Irony is I have dyslexia, but at least I am trying!
 late™

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Posted: 12/5/2005 10:22:21 PM
Comma abuse is just, ...wrong.
 creativedelight

Joined: 11/14/2005
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Posted: 12/5/2005 10:42:37 PM
T.h,a,n.k: y.o,u' f.o'r t;h/e w.r,i't,i:n.g lesson
 Ticketoride

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Posted: 12/6/2005 12:00:23 AM
No irritating posting Styles, including use of all Caps and excessive Punctuation.

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 BarnBabe

Joined: 5/12/2005
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Posted: 12/6/2005 12:26:48 AM
Have to admit I'm guilty of dot abuse myself.
 Gotapulse

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Posted: 12/6/2005 12:29:48 AM
The Onion should do a story on this.
 Polly_G

Joined: 11/21/2005
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Posted: 12/6/2005 2:00:04 AM
....I am also guilty of dot abuse; not to mention semi colon abuse. "I" have also been known to use excessive quotes to prove a point.

Ayt leest eye downt speel feneticlee
err mowst tymes
 BarnBabe

Joined: 5/12/2005
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Posted: 12/6/2005 2:34:06 AM
We should open "Punctuation and Spelling Abuse Anomymous"
 CPOsteve

Joined: 12/9/2004
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Posted: 12/6/2005 5:10:01 AM
'Cause it easier to use "..." . Takes less space and is easy to spell.
 ashley1861

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Posted: 12/6/2005 5:20:00 AM
PSAA ^ sounds good.... (dots indicate I am cupping chin in index finger and thumb and pondering the notion)

I always use dots, ALWAYS, and I am very serious about them; they make me the expressive person in writing that I yearn to... ummmm express.

Think of the dots as bling bling to the basic black dress. You wouldn't leave that out!

But if you insist that I quit cold turkey; the withdrawls will be missssserable;
I'll just have to make the best of it.
You won't like it.
I'll take it all out on YOU.

Does anyone know how to make Italics?
 chicoladysrock

Joined: 11/11/2005
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Posted: 12/6/2005 6:34:13 AM
dontusnoneatallthenjusttypeandkeepinallgoingaslongasyouknowwhatyouwriteitdon'tmatter
 Poet102781

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Posted: 12/6/2005 6:57:05 AM
I use so many dots....you have to read my posts.....brail style!!!! Who cares anyway this thread topic is way overdone....this is not school, this isnt a popularity contest. "You are not your job, you are not how much money you have in the bank, you are not the size of your wallet, you are not the car you drive" who the hell cares.....try creating a thread topic that is not overdone and fun......WHO CARES. ( Hitting the blunt) sorry for being so mean about it.
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Posted: 12/6/2005 10:57:46 PM
I like your posts lunch box, and I agree people are way too anal about the way other people spell, (perhaps I am such a person) I am all for creative wordsmithery, in fact I am certainly guilty of the over dot usage, it is just the dot thing lately seemed to be getting worse. Not mean at all of you, your quite right to point out the unctuous smarminess of it all.
 late™

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Posted: 12/6/2005 11:15:29 PM
it is just the dot thing lately seemed to be getting worse.


I picked up the habit on usenet. It is a "conversational" technique as far as I'm concerned.

I do find that on POF, I usually go into edit, and remove dots sometimes; if I've used too many.

My punctuation is hit n' miss, being a HS drop-out, and the fact that I failed English the two years I was there.

I had the same teacher both years, the second year I had her, she kicked me out of English for reading "The Idiot " by Dostoyevsky. The incident went something like this.


"Why aren't you reading the assigned chapter?"

"I already read the book, I read it years ago"

"Then, ...read it again!"

"I did, last night, ...finished it in one sitting."

"Get out of my class, and don't come back!"


So, if my punctuation looks like I'm guessing? ...It's 'cause I am.

I blame High School English, ....and Russian literature.
 johnnysocko

Joined: 7/22/2005
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Posted: 12/6/2005 11:59:17 PM

All right I can almost see people using more then three if they really have a lot more to say, but still that is not correct English and you should know that, some people use them just here and there like salad seasoning, for no apparent reason what so ever, I fell like i am decoding a half pronounced radio message or something



^^^^^^This is a run on sentence. It is poorly punctuated and hard to read.
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