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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 12:00:50 PM | | What are peoples' thoughts about the observation that George Bush jr has a mental illness or a personality disorder? | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 12:28:35 PM | George Bush Jr., while interviewed, admitted to being a bit of a klutz and that his language skills are not the best. On the other hand, he is able to hold his own in forums. I don't see him as being mentally ill in the least. While I do not like his approach to the world or his policies, I think to suggest he is mentally ill or has a personality disorder is a stretch.
Despite his apparent flaws, I think George Bush Jr. is sincere in what he does, which is not to defend those actions in the least. When people hold that kind of office, there are also people pulling certain strings, which I would say goes with the territory.
I don't know of a single politician who is held in high esteem across the board. Bush is controversial, and in Texas people can still carry six-guns, while the man himself is in a different economic bracket than a great many, so his thinking might be expected to be different on a number of counts. He is friends with a lot of people in a lot of high places, and many of those people expect certain things done. George Bush complies. That does not make him mentally ill. Right now, it just makes him the President of the United States. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 12:53:40 PM | | It appears that he sincerely believes he is doing the right thing, and that his way is the only right way. It's that last part that scares me. Someone so dogmatic, so utterly convinced that he is "saving" by killing, does not care to listen. And, because he has such power - he doesn't need to. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 1:54:31 PM | I do NOT believe Bush is mentally ill. I DO believe him to be a sociopathic personality; one who doesn't care about anyone else's welfare but his own and would sacrifice the good of the nation for the purpose of accumulating his own personal wealth in the blink of an eye.
It's his family tradition.
His Grandather, Prescott, retained investments in corporations that sold ammo and oil to the Axis throughout WWII, even though his own son (Former President G. H. W. Bush) was flying a carrier plane in the pacific.
You may not agree with my theory, but you won't find any other that explains or accounts a** thoroughly for his behavior. He's a liar and a thief as we knew when he took office. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 2:23:56 PM | | My first idea about him was that he tries to prove something - maybe to his father...??? That he is good and capable and so on... I have not followed how the father is as a person but I could image him to be pretty strong personality and hard. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 2:41:06 PM | ousu: I believe G.H.W. is a sincere, but misguided soul. HE's the one who actually DID his duty during WWII (Despite his own father's being an early financier of Hitler) and when he succesfully prosecuted the Gulf War, listening carefully to POWELL, his closest advisor, he didn't make the obvious mistake he could have made. He didn't attack Iraq... How little we knew then...
We all blamed him for NOT attacking Iraq... even when a plot was revealed that Saddam had planned to kill him.
As for young George's relationship with his father: there is a strong rumor that he challenged and may have actually had a fist fight with his Dad in December 1972.
Imagine how little Dubyah thought of his Dad's military legacy as a WWII hero who was shot down and escaped capture, when he just totally BLEW OFF the Texas Air National Guard duty and disgraced his father.
At the republican convention in NYC this year, he totally upstaged his Dad, didn't even give him a chance to speak. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 2:53:20 PM | Elwood makes a lot of sense.
There's a bit here from the Psychiatrist Will Thomas (www.willthomas.net)
What drives a man to go against the wishes of his countryfolk and the entire world community - including the presidents of Russia, China, France and Germany?
How can a professed Christian continue to defy church leaders worldwide - including the Bishops of Britain and the Pope? How does he rationalize breaking the commandments of his God, which clearly prohibit coveting another's property, theft of their oil, and mass murder of defenseless populations?
How can he ignore his own generals when they complain, "We're advocating a policy that says we will invade another nation that is not currently attacking us or invading any of our allies." [Capitol Hill Blue Jan, 22, 2003]
To those who deem it unseemly to count the brick's on one man's load, let us recall that this unelected President is one brick short of killing what the UN fears could be up to a half-million people in Iraq. This massacre could easily see Pakistan's government – and its 30 to 40 nukes – falling to an al Qaeda/Taliban majority. Bush's announced plans to attack North Korea and Iran have already prompted both countries to hit the nuclear gas pedal, virtually assuring a "nuclear event". And his $5 trillion blowout has taken the American economy to a $2 trillion deficit in two short years. As ignored global warming triggers Extreme Weather Events, frightened Nobel price-winning economists warn that GW's proposed $600 billion tax cut is "fiscal madness" - "a very serious economic error" that will collapse the country in exactly the same way the ex-Soviet Empire went bust buying and deploying so many arms in so many places. Ditto Imperial Rome.
Are these the acts of a rational person?
Not since Nixon's famous freak-outs in the White House, which saw National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger ordering military commanders to ignore nuclear launch orders from their Commander-In-Chief, is it so urgent that we examine a president's cognitive capacities. [The Trial of Henry Kissinger]
It might be useful to scrutinize the following findings. While everyone "goes nuts" from time to time, the salient question is whether traits described below dominate and drive today's presidential decisions. Is a man called by other government reps, "an idiot" "an imbecile" "dangerously incompetent" and "a moron" competent, capable and qualified to direct America's unchallenged military might?
Read on. If you dare.
Pattern Recognition
" Is The 'President' Nuts?" asks Carol Wolman, M.D. "Many people, inside and especially outside this country, believe that the American president is nuts, and is taking the world on a suicidal path." [Counterpunch Oct. 2, 2002]
A board-certified psychiatrist in practice for 30 years, Dr. Wolman feels compelled to understand the "psychopathology" of man "under tremendous pressure from both his family/junta, and from the world at large." Dr. Wolman wonders if GW is suffering from Antisocial Personality Disorder, as described in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Fourth Edition:
"There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others: 1) failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest; 2) deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure; 5) reckless disregard for safety of self or others; 7) lack of remorse by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated or stolen from others."
Dry Drunk
GW Bush is highly regarded for "kicking" the twin demons of cocaine and alcohol addiction. If he is still off both wagons and there is no proof that isn't – such a triumph, encouraged and aided by his wife, is commendable.
When probing the mysteries of GW's brain chemistry, a key point to ponder is that damage done to brain cells from drug abuse is permanent and irreversible.
Quaker and university professor Katherine van Wormer co-authored the definitive, 2002, Addiction Treatment. This expert writes that "George W. Bush manifests all the classic patterns of what alcoholics in recovery call 'the dry drunk'. His behavior is consistent with being brought on by years of heavy drinking and possible cocaine use." [Counterpunch Oct. 11, 2002]
"Dry drunk," explains the professor, "is a slang term used by members and supporters of Alcoholics Anonymous and substance abuse counselors to describe the recovering alcoholic who is no longer drinking - one who is dry, but whose thinking is clouded."
Such an individual is 'dry' but not truly sober. Such individuals tend to go to overboard. A good example of Bush' "polarized thinking" is his call for "crusades" based on "infinite justice" for "evil-doers" comprising an "axis of evil".
Bush's "obsessive repetition" also remind this professor, "of many of the recovering alcoholics/addicts I had treated." Van Wormer worriers, "His power, in fact, is such that if he collapses into paranoia, a large part of the world will collapse with him."
Paranoia? Impatience? Rigid judgmental outlook? Grandiose behavior? Childish behavior? Irresponsible behavior? Irrational rationalization? Projection? Overreaction? these are all "dry drunk" traits.
Van Wormer observers that Bush's pompous pledge: "We must be prepared to stop rogue states and their terrorist clients before they are able to threaten or use weapons of mass destruction" is a projection from the world's leading rogue state preparing to attack with nuclear weapons.
"Bush's tendency to dichotomize reality" should be emphasized. Prof. van Wormer describes this is as either/or reasoning - "either you are with us or against us". A White House spokesperson puts it this way: "The President considers this nation to be at war, and, as such, considers any opposition to his policies to be no less than an act of treason.'' [Capitol Hill Blue Jan, 22, 2003]
BUSH'S BINGES – HISTORY IMPACTS THE PRESENT
Bush's binges were legendary. Van Wormer describes "years of binge drinking starting in college, at least one conviction for DUI in 1976 in Maine, and one arrest before that for a drunken episode involving theft of a Christmas wreath." She adds:
"The Bush biography reveals the story of a boy named for his father, sent to the exclusive private school in the East where his father's reputation as star athlete and later war hero were still remembered. The younger George's achievements were dwarfed in the school's memory of his father. Athletically he could not achieve his father's laurels, being smaller and perhaps less strong. His drinking bouts and lack of intellectual gifts held him back as well. His military record was mediocre as compared to his father's as well. [He went AWOL] "
In Fortunate Son, Bush himself explained: "Alcohol began to compete with my energies ... I'd lose focus". Though he once said he couldn't remember a day he hadn't had a drink, he quickly added the giveaway phrase that he didn't believe he was "clinically alcoholic".
Van Wormer notes that "Bush drank heavily for over 20 years until he made the decision to abstain at age 40. About this time he became a 'born again Christian' – going as usual from one extreme to the other." When asked in an interview about his reported cocaine use, he answered reasonably, "I'm not going to talk about what I did 20 to 30 years ago".
One motive driving Dubya could be his need "to prove himself to his father - to achieve what his father failed to do - to finish the job of the Gulf War, to get the 'evildoer' Saddam." Adds van Wormer, "His drive to finish his father's battles is of no small significance, psychologically."
Brain Damage
According to Van Wormer, "scientists can now observe changes that occur in the brain as a result of heavy alcohol and other drug abuse. Some of these changes may be permanent."
Van Wormer characterizes this damage as "barely noticeable but meaningful." Researchers have found that brain chemistry irregularities caused by long bouts of drinking or drug abuse cause "messages in one part of the brain to become stuck there. This leads to maddening repetition of thoughts."
One of these powerful "stuck" thoughts, says van Wormer, is that "President Bush seems unduly focused upon getting revenge on Saddam Hussein ('He tried to kill my Dad'), leading the country and the world into war, accordingly."
Grandiosity is another major trait of former addicts brain-damaged by their addiction. Bush has reversed the successful, five-decade old U.S. policy of containment and no first strikes. Now he says, Americans can attack anyone, anywhere at any time with any weapons of their choosing – including banned cluster bomb munitions, radioactive explosives and nuclear bombs.
AN AGENT OF ARMAGEDDON?
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, a person suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, "Has a grandiose sense of self-importance-exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements."
Sound familiar?
This personality is preoccupied with fantasies of power and being loved. Such a person requires "automatic compliance". He or she is "exploitative" of others, "lacks empathy, is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others." And also "shows arrogant, haughty behavior or attitudes."
"This set of characteristics," says Dr. Wolman, not too reassuringly, "may describe Rumsfeld and Cheney better than Dubya."
For those who, like Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stieglitz, warn that Bush "has been captured by a small group of ideologues,” Dependent Personality Disorder describes someone who "has difficulty making everyday decisions without an excessive amount of advice and reassurance from others." [CBC Feb. 10, 2003]
From a Jungian perspective, writes Dr. Wolman, "Dubya may be identifying with an archetype – something out of Revelations, perhaps, whereby he sees himself as an instrument of God's will to bring about Armageddon." Concurs Katherine van Wormer, "To fight evil, Bush is ready to take on the world, in almost a Biblical sense."
A PRESIDENTIAL PATHOLOGY
Is Bush's belligerence bent on securing another oil fix? Katherine van Wormer believes that a Portland peace protestor's sign, "Drunk on Power" nailed it. Says this quiet Quaker, "The drive for power can be an unquenchable thirst, addictive in itself."
Senator William Fulbright agrees. His bestseller, The Arrogance of Power defined power politics as the pursuit of power. "The causes and consequences of war may have more to do with pathology than with politics," Fulbright wrote.
A key "dry drunk" trait is impatience. Bush, who often describes himself as "a patient man", is not. Just four weeks after inspectors went into Iraq, he called for obliterating Baghdad. "If we wait for threats to fully materialize", Bush pointed out to West Pointers, "we will have waited too long". Translations: It's okay to attack projections of our own fearful imaginings – in case those phantom threats someday become real.
Alan Bisbort's "Dry Drunk - Is Bush Making a Cry for Help?" appeared in American Politics Journal. Bisbort believes that Bush's "incoherence" when speaking away from prepared scripts is a classic sign of addicted brain damage.
For Bisbort, another "dry drunk" tip-off is Dubya's irritability with anyone who dares disagree with him – including Germany's new leader, who insists he is opposing Bush's folly in Iraq as a concerned long-time friend of America. (Schroeder's wife is American.)
Another "Dry drunk" sign says van Wormer, is Dubya's "dangerous obsessing about only one thing (Iraq) to the exclusion of all other things."
Van Wormer's bottom line prognosis: "George W. Bush seems to possess the traits characteristic of addictive persons who still have the thought patterns that accompany substance abuse. The fact that some residual effects from his earlier substance abuse - however slight - might cloud the U.S. President's thinking and judgment is frightening, however, in the context of the current global crisis."
DON'T LAUGH
The Toronto Star recounts how NYU author and media critic Mark Crispin Miller attempted to catalogue GW's verbal gaffes. Some favorites: "The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country." "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
"The future will be better tomorrow."
"He meant it for a laugh," wrote the Star. "Not now."
The author of Boxed In: The Culture of TV believes "Bush is not an imbecile. He's not a puppet. I think that Bush is a sociopathic personality. I think he's incapable of empathy. He has an inordinate sense of his own entitlement, and he's a very skilled manipulator. And in all the snickering about his alleged idiocy, this is what a lot of people miss."
Miller's judgment - that an unelected president might suffer from a clinical personality disorder - is much heavier than being called the global village idiot. "He has no trouble speaking off the cuff when he's speaking punitively, when he's talking about violence, when he's talking about revenge. When he struts and thumps his chest, his syntax and grammar are fine," Miller mentions. "It's only when he leaps into the wild blue yonder of compassion, or idealism, or altruism, that he makes these hilarious mistakes."
Bush even has trouble repeating comforting clichés. "Fool me once, shame ... shame on ... you," Long, uncomfortable pause. "Fool me - can't get fooled again!"
While the world was laughing, Miller saw something darker. "What's revealing about this is that Bush could not say, `Shame on me' to save his life. That's a completely alien idea to him. This is a guy who is absolutely proud of his own inflexibility and rectitude," wrote Miller.
Miller says that Bush saying, "I know how hard it is to put food on your family" is not 'cause he's stupid, but "because he doesn't care about people who can't put food on the table."
When Bush is envisioning "a foreign-handed foreign policy," Miller contends it's because he can't keep his focus on things that mean nothing to him. "When he tries to talk about what this country stands for, or about democracy, he can't do it," Miller observes.
According to Miller, this is why GW is so closely watched by his handlers. "Not because he'll say something stupid," the Star paraphrased, "but because he'll overindulge in the language of violence and punishment at which he excels."
"He's a very angry guy, a hostile guy," Miller says. "He's much like Nixon. So they're very, very careful to choreograph every move he makes. They don't want him anywhere near protestors, because he would lose his temper." Adds this media expert, "It would be a grave mistake to just play him for laughs."
DEPRESSION CAN BE DANGEROUSLY DEPRESSING
Confronted by a man who will not listen to anyone but a few "chickenhawks" urging worldwide war, why shouldn't we feel depressed? Not surprisingly, we do.
Seventy percent of U.S. pastors constantly fight depression. Right now, almost three million Canadians are seriously depressed. (Multiply by four or five for approximate U.S. figures.) We can't blame GW for this. Or the fact that suicide is the 3rd leading cause of death in 15 to 24 year olds. But as the man responsible for perpetrating a worldwide bummer, George isn't helping! [www.tonycooke.org; National Institute of Mental Health]
If it's politically incorrect to ask these questions, how "correct" is it to launch 800 cruise missiles and thousands of one-ton bombs on a captive urban population already suffering the ravages of deliberately imposed hunger and disease?
Choka Cola
Another big clue to Dubya's displays of dementia comes in "photo-ops" showing him slugging back diet Coke with other Aspartame addicts, like Chicago's mayor Richard Daley. Their beet red faces spell either embarrassment over Bush's hijacking of America, or aspartame poisoning. [Chicago Sun Times, Sept. 27, 2002]
According to Carol Guilford, an Aspartame expert and support worker, the President-Select's "pretzel" pratfall was most likely an Aspartame seizure. Bush, like Carter, Al Gore and millions of Americans, is addicted to this constant caffeine hit. Among the FDA's listed 92 symptoms for Aspartame poisoning are: "Difficulty Swallowing", "Fainting" and "Unconsciousness".
Bush's facial lesions, removed as a result of "Too much sun" is another sign of Aspartame poisoning. So was his recent knee surgery: Aspartame depletes synovial fluid lubricating the joints.
Would you drink 6 to 12 cans of formaldehyde a day? It turns out that methanol in Aspartame converts to formaldehyde in the tissues. As Guildford wrote to USN Captain Eleanor Marino, Physician to the President (Feb. 21, 2002): 10% of a 200mg can of diet soda is straight methanol wood alcohol! Methanol is such a gross cumulative poison, the EPA's limit for drinking water is 7.8 mg daily. For serious addicts like Bush, the methanol intake can exceed 32 times the EPA's recommended limit..
Now the punch line: Clinical case studies shows that, among other symptoms, Aspartame ingestion results in "mind fog", feeling "unreal", poor memory, confusion, anxiety, irritability, depression, mania, and slurred speech. [Neurology 1994]
Alcohol-related brain damage is not helped by chugging formaldehyde. James Turner, consumer protection lawyer and author of The Chemical Feast learned that an Oct. 1980 FDA inquiry found that the formaldehyde formed by Aspartame actually eats microscopic holes and triggers tumors in the brain.
That finding banned Aspartame from the food supply. But three months later, Searle CEO Donald Rumsfeld told that pharma giant's sales staff he would get Aspartame approved pronto. The next month, the FDA commissioner was replaced by Dr. Arthur Hayes. In Nov. 1983 the FDA approved aspartame for soft drinks. Under fire for accepting corporate bribes, Hayes went to work for Searle's public-relations firm. Searle lawyer Robert Shapiro coined the name NutraSweet. Monsanto bought Searle. Rumsfeld received $12 million for his help. Shapiro now heads Monsanto.
The same "revolving door" swings wide for arms makers and the oil mafia. The Big Question is: Why hasn't Dick warned George that the diet drinks he's swilling are eating his brain and making him crazy?
Crazy? Am I calling the President-Select of the Excited States crazy? Not me. As a journalist, I can only point out that published medical evidence goes frighteningly far in explaining GW's behavior. For certain, this good ol' boy should go in for a brain scan before being allowed to command more firepower than the next 11 nations combined. If George W. Bush is not crazy - he's sure acting like it. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 2:54:56 PM | Elwood, I really believe that the majority of people are basicly good but then something happens...
I am not sure what you said about Powell since it seemed that Powell was the only one who looked embarasshed when needed to lie about Iraq...
(I did not do my homework about Iraqi thing today :) But have not forgotten it... instead I needed to concentrate to Dollar's slide... --> at least Bush Junior has very bad advisors around him since in the economics the US is really gambling at this moment :( | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 3:26:38 PM | when people sat things like "I believe that the majority are basically good" my I start to think about the many examples in history where the mojority of entire national populations were mobilised by fanatics to commit genocide.
I'm not sure it is realisitc or scientific to make blanket statement that essentialise huge numbers of people as "good" or with any other value statement. People are too complex and culture is constructed in a very fluid and dynamic way. People are not static and unchanging, but responsive to a multitude of variables. We know from crowd psychology that people get swept up in all kinds of crazy and destructive activities - as though in a trance. Similarly, marketing has shown us that people are easily manipulated by media and suggestion - especially if this plays on their irrational fears.
This is exactly what is happening in the US and the UK. Politicians, the media, and spin doctors are making people feel as though their whole way of life is endangered by strange and dangerous "others who might be lurking next door, or their local newagent store. The reality is that the most powerful terrorists are those politicians whose words we read in the newspapers or hear on tv, and among the media elite who make a fortune from the publics fear and of course have strong links with political parties and are owned by people who control other corporations. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 6:55:14 PM | ousu: bush is basically BAD. His brothers are also basically BAD. He snuck out on military duty. His wife acts so goody two shoes. You'd never know she killed her ex-boyfriend in a traffic accident where she ran a red light. Bystanders say she was stinking drunk, yet she never even got a ticket.
His brother's Florida state administration ran a software program on the voter elligibility list that kept hundreds of thousands of (the wrong kind of people: BLACK) from being allowed to vote at the polls, and even then the vote was so close that it had to be recounted and the republican party flew in "demonstrators" to break into the recount room and throw the ballots all over the place to make recounting them impossible.
I know republicans are going to call this "whining" and say Bush won the 2004 election so what difference does it make and so forth; but I say I have no confidence in the American democratic system anymore... no more so than the outcome of the Ukraine election or something like that. In fact, I distrust the whole system now; democrats included.
Why didn't they fight this harder?
Powell was against the idea of invading Iraq and tried to lobby against it, but he stuck with the administration anyway and even lied about WMD's in front of the UN... he's a soldier and follows orders. He's a brilliant man, but he always does what he's told. He's weak.
HE actually wrote a whole section of US military protocol about how, why and under what circumstances US forces should be engaged in foreign operations, and nonetheless sided with the administration when they broke every one of his rules.
He lied about the My Lai massacre also...said there was nothing to it. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/28/2004 7:21:14 PM | thank you for the support friend.
As to Bush, well, that was incredibly interesting and i see the truth in it. I feel the input solidified some things in my mind. Good job bringing it to the table dmt | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 5:38:49 AM | | Does anyone know the name of Bush's ex-psychiatrist or have any insight into his mental functioning and emotional balance? | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 5:57:53 AM | | Sorry have i missed something, does Bush actually have a functioning brain? | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 6:30:10 AM | elwood
you said bush "snuck out on military duty". President Bush served with honor in the military. The whole question of his being absent from drill for 5 months was all started by idiots who have no clue how the military works.
An OER (officer evaluation report) is filled out every month by the commanding officer of that officer. In Air Force National Gaurd you must have an officer under your command for a period of no less than 6 months to make an evaluation. The words Not Observed At This Station is written on an OER during this 5 month period for all officers. These exact words are use by all of the armed forces during these periods. The periods vary depending upon the duty. President Bush was there and serving. You have been fooled. Ask anybody in the military, you can not get an honorable discharge if you were AWOL period.
As far as the election in florida; what you have said is bullsh*t. It is a stupid lie that holds not one shred of truth. John Kerry had 35,000 to 40,000 lawyers that observed all of the election. If there was any possibility to change the vote he would have done it.
You are wondering why the demoncats are not fighting the election. It is because they lost and they know it. They lied, cheated, fooled, collected money from billionaires (george soros), and it didn't work.
"you can fool some people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time" Bob Marley | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 6:31:33 AM | Bush is not mentally ill.
"extreme libiralism" is a mental disorder | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 6:48:25 AM | | Is there a cure for this 'extreme liberalism', what are the signs do you think i should be worried?! | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 6:51:22 AM | really? what psychiatric diagnostic manual did you read that in? I've read them all from cover to cover and they make no mention of 'liberalism' anywhere.
They mention: avoidance of reality, impoverishment of thoughts, delusions of grandeur, stunted development, poor education, bad parenting, the effects of severe punishment as a child, sexual dysfunction, and low intelligence - but not 'liberalism'.
Please let me know what book you are reading and cite it using the Harvasrd referenceing system. I'd love to read one of those old Nazi propoganda books.
Are you sure you aren't looking at one of the old Nazi ones from the 1930's and 40's? | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 7:10:45 AM | no I am talking about extreme liberalism
the people who think that are not with reality. liberalism is not liberalism. the communist, Marxists, isolationist, nazis have stolen the name. they believe that by only taking care of ourselves, singing kum-bi-ya, and doing what they "feel" like doing will solve all of the worlds problems. They also believe in any thing that furthers there cause. Also believe that "separation of church and state" is part of the constitution. They believe that people are not persons, they are part of a culture. They also believe that you can't take care of yourself. Welfare, universal health care, big government programs, ect. All of the worlds problems are created by economics.
Let me give you an example
Senator Bird (democrat) member of the KKK for over 10 years. he is the democratic leader of the senate. read some of his speech and you will see that he is absolutely crazy. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 7:13:35 AM | Agrees with shadow--liberals=sheeple..you lost, -twice. Get over it.quit crying, quit coming up with outrageous speculation and conjecture and all the other "what if's?". The majority of Americans voted their conscience and beliefs and guess what? Bush won. Why do you think that is? I know, I know,,,IT WAS ALL A CONSPIRACY OF THE RELIGIOUS RIGHTWINGERS,,,WAIT NO! IT WAS THE OIL COMPANIES! NO? MICHAEL MOORE IS REALLY A REPUBLICAN-HE MADE THAT MOVIE TO MAKE US LOOK LIKE IDIOTS! HE DELIBERATELY TOOK THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT! NO?! THEN BUSH MUST BE A SPACE ALIEN AND HE WANTS TO SUBJUGATE THE WORLD! WELL THEN IT HAD TO BE THOSE DAMN CANADIANS!! WAIT I KNOW! ....Gimme a minute and I'll have the answer....
Get over it,,better luck next time-if you can find a worthy candidate, that is. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 7:18:26 AM | | Please dont get confused between socialism, communism and liberalism they are differing ideologies, and you dont really get marxist nazi's. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 7:21:33 AM | We don't all live in the US you know 'Jaxtuff',
there are literally hundreds of counties in the world, but many of us have the mistfortune to suffer the result of people in the US being duped into voting for someone who his own psychiatrist thinks is a mad man. | |
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| Is Bush mentally ill?
Posted: 12/29/2004 7:52:15 AM | shadow: Bush served with HONOR?
Well, he did get into flight school with a 20% qualifying score, then he never showed up for his appointed physicals and the person who was supposed to have been his commanding officer said he never showed up.
YOU believe what you want to believe, but here's a list of a LOT of reasons to doubt what you say you believe:
http://www.awolbush.com/
By the way, to my knowledge Gary Trudeau is STILL offering $10,000 to anyone who can prove Dubyah completed his TANG service. Maybe you can make some spending cash?
I doubt it.
... about the 2004 election; I'm really not sure what you say is true. Why is it that there was a precinct in Ohio where there were 18,000 ballots counted and there are only 13,500 registered voters?
... and what good are "35,000 to 40,000" lawyers when there's a computer glitch? and nobody pays attention to the exit polls anyway?
Re 2000 election: here's a page where they tell of all the voter irregularities. Read up, you might learn something:
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm | |
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