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 toonsmith
Joined: 1/19/2005
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It won't be long before the campaign wheels start turning once again.

Will John Edwards be the democratic choice in 2008?


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 WorldCitizen
Joined: 11/4/2005
Msg: 2
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 7:32:34 AM
He looks like he'd be a good choice, but there are several other good ones also. I'd vote Edwards, Dean or Kerry over anyone the republicans have.

If they don't kill each other in the primaries, they've got an excellent chance after the republicans screwed everything up the way they have...

About the only republican I could consider voting for would be Mc Cain, but the only scenario I'd even vote for him would be if he were running against Hillary...
 falldownfunny
Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 3
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 8:35:18 AM
The Democratics won't be able to put up a good fight until shake off the extremest part of the party. They have to develop at real platfrom to run on...contempt, criticism, and flip flopping every 48 hours isn't going to build confidence with the American people. It takes more than running down the other side to win an election. You have to stand for something... and actually say what it is you stand for.
 Blacksheep
Joined: 6/28/2004
Msg: 4
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 8:51:35 AM
Democrats do stand for something, and thats to fix the problems in this country and return to sane and well thought out government, but this cant be separated from criticism when we have to describe the problem, ackowledge mistakes so we can use the recent history to teach a lesson on how to move in the future.

Republicans will call it partisan critisism, but how do you fix something if you dont ackknowledge what the problem/s are in the first place??

Thats the problem of the current misleadership, no thought, no vision, just slogans and spin.
 WorldCitizen
Joined: 11/4/2005
Msg: 5
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 9:03:45 AM
the problem with the democratic party is the problem of any citizenry that isn't rich. The rich have a common agenda: that which makes them richer.

The not rich have many other interests, many which may conflict with each other; but the main coallating issue is not to be enslaved or made poor by the upper classes.

For that reason, many have compared the democratic party to a firing squad standing in a circle, but consider the alternative: would you rather have things go back to the way they were before Roosevelt got into office?

That's what Bush and the republicans agenda is...

In afew years, we're going to see social security VANISH. There will be no public retirement system, no medicare, no social safety nets.

Why?

Because the federal government is using it to give loans to the rich people so they can buy up the whole economy. They are taking so much money out of social security now to fund these 'tax cuts' that the social security system has no choice but to lower benefits because there is not sufficient cash flow to pay out.

Someday soon, some president will sign some big "forgiveness' bill which liquidates the whole debt of the federal government to the social security system. We will have the choice of either doing that or having the federal government default on it's debt to it. There will be no other choice.

then you'll see what the rest of us were saying all along...
 falldownfunny
Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 6
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 9:11:58 AM
Yes...they do stand for "something"...saying what "something" is makes it hard to win an election nationally. Socialism, high taxes, pessimism, and trying to turn America into Europe just doesn't cut it with the average Joe or Josephine...if it did...the Democrats wouldn't be in the shape they're in.
 Blacksheep
Joined: 6/28/2004
Msg: 7
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 9:24:17 AM
Pahleeeeze, where did you get that from, a GOP fundraising letter??

At the rate the current knuckle-heads in the White House are inploding all the Dem's have to do is stand back and watch the collapse.

I find it hard to see how the Dems, Libertarians, Green, Indy, or anyone else could possibly do anywhere close to as bad as the current chumps in power.

I dont care what you guys claim, Under Clinton we were a helluva lot better off than we are now!

Just cause Bush and em call themselves Conservatives doesnt mean they are, and They Hijacked the Republican party to totally disgrace it in every way imaginable. and I feel for the Real Conservatives like McCain who have to deal with the stigma now placed on their party.
 falldownfunny
Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 8
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 9:38:25 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if I turned out not to be a Republican? I haven't said one word about being one. I can read posts from the right and the left they are all basically the same. Chumps, knuckleheads, running down the other side...point proven!
 Blacksheep
Joined: 6/28/2004
Msg: 9
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 9:56:52 AM
No point is not proven, the problem has to be described, understood and then fixed, but the current administration is doing little to fix anything.

If it seems like the left is running down the other side its merely addressing the problems and because the problems involve the dicisions of the right its only logical that the right will get mentioned. but what the right does is use fear, mis-direction, spin, and insults against the left to hide the fact that they themselves are either completely incompetant, or worse purposefully steering the ship into the rocks!

Forgive the Left if they get tired of that bullshit and lash back, it may not be the correct thing to do but all this name calling from the right to divert the publics attention that the problems are getting worse not better is getting tired fast
 falldownfunny
Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 10
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 10:18:26 AM
Ohhhh...I get it. The right is the only side that uses fear, mis-direction, spin and insults. Well those incompetant, sterring in the rocks on purpose meanies. Thanks for the help...I'll finailly get that good nights sleep.
 Blacksheep
Joined: 6/28/2004
Msg: 11
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 10:27:30 AM
I call it from my side, you call it from yours. but I dont see the Dems in the captains chair at the moment so I derive that the Reps are slightly, and just slightly more to blame.

Its not illegal to hand you the gun if you ask for it, but if you kill someone its all on you buddy.
 dmotz39
Joined: 3/19/2005
Msg: 12
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 10:27:42 AM
Yo Blacksheep.....

"Thats the problem of the current misleadership, no thought, no vision, just slogans and spin"

The term spin originated under ol slick......the greatest spinner of all! (had to do it)!
Now...I think Edwards would be a good choice for the Dems....Mcain for the Repubs.....
Dean has not got a chance....Hillary would never get in....And if she did....would she live long enough to fulfill her term? Now.....do not bash me on this people....just a question....do you think that she would be safe? Or any woman for that matter? Is this country ready for a woman pres? I know that Hillary could do the job...I would disagree with most of what she would do...But I would not want her hurt. We have to think about this outside the box.....Every president has has assination attempts.....but would they increase for Hillary?
This also brings us to Colin Powell......In my honest opinion this is one of the greatest men in our country...He stood up to Bush on principle! I would love to see Colin as our president!
But are the people ready for a black pres?
I think they would go for a woman before a black man.....and they would be wrong in this case!
 Blacksheep
Joined: 6/28/2004
Msg: 13
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 10:38:49 AM
D, I agree... Hillary can do the job, and most likely will be hated on perhaps even more partisanly than Bush jr. And she will have to do things that I'm sure would bring her the worse kind of reply from the right such as raise taxes to balance the budget and cut down on corporate givaways (which may cause her to have to wear a BP vest).

But at the end of the day it will be good for the country and economy in the long run.
In my opinion she may even be the one to break down the all white male presidential club and soften the American public to the possibility of a Black woman or man for Pres.
 dmotz39
Joined: 3/19/2005
Msg: 14
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 10:58:33 AM
Agreed Blacksheep!
It is a shame that this country has the all white male Presidency.
A woman can do the job just as well as any man. I just do not think Hillary is that woman..If any woman had a legit shot it was Geraldene Ferroro(misspelled) Her only problem was the idiot she ran with! Mondale was a joke.
Geraldene would have been a good pres.
Back to Powell......We need to start looking at the person.....not the skin.....He would be awesome! Talk about brining both sides togather.........if anyone could.it would be him.
 Blacksheep
Joined: 6/28/2004
Msg: 15
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 1:48:10 PM
Unfortunately D, I think Powell would have to sport Bombsquad suits and ride in an Abrams tank to avoid all the assasination attempts from the racists among us.

I figured Hillary would be the perfect sacraficial lamb (not literally) but politically to do whats necessary to fix the country + economy, and all the while be cursed and defiled for her methods of doing it. (taxes, spending cuts) At the same time she can soften up the electorate and pave the way for Powell to build on a better economy and this countries position on the world stage.

Out of all the candidates on both sides of the Isle, Hillary and her Husband are the only candidates who have had experience in the White House in the same scenario of coming in with a war going on + bad economy and being able to fix it in the short term.
 CountIbli
Joined: 6/1/2005
Msg: 16
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 8:24:27 PM
I see no reason to believe that John Edwards would be a good president. He greatly embarassed himself in the Cheney/Edwards debate. He couldn't vocalize anything remotely resembling a plan for Iraq, terrorism, or America. What does he actually bring to the table?
 CountIbli
Joined: 6/1/2005
Msg: 17
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 8:26:20 PM
The Dems will only win if they put forward a Southern Democrat, preferably a conservative.
 Tails76
Joined: 11/6/2005
Msg: 18
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 9:38:57 PM
Social Security issue

Both parties have robbed social security funds for decades. Social security checks will be faithfully handed out month after month like they have been since it was birthed. The fedgov has the ability to grow money on trees (by printing more). That is how we've managed to outspend our revenue 45 out of the past 50 years.

I think Social Security is in no danger, the American dollar is what is being threatened.

Furthermore, if we are talking about plans to privatize social security is the reason social security is in danger, I say let it happen. Proposistions for privatizing social security at this point still holds the government to honor people currently recieving and gives younger Americans the option of putting part of their SS deduction in investments. It seems unbecomming of a party who values our "right to choose" or "freedom of choice".

Medicare

Relating to the costs of healthcare, it is my understanding that John Edwards has made a living off of sueing professionals in the healthcare business. So remember that when he talks about our healthcare related issues.
 popeye58tim
Joined: 10/30/2005
Msg: 19
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/15/2005 11:19:42 PM
I think John"Ambulance Chaser"Edwards would be a great President...

He could bring those nasty terrorists to there knees by suing them for wrongfull death
But knowing him,he would be on the wrong side defending them
 rainpanda
Joined: 10/2/2005
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John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/16/2005 12:53:02 AM
I hope not.

~ Panda
 Polly_G
Joined: 11/21/2005
Msg: 21
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/16/2005 12:56:38 AM
Jon Stewart for President!!!!

Ok...that being said I will go back to my corner of Canada
 needleinahaystack
Joined: 11/27/2005
Msg: 22
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/16/2005 9:25:37 AM
Hillary 2008 ..... let her get caught with Monica...

hmmm Penthouse will be calling......

Bush will be out, thank god... will be a while before the Repub's get in again i think.

But, what State will be the SWING state in 2008, since Bush will not be running.

It might actually be the first honestly won election in 8 yrs.

Edwards didnt back Kerry enough to deserve the head job. Again, where is Monica.

Not that our Canadian Leaders are much better. Just get BUSH out.... and bring the troops home, bless them for the job they are doing.

p.s.
if anyone who invests in the U.S. and is granted citizenship because of, and thus is able to vote, and possibly run for an elected position, why not put O bin L on there as an independent, with all the land that his family owns in the US, and the money they have donated through channels to the Bush Fund, let him run for Pres. WIll be easier to catch then.
 Me Thinks
Joined: 12/14/2005
Msg: 23
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/16/2005 9:50:57 AM
He made his fortune on frivolous lawsuits against doctors? And the democrats picked him as their hero? Sounds dumb. Now he is a hero, taking care of his wife's cancer, so everyone will admire this youngster. He is not qualified to be anything, just a yuppie lawyer.
 bellavita
Joined: 10/10/2005
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John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/16/2005 11:54:30 AM
Democrats have to run a Southern candidate- but one that is truly progressive, not a Republican by another name or a Former first lady who can't decide where she stands on absolutely anything.


I like Mark Warner. Intelligent, semi-high profile, southern (Already some comparisons to Clinton), Virginia was also called the "#1 managed state" by the Government performance project- Mark Warner has made lots of progress in Virginia- including achieving As in every catagory of the performance project catagories- more than any other state.

Warner's Government and tax reform policies have earned him respect, and his PASS (Partnership for Achieving Successful Schools) program has made the quality of education in Virginia among the highest of the states- He also has moderate crossover appeal, his 'SECURE VIRGINIA' program is a responsible and neccesary plan for natural disasters, terrorist attacks- it's provisions include extra funding in the budget for law enforcement, emergency response teams and housing/food aid in case of disaster.


We have three years to get his name in the news- Dems who are already propping up Hilary because she's the only public figure are closed minded. Polls with her leading only represent her buzz and not her actual potential to be elected.



xo

-bella
 twobits45
Joined: 12/4/2005
Msg: 25
John Edwards for President in 2008?
Posted: 12/16/2005 6:15:51 PM

Will John Edwards be the democratic choice in 2008?


Not if the Democrats want to win this time.
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