| How is eternal life achieved for the Christian?
Posted: 1/1/2006 7:04:37 PM | This is my point of view on the topic matter. Many years of searching the Scriptures, receiving wisdom and gaining insight of understanding have gone into my thoughts. What think ye?
I believe in The Holy Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired Word of God, without error in the original writings, the complete revelation of His Will for the salvation of men, and the only absolute authority for all Christian belief and practice. I believe in one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect and eternally existing in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. He sovereignly rules while bringing all things to their proper end according to His omniscient plan. I believe that Jesus Christ is true God and true Man, having been conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He died on the cross as a perfect sacrifice for our sins, conquered Death and Hell and He rose bodily from the grave, later ascending triumphantly into Heaven where He intercedes for us in God's presence. The Salvation of man is wholly a work of God's free grace and is not the work, in whole or in part, of human works or goodness or religious ceremony. God imputes His righteousness to those who put their faith in Christ Jesus alone for their salvation, and thereby justifies them in His sight. The reward of all who are born again of the Spirit is the assurance of their salvation from the very moment in which they trust Christ Jesus as their Lord and Savior. This assurance is not based upon any kind of human merit, but is produced by the witness of the Holy Spirit, who confirms in the believer the testimony of God in His written Word. The Holy Spirit has come into the world to reveal and glorify Christ Jesus and to apply the saving work of Christ Jesus to men. He convicts and draws sinners to Christ Jesus, imparts new life to them, continually indwells them from the moment of spiritual birth and seals them until the day of redemption. His fullness, power and control are evident in the believer's life by faith. Every believer is called by the power of the endwelling Spirit that he will not fulfill the lust of the flesh, but will bear fruit to the glory of God. Christ Jesus is the Head of the Church, His Body, which is composed of all men and women, living and dead, who have been joined to Him through saving Faith. God admonishes His people to assemble together regularly for worship, for participation in ordinances, for edification through the Scriptures and for mutual encouragement. When the believer physically dies, the soul imediately enters into eternal conscious fellowship with the Lord and awaits the resurrection of his body to everlasting glory and blessing. When the unbeliever physically dies, the soul imediately enters into eternal conscious separation from the Lord and awaits the resurrection of his body to everlasting judgment and condemnation. I believe that man, originally created perfect in God's image, fell into sin in Adam, and consequently we are all by nature under God's wrath and subject to both sin and death if left to our own disposition and design. I believe that the substitutionary death of Christ Jesus and His resurrection provide the only basis for justification and salvation for all who believe, and only those who receive Him by faith and through God's grace are truly born of the Holy Spirit and thus become forever "The Children Of God". I believe that Water Baptism(immersion) and The Lords Supper are ordinances to be observed by each Christian until Christ Jesus' return. These are symbolic to each believer with Christ Jesus in His death, burial and resurrection and of the communion of believers with God in the remembrance of Christ Jesus' death. Neither of these ordinances is a means of salvation. Christ Jesus is returning to the earth, personally, visibly and bodily to bring earthly history to its close and to bring to a completion the eternal plan of God. The Lord Christ Jesus commanded all believers to proclaim the Gospel throughout the world and to disciple men of every nation. The fulfillment of that Great Commission requires that all worldly and personal ambitions be subordinate to a total commitment to Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior.
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| How is eternal life achieved for the Christian?
Posted: 1/2/2006 6:31:14 PM | I pretty much agree with all of that. there were a couple things where I think a little differently though.
I have never been water baptized. the bible tells us that we must be baptized in order to have eternal life. However, I dont think water baptism is completely necessary. I mean I'm sure it's a great thing to do, but that is only 1 of 3 forms of Baptism. There is also baptism by fire and baptism through the spirit. I've been baptized through the spirit.
Another thing I think differently on is the returning of Christ. He will come back to earth for us again, but not as a person. The bible says that He will come down as the Lamb and the Lion. He's already come down as the lamb, Jesus Christ. Satan, However, will appear on earth as a Human Being, claiming to be God, and deceiving millions of people to follow him. But that's after God arrives and lifts the true Christians up into heaven. Revelations talks about all that. | |
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| How is eternal life achieved for the Christian?
Posted: 1/2/2006 8:09:31 PM | Xelsorsior, I’d say the Spirit has definitely been giving you wisdom in your studies of the scriptures!
Livinthedream—You are correct in saying that there is more than one form of baptism. However, the Bible does not say that we must be baptized in order to be saved. Water baptism is not a requirement for salvation, but it IS a command of God. It should be one of our first acts of obedience after becoming a believer. | |
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| How is eternal life achieved for the Christian?
Posted: 1/2/2006 9:03:36 PM |
Another thing I think differently on is the returning of Christ. He will come back to earth for us again, but not as a person. The bible says that He will come down as the Lamb and the Lion. He's already come down as the lamb, Jesus Christ. Satan, However, will appear on earth as a Human Being, claiming to be God, and deceiving millions of people to follow him. But that's after God arrives and lifts the true Christians up into heaven. Revelations talks about all that.
I have never heard that interpretation before. 1) When Jesus walked the earth as a human He was referred to as a lamb. Why would he be a real lamb when He returns? The reference was symbolic to the meekness of the "lamb." (led to slaughter). Jesus was the son of God in human form and had to take that form to be a sacrifice for mankind, what sense would be for Him to come back as an animal? 2) I dont recollect any scripture referring to Satan as a human Being, so why would he come back as human and not Jesus? Actually, I don't even recollect anything to suggest Satan will make any visit to earth, aside from what he has already done. 3) The "lifting" is often referred to as "rapture" and there's debate as to whether it is post-trib or pre-trib. I can see evidence for both. 4)Revelations is loaded with symbolism, as is a lot of prophecy, but if part of it is literal than it all has to be and if it is all literal then we will be seeing beasts and animals ravaging the earth and taking control of countries. | |
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| How is eternal life achieved for the Christian?
Posted: 1/2/2006 9:31:54 PM | What a person must do is ADMIT that they ARE a sinner and that they NEED forgiveness of their sins and then they turn toi God and Jesus christ and accept what Jesus has done for them on the cross of Calvary and understand the significants of that and ask for forgivness and admitt and confess that they are sinners and that they repent from their sins and receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour and they must BELIEVE FULLY that Christ died for our sins and that without Him we have NO CHANCE on getting to heaven. We must understand our spiritual state and understand that the penalty for sin is judgment and they need to get into a relationship and commitment with Jesus Christ and believe everything that HE said He is, and that He did, and that He rose again and our sins were washed away by our receiving Him into our lives.
They must mean it whole heartedly and confess this with their mouth and believe it totally. | |
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| How is eternal life achieved for the Christian?
Posted: 1/3/2006 1:41:26 AM | | In my opinion the seeikng of eternal life is a sin. I feel that we have to give up ourselves in order to be with God and that means wanting nothing for ourselves. It is putting total trust in God and instead of seeking eternall life we shoud give our life up. | |
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| How is eternal life achieved for the Christian?
Posted: 1/3/2006 11:43:58 AM |
the Bible does not say that we must be baptized in order to be saved. Water baptism is not a requirement for salvation,
Mark 16:16
6 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
John 3:3
3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
John 3:5
5 Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God
Matt 3:11-12
He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 1
God doesn't differentiate between Baptisms, Baptism in Jesus, water, Spirit and fire all one thing.
have a nice baptised day,
Jimmy,
and if baptised in the Holy Spirit speak in tongues | |
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| How is eternal life achieved for the Christian?
Posted: 1/3/2006 12:00:28 PM | Xelsorsior, that was beautifully said. I am in 100% agreement with you. Amen, brother.
ray, I see what you are saying. To live is Christ, to die is gain. But I think seeking eternal life in perfection with God (praising Him for all of eternity) is quite different than to seek eternal life in this earth and never die (ie. the "fountain of youth", etc.). | |
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| How is eternal life achieved for the Christian?
Posted: 6/28/2006 8:54:22 PM | | One belief I differ about is that Jesus did not come here to die for us.Him dying won't save us.He was sent here by God to teach us his word.After the fall of Adam the were kicked out of the Garden of Eden and lost their light and put in the darkness.This is the time they became humans.When Adam cried to God about being put in the darkness God pitied him and told him he would provide light for him and his seed by creating the Sun and he would have light and call it day.At night the sun would set and become dark for a certain amount of time so he could sleep and work the land which he didn't have to do in the Garden of Eden.We all have to learn to receive the Light from the Sun.He promised eventually he would come down to earth through his seed and teach him and his seed to get back the Light Adam lost with his fall.Jesus was one of the Teachers that came here to give us the knowledge.Jesus was God and he came here more than once.Satan is the one who prevents us all from believing in God.Each time God comes here as a human being to teach us about the light Satan stops a lot of us from believing in him.Eventually Satan will lose his power because a lot of us will have enough light by believing God and our light will drown out his darkness.We need to learn to use the sun to strenghten our spirits through perminent counciousness.If we accomplish this we will ascend to God.If we don't we will lose our conciousness like a drop of water in the ocean.It is up to us to find the real truth about the light.Find the Great Teachers who will teach us this.The truth will be given to us only orally.The true scripture only tell us how to find these teachers.The truth has never been written down.Jesus told the truth to his disciples that were ready at the time.There is a place in the scripters where Jesus took some of his disciple aside and talked to them.The other disciples were ypset with him and asked him why he only talked to some of them.He told them he would do the same with them when they were ready. | |
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