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Posted: 1/2/2006 9:41:11 AM | Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Firebrand Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has been named "Person of the Year for 2005" in an online poll by the Black Entertainment Television network, beating out Oprah Winfrey, Sen. Barack Obama and BET founder Robert L. Johnson.
"An overwhelming percentage of our users agreed that Minister Farrakhan made the most positive impact on the black community over the past year," BET.com vice president Retha Hill told FinalCall.com, Farrakhan's own web site.
The BET.com VP credited Farrakhan's Millions More March last October with mobilizing "hundreds of thousands of blacks around the issues of atonement and empowerment, and to convince the masses of our people that we must be the primary catalysts and engines for positive change in our communities."
During his Millions More March address, Farrakhan urged African-Americans to bring a class action suit for "criminal neglect" against the U.S. on behalf of Hurricane Katrina victims in New Orleans and demanded that America "acknowledge her wickedness to the indigenous peoples of this hemisphere."
For weeks before the march, the controversial minister touted a theory that the Bush administration had blown up the levees in New Orleans. Farrakhan said he came to that conclusion after a private meeting with Mayor Ray Nagin, who told him there was a 25-foot crater beneath the levees.
Farrakhan told BET.com that he was "greatly honored and extremely humbled" to be chosen as their 2005 Person of the Year.
"I accept this great honor as encouragement to work as hard as I can in the twilight years of my life to facilitate the success of this ongoing struggle,” he added.
How is it that people who cry racism the loudest reward the biggest racist on the face of the earth? Is anyone else not offended by this? Or do you think this was a proper award for this so called "Black Leader"? | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/2/2006 9:51:34 AM | If you've been paying attention, you'll note that a "Person of the Year" award does NOT always have a direct relationship to whether said person made a positive or negative contribution to society. For instance, TIME magazine has had, as its Person of the Year, such luminairies as Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Ayatullah Khomeini, G.W. Bush, Charles de Gaulle, etc.
So, as can be seen, being named Person of the Year does not automatically imply a positive connotation. | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/2/2006 10:33:42 AM | Happy New Year Guys!
Littlewin, I don't think offended is the right word. I am however extremely concerned. From LA in 92 to Paris in 2005 the free world knows its inner cities are powder kegs on short fuses. As much as I hate the messenger there are serious problems in our society. We have come far, but it seems there is always so much farther to go. The Bush Administration's Response to Hurricane Katrina disgusted far more than just this American.
Farahkan is a joke in my humble opinion. Yet we set his stage for him. After perhaps the "blackest" President throught the 90s blacks again feel disenfranchised in America. It's natural for any of us to willingly give up that which we've all too recently acquired.
I suggest the best way to shut up Farahkan is to actually address some of the concerns that have empowered him. IMHO, as George Bush and****Cheney are divisive for America Farahkan and Jesse Jackson are divisive for Black America. Ridicule didn't win the last election, on the flip side it is certainly not going to win the hearts and minds of less fortunate Americans. | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/2/2006 11:08:55 AM | I think black people keeping looking for some great leader to pull them collectively out of the problems of poverty. Since people have been telling them that for so long, they tend to believe it. Probably because the US mainstream society has lied to them so many times and for so long, they believe the only people they can trust are their own. Unfortunately, the only way people are going to get up in the world is through individual effort. Civil rights is a good struggle but it will only get your foot in the door. It won't lift you up by itself. It takes individual effort to do that.
People are looking for Moses or something and there ARE many people in the black community trying to appear as such... just like Pat Robertson in the White Community or Sun Myung Moon in the Asian...
The more desperate people are the more they buy into this stuff. The media loves promoting it because it sells. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 8:14:31 PM | I don't really think it's racism as much as it is self-promotion...
Nobody asks "What do these guys who call themselves our 'leaders' actually do except stand in front of people and encourage them to donate... to some fund they get paid out of...?"
As long as people continue to be stupid enough to think of the world in "them vs. us" terms, there will be people like Farrakhan, Dubyah, and Pat Robertson to sheer the sheep... | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 11:30:36 PM | Farrakhan is a true hero and a fearless Islamic Warrior!
Whites are just scared cuz he speaks the truth with integrity... unlike their leaders.
Farrakhann sees through the hypocrisy of the so-called "benefits" and "handouts" that whitey uses to keep the brothas down. He understands the system and is saying "the game is up!"
The Nation of Islam is an unstoppable force cuz Allah is on the side of right, not white! | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 7:31:30 AM | We all have this "Great Man" theme in our cultures about how some ONE GUY did something or is doing something... which is really more about "being there" than actually performing the great deeds people give them credit for... This goes all the way back to the roots of civilization and is kind of like religion when people thought kings used to make rain and sunlight... and sometimes even held them accountable when they didn't. It's a great mythology kind of like star wars with the immersion scenes and so forth...
The myths of Reagan winning the cold war, Lincoln winning the Civil War, MLK winning the civil rights war and Hitler taking over Germany are very hugely exagerrated mythologies... kinda like Gilgamesh or Hercules in ancient ones. They could have done nothing if not for those around them. They were in the right place at the right time for "greatness".
Kinda like Superman... | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/3/2006 8:52:09 AM |
The myths of Reagan winning the cold war, Lincoln winning the Civil War, MLK winning the civil rights war and Hitler taking over Germany are very hugely exagerrated mythologies... kinda like Gilgamesh or Hercules in ancient ones. They could have done nothing if not for those around them. They were in the right place at the right time for "greatness".
This is the point where you credibility ends do you even read what you just wrote or even believe this drivel. OK here it is
#1 Hitler did take over Germany or how else did he become dictator? He won the hearts and minds of the people this is how he did it.
#2 Lincoln won the Civil war and united the country had he been a democrat you might have actually believed this your liberal bias and desire to rewrite history has either clouded your memory or poisoned it. more closer to the point your socialistic views are what are spewing your lies.
#3 MLK united people of all races and paved the way to racial equality. How can you dispute this it happened in your life time? Again your socialistic attempt to rewrite history?
#3 Ronald Wilson Reagen won the cold war by out spending the Russian government in the arms build up. Your absurd claim the chernobyl was the reason for the collapse is insane that would be like saying the bombings on 911 killed the US. Coupled with a failing government ( who's ideas you apparently embrace)the premise of out spending them is the most likely scenario they simply could not keep up. And they valued their government more than their people.
I hope everyone reads your post It will expose the socialistic agenda LIBERALISM shovels out. | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/3/2006 9:19:52 AM |
"I hope everyone reads your post It will expose the socialistic agenda LIBERALISM shovels out."
How so? Please clarify. (and be specific, please!) | |
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| Louis Farrakhan Named 'Person of the Year'
Posted: 1/3/2006 10:11:09 AM |
This is the point where you credibility ends do you even read what you just wrote or even believe this drivel. OK here it is
#1 Hitler did take over Germany or how else did he become dictator? He won the hearts and minds of the people this is how he did it.
Hitler is just one guy... just one little guy. Many say he was even adopted. He didn't come from any higher class of people. He was brought to prominence through the the members of the Nazi party, who were financed by americans because the americans didn't want the communists from taking over germany.
HE wasn't the guy who lit the fuse to start the fire that burned down the reichstag, trapping all of germany's parliament and making it possible for his party to take over German politics because they were the only ones left. He was given the resources to do what he did by people outside the country. He only became leader of germany because it was advantagious for others to make him that. He could not have done it himself.
#2 Lincoln won the Civil war and united the country had he been a democrat you might have actually believed this your liberal bias and desire to rewrite history has either clouded your memory or poisoned it. more closer to the point your socialistic views are what are spewing your lies.
Lincoln couldn't have moved against the south to keep it as part of the Union without the approval of congress and the support of the Northern States. The whole Union Army was made up of the militias of different states at that time. The presidency during Lincoln's time had nowhere near as much power as it has now. Neither did the federal government.
#3 MLK united people of all races and paved the way to racial equality. How can you dispute this it happened in your life time? Again your socialistic attempt to rewrite history?
did he ever go out and protest without anyone else?.... as Rosa Parks did?
No..
He jumped on Rosa's bandwagon after SHE started the ball rolling by doing what she did. MLK came down from Boston to join and if it hadn't been for others who were willing to go along and thought the time was right THEN to do what they did, MLK would have been just another dead protestor.
#3 Ronald Wilson Reagen won the cold war by out spending the Russian government in the arms build up. Your absurd claim the chernobyl was the reason for the collapse is insane that would be like saying the bombings on 911 killed the US. Coupled with a failing government ( who's ideas you apparently embrace)the premise of out spending them is the most likely scenario they simply could not keep up. And they valued their government more than their people.
the US ALWAYS outspent the Soviets. Tell me or show me a time when we didn't?
So why is it that when the Soviets finally fell apart as everyone predicted they would long before Reagan got into office... they were losing a war that started before he came in, they had a nuclear accident that contaminated half their food supply, young men weren't showing up for the draft, officers were being sold to mujahadeen by the soldiers they commanded; the Poles defied Russian rule with a national strike, Chechnya and Azerbaijan started rebelling, that Reagan gets credit for this?
Do you know that the Berlin wall was already in the process of being torn down when he made his famous (among republicans anyway) speech where he said "Tear down this wall!"?
I hope everyone reads your post It will expose the socialistic agenda LIBERALISM shovels out.
I hope so too, Littletwin... I hope so too. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:21:32 AM | Whites in America are the ones that have caused the problems that he has to address to begin with. Until whites in America take responsibility for the economic oppression faced by minorities in this country, blacks will continue to support strong men like Farrakhan!  | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:24:33 AM |
For weeks before the march, the controversial minister touted a theory that the Bush administration had blown up the levees in New Orleans.
I think it was Nagin and Farrakhan that blew up the leeves. To make it look like the Bush administration did it. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:31:01 AM | Whites in America are the ones that have caused the problems that he has to address to begin with. Until whites in America take responsibility for the economic oppression faced by minorities in this country, blacks will continue to support strong men like Farrakhan!"
sparda....how can you refer to Farrakhan as a strong man if your still suffering the oppression you claim are....after all these years I would think you would regard him as a failure and look for a better leader..... | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:33:16 AM |
Whites in America are the ones that have caused the problems that he has to address to begin with. Until whites in America take responsibility for the economic oppression faced by minorities in this country, blacks will continue to support strong men like Farrakhan!
Sparda... what I'm saying is that until any person becomes self-reliant, they can't depend on someone like Farrakhan to help them unless they're strong enough where they could help themselves anyway.
There are alot of good moral men who are part of Farrakhan's support system. They work real jobs, educate themselves and try to set a high standard for themselves and their communities to live up to.
Until people realize that it's up to THEMSELVES to do this, only others who do will climb out of poverty. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:37:54 AM | "what I'm saying is that until any person becomes self-reliant, they can't depend on someone like Farrakhan to help them unless they're strong enough where they could help themselves anyway."
what Farrakhan depends on are people who depend on Farrakhan....Farrakhan uses them and without them Farakhan is a nobody | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:39:53 AM |
what Farrakhan depends on are people who depend on Farrakhan....Farrakhan uses them and without them Farakhan is a nobody
That's true CM, but let's not single him out as if he were the only one who's like that. There are MANY others who do exactly the same thing and make a very good living at it... from all cultures around the world...
That's what I was getting at with my "great man theory" post... | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:47:03 AM |
How is it that people who cry racism the loudest reward the biggest racist on the face of the earth? Is anyone else not offended by this? Or do you think this was a proper award for this so called "Black Leader"?
Considering that it was a poll conducted by a media outlet that is targeted at the african-american public, why does it matter to you who they chose as their man of the year. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:52:44 AM | Farrakhan is a true hero and a fearless Islamic Warrior!
Whites are just scared cuz he speaks the truth with integrity... unlike their leaders.
Farrakhann sees through the hypocrisy of the so-called "benefits" and "handouts" that whitey uses to keep the brothas down. He understands the system and is saying "the game is up!"
The Nation of Islam is an unstoppable force cuz Allah is on the side of right, not white!
"Whitey" is racial slur and this is clearing showing your ignorance and lack or respect to races other then your own (hypocrite). I hope the Moderators remove this slur, as it is unacceptable as any other racial slur. Now if this was meant as joke us Caucasian are not laughing. I can see Martin Luther King is turning over in his grave after this post. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:54:55 AM | Considering that it was a poll conducted by a media outlet that is targeted at the african-american public, why does it matter to you who they chose as their man of the year.
I agree. It's really nobody business unless your Africian American. I mean it's they club. Just like it's no body's business who the KKK decides to vote for the their man of the year. Or the Muslim Americans or the Hispanic Americans. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:55:44 AM |
I agree. It's really nobody business unless your Africian American. I mean it's they club. Just like it's no body's business who the KKK decides to vote for the their man of the year.
So who did you vote for? | |
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