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Posted: 1/2/2006 6:22:09 PM | | I noticed on a forum on his site two days ago an american person stating that the original people of sccotland and of america were cursed people who had been expelled from Isreal. I was a bit shocked to hear this and it appeared to be racist. Can anyone shed light on this for me. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 6:25:56 PM | I don't look at that statement as racist, more someones idea of biblical. Or their take on the scripture.
I must have missed that post, what thread was it on? | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 6:35:24 PM | | I didn't see the thread either but I have read theories that the people of Scotland and of America originated from the tribes of Israel (ie lost tribes), hence their expulsion from the land of "Israel" (not the tribe of Judah) at that time. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 6:42:28 PM | | If one accepts the Bibles theory of creation, then we all originated from one place. So all people would be part of the tribes of Israel wouldn't they? | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 6:43:06 PM | What?? Racist ideas and 'theories' stemming from the Bible??!! Naaahh,- You must be kidding! *sarcastic sneer*
EDIT: I agree, seriousfunnylady. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 6:57:47 PM | "If one accepts the Bibles theory of creation, then we all originated from one place. So all people would be part of the tribes of Isreal wouldn't they?"
The tribes of Israel were formed by clans much later then the creation. Besides, I'm not the one who posited the theory nor the original post. I was just stating that this theory is perhaps where the "racist" post was coming from. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 6:58:50 PM | | I do believe in God but I don't believe that God would curse a people. I think it stems from noah but it confuses me. I am not attacking the person who said it but such things can lead to bad feeling. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:04:32 PM | | I wouldnt view that as racist....as others stated...statement/opinion. To answer your thread title tho: No I do NOT tolerate racism. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:06:15 PM | | Israel didn't exist in the time of Noah. I'm confused about what point you are trying to make and what it has to do with racism? | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:14:04 PM | | The main part of my question is. If God brought on the flood then why so sone after would he have been contented with expulsion. It doesn't make sense to me and I do not believe that it is true. I do believe that it is racism started by someone and not God. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:17:15 PM | | If it was not Isreal then where were my descendants expeled from. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:44:59 PM | Sorry ray660 ... call me thick but I still don't have a clue what you are talking about!
Noah, flood, cursed, explusion ... who was expelled, why were they cursed, why were they expelled and why do you think this expulsion was an act of racism? Can you provide some framework to your inquiry? | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:45:34 PM | Ok, confused now....are you saying that God was racist to expel people?
Or that the statement from the Thread was racist? | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:47:10 PM | | Well it all relates to that thread I saw just two days ago. Someone must recal it. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:49:38 PM | I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
People have all kinds of beliefs and can usually find some kind of documentation to defend it.
I don't tolerate racism, yet I didn't see this thread, or the comment made on a thread so I really can't say. Depends on who the poster was too. There are some that come just to get a flame war going. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:50:14 PM | | I do not believe that God would expel a people therefore God is not racist. It is whoever said that God expels a people that is a racist. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:53:18 PM | psssst Ray, I hate to burst you bubble but God expelled Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden.
The didnt' he expel Cain? after slaying Abel? Now those are just two off the top of my head.
Not to mention he flooded the Earth and killed all the people other then Noah and his family.
bet they would have rather been expelled. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 7:59:03 PM | | I found the original thread. It is on "bible fact or fiction" and was posted on 24/12/05. Not that it matters who posted it. I do think hat this is avery serious point and if misunderstood then it could be seen as racist. Therefore I am asking for advice on the subject. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 8:02:07 PM | | The expelling of adam and eve and of cain was an act against persons not an act against a people. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 8:02:28 PM | ^^^
Isn't that quite strange
Yet that was the Old Testament God
His Son had much more Humanitarian Beliefs
Now I wonder why they are considered "Human"itarian
Or could it be that the Gods are actually really still full of Fire and Brimstone etc etc etc
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Posted: 1/2/2006 8:14:40 PM | | God was never full of fire and brimstone. He just got a bad press. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 8:24:33 PM | I went and looked at the post, all I can say is there are certain posters that I personally just take with a grain of salt.
As for God expelling people, let me quote from the bible for you.
Johsua chapter 24
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I brought you into the land of the Amorites who lived east of the Jordan. They fought against you, but I delivered them into your power. You took possession of their land, and I destroyed them (the two kings of the Amorites) before you.
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Then Balak, son of Zippor, king of Moab, prepared to war against Israel. He summoned Balaam, son of Beor, to curse you;
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but I would not listen to Balaam. On the contrary, he had to bless you, and I saved you from him.
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Once you crossed the Jordan and came to Jericho, the men of Jericho fought against you, but I delivered them also into your power.
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2 And I sent the hornets ahead of you which drove them (the Amorites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hittites, Girgashites, Hivites and Jebusites) out of your way; it was not your sword or your bow.
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"I gave you a land which you had not tilled and cities which you had not built, to dwell in; you have eaten of vineyards and olive groves which you did not plant. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2006 10:09:39 PM | In response to the OP. You mean is that racist against the Scots?
To me, the idea sounds like a variation on the theory called "British Israel". The British Israel theory is very odd IMO, but it has a long history in Scotland and is associated with Scottish Nationalisim in the modern Ulster Scot context.
British Israel is also popular among "Christian Identity" groups, so there is a strong connection with racisim, but not in the way that you probably thought.
Anyway, its a pretty fringe theory, and while not all it's adherents are crackpots, I personally think it is a wacky idea. | |
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