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 sillyspoke

Joined: 5/2/2004
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was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/11/2006 3:59:56 AM
I think I am still in love with kurt kobain, he will never betray me cos he is dead.

But I really like his lyrics and his music. I find him unbelieve smart, just wondering if people understand him as well as i do, or just wondering if i understand him.

What do u think he was talking bout it in his songs?

Many thanks
 okieroper

Joined: 8/23/2004
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was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/11/2006 5:37:42 AM
I love his music and playing style , but the dude was seriously depressed, one can only imagine the great songs and riffs that could have been ...... I alwys liked his accustic stuff personally
 sillyspoke

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Posted: 1/11/2006 5:44:48 AM
at okieroper

do u think that to be clever and being depressed are things that are linked?
 okieroper

Joined: 8/23/2004
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Posted: 1/11/2006 5:51:04 AM
im not sure if being clever and depressed are linked but the guy was gifted in music , the drugs more likely led to his demise more than anything is my guess
 MandaInLondon

Joined: 10/24/2005
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Posted: 1/11/2006 6:50:34 AM

im not sure if being clever and depressed are linked but the guy was gifted in music , the drugs more likely led to his demise more than anything is my guess


Depression was his demise as that is what lead him to abuse drugs.

Although, it was sd in his Biography that he started dabbling in Heroin because it got rid of his severe stomach pain temporarily. That was probably another factor.
 livewirehere

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Posted: 1/11/2006 6:55:51 AM
I think he was mostly a tortued soul, which can make many artists what they are... It can also make them much more intruiging~~~ I also loved Kurt Cobain.. Too bad he hooked up with, ahem, never mind..... That's another subject all together~~~
 MandaInLondon

Joined: 10/24/2005
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was kurt kobain very clever?
Posted: 1/11/2006 9:55:02 AM
I think him and Courteney were very well suited. Obviously, it was a fiery and destructive union cuz they both were fairly similar.
 Trav88

Joined: 11/11/2005
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Posted: 1/11/2006 11:00:10 AM
People that use various drugs tend to write some crazy stuff that tends to sell like cotton candy, most musicians probably can't write without drugs. But Kurt could make some pretty damn good songs.

I highly doubt the drugs contributed alone. Talent, depression, and drugs tend to bring out the best in lyrical content!

I always loved Nevermind especially Lithium and Come as you are. Depressing songs...haha
 sillyspoke

Joined: 5/2/2004
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Posted: 1/11/2006 11:56:53 AM
I saw him in concert around a month before he commit suicide, the concert was less than an hour (around 50 min), and some songs were very difficult to recognise, they did not do a great performance. I was quite close to him and he looked like shit, i mean he looked very sad and unhappy, when i was younger i use to think that i could have make him happy (well he is still my platonical teeneger love), but when i could see reality more clear i realise that noone could make happy kurt. He was so handsome he looked like an angel.

Maybe drugs help him, but when someone is able to see reality the first feeling that it comes is sadness, cos life is quite cruel, and only a clever person can see that.
 livewirehere

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Posted: 1/11/2006 1:13:31 PM
I think Lithium and Just a Girl are my 2 favorites.. Rape Me is another good one though~~
 Trav88

Joined: 11/11/2005
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Posted: 1/11/2006 2:29:36 PM
Yeah RIP Kurt the Grunge king!
 Loyal_Royal

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Posted: 1/11/2006 6:18:46 PM
He made some great music,fair enough.But the guy was a tosser.If your next door neighbour was jacking up all the time with his wife,you wouldn't think hey man he's writing some great tunes...you would think he was a waste of space,and rightfully be worried about the effects it was having on the kid.Oh and on your neighbourhood.Then for him to go and shoot himself in the head and leave a child fatherless ohhhhhhhh yes what a clever clever person.if thats clever,i think i will stick to being thick,but with ethics and morals.

easy easy
hey you shuddddddddddupppp
 livewirehere

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Posted: 1/11/2006 7:24:49 PM
He seems to have suffered the same "demise" as many famous artists~~ I think Nirvana definately made their "mark" in musical history.

By the way Trev, did you ever seen the "Unplugged" show they did on MTV shortly before his death. You're so right. He looked horrible and sounded pretty bad too. I think that was done just a couple of months before he took his life.
 Trav88

Joined: 11/11/2005
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Posted: 1/11/2006 7:35:29 PM
I think grunge played a part in making disturbed, but they are just extremely heavy metal. I just bought their new CD 10,000 Fists, kicks ass!

But as for more on topic, his music will live on forever I want to purchase his new set with a whole whack of unreleased music!
 livewirehere

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Posted: 1/11/2006 7:53:03 PM
I forgot to look at your profile to see how old you are Trev, but many of us "70's" kids started the original grunge ((look)) anyway. I remember wearing nothing but flannel shirts, olive green military jackets ((which we usually purchased at the local Salvation Army)) and jeans with rips, holes, and patches all over them.... What a wild time that was, whew~
 Trav88

Joined: 11/11/2005
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Posted: 1/11/2006 8:01:03 PM
Haha i'm 19, just a kid lol...
 livewirehere

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Posted: 1/11/2006 8:05:45 PM
You weren't even a "gleam" in someone's eye when we were tearin it up~~ It was a very "interesting" time to grow up, I must admit....
 Trav88

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Posted: 1/11/2006 8:09:24 PM
Yeah I wish I was born in that era, unfortunately i'm stuck with rap obsessed fanatics.
 livewirehere

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Posted: 1/11/2006 8:18:08 PM
My daughter is one of them, which is why her BF and 2 of his friends went to see the Crue with me in July.. She refused to go~~ Her loss~~~
 Trav88

Joined: 11/11/2005
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Posted: 1/11/2006 8:21:12 PM
Haha, yeah I don't see what people like about it's lyrical content, most of it is all the same. Killing, getting high, women and of course Bling-Bling.
 stevens

Joined: 10/6/2004
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Posted: 1/11/2006 8:21:43 PM
very clever.
so clever he knew where to get the
really good drugs.
high test all the way.

r.i.p.
 livewirehere

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Posted: 1/11/2006 8:33:58 PM
He held it together long enough to become pretty "famous", so all was not lost.

I guess unless anyone has ever battled an addiction, they don't know the horrible depression and feelings of hopelessness that a person goes through. Most addicts feel totally alone, even if they're always around other people. I remember reading that Kurt felt exactly like that and was even uncomfortable performing and having the "spotlight" on him many times. I'm sure the drugs had much to do with it.

I'll never be the one to "throw the first stone"... Nope. You never know when it's your turn~~~
 stevens

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Posted: 1/11/2006 9:16:15 PM
u got certain people with
that druggie personalty and once
u become a star and u got the cash rollin in.
the end is near cause u got the means to get the potent stuff.
and is only that much quicker to ur demise.
kurt got so spaced and dope sick and the depression that goes with it.
that the shotgun was just the more clever way out.hehe.
 toonsmith

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Posted: 1/12/2006 12:17:46 AM
I've been to Aberdeen where Kurt grew up. That place would drive any sensitive soul to drugs.
 Disco Daddy

Joined: 8/10/2005
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Posted: 1/12/2006 3:41:28 AM
He was gifted, and I enjoy his music, but I wont say clever. I say it's a shame. If he was clever he would probably still be alive. He blew his brains out, that is not clever at all. Some would say that's the cowardly way out.
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