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 passportcharlie

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Earths Chonicles. Religion, Scientist, Historian?.
Posted: 1/12/2006 1:07:19 AM
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/zchron.html is the website containing this information and more

www.sitchin.com is where it begins

The Earth Chronicles: Time Chart
compiled by Dave Schultz
Volumes have been discussed on portions of Zechariah Sitchin's 'Earth Chronicles' during the past two years, but nothing really definitive and comprehensive enough to view his works with any degree of chronological sequence. Because of the all-encompassing scope of his synthesis and how it may relate to UFO's today, I submit this five-part post showing the time line for major points of the EC's for your interest, examination, comment and critique: (Book titles in Sitchin's works are listed at the end of Part 5.)

I think the work that went into the Earth Chronicles, as evidenced by the sources listed in Part 4 and 5, should put the author head and shoulders above most if not all researchers and scholars of ancient history. I've been following his works since his first book appeared in 1976, and have heard or read nothing to disprove any of his major points. On the contrary, many of his contentions have been confirmed by the mainstream academia, and a closer study of his works may yield answers more relevant to the questions we have today concerning our neighboring planets and space travel. I did not compile or type the information contained within this four-part post. But I would have if someone else hadn't done it first. It was a long, arduous and commendable task, and I recommend that it be hard-copied for your reference works.

The following is a blurb from the dust cover of "The 12th Planet".

"Dear Reader, The Earth Chronicles series is based on the premise that mythology is not fanciful but the repository of ancient memories; that the Bible ought to be read literally as a historic/scientific document; and that ancient civilizations - older and greater than assumed - were the product of knowledge brought to Earth by the Anunnaki, "Those Who from Heaven to Earth Came." The 12th Planet, the first book of the series, presents ancient evidence for the existence of an additional planet in the Solar System: the home planet of the Anunnaki. In confirmation of this evidence, recent data from unmanned spacecraft has led astronomers to actively search for what is being called "Planet X.'' The subsequent volume, The Stairway to Heaven, traces man's unending search for immortality to a spaceport in the Sinai Peninsula and to the Giza pyramids, which had served as landing beacons for it- refuting the notion that these pyramids were built by human pharaohs. Recently, records by an eye witness to a forgery of an inscription by the pharaoh Khufu inside the Great Pyramid corroborated the book's conclusions. The Wars of Gods and Men, recounting events closer to our times, concludes that the Sinai spaceport was destroyed 4,000 years ago with nuclear weapons. Photographs of Earth from space clearly show evidence of such an explosion. Such gratifying corroboration of audacious conclusions has been even swifter for The Lost Realms. In the relatively short interval between the completion of the manuscript and its publication, archaeologists, linguists, and other scientists have offered a "coastal theory" in lieu of the "frozen trekking" one to account for man's arrival in the Americas - in ships, as this volume has concluded; have "suddenly discovered 2000 years of missing civilization," in the words of a Yale University scholar - confirming this book's conclusion, and are now linking the beginnings of such civilizations to those of the Old World, as Sumerian texts and biblical verses suggest. I trust that modern science will continue to confirm ancient knowledge."

About the author of The Earth Chronicles, also from dust cover...

"Zecharia Sitchin was raised in Palestine, where he acquired a profound knowledge of modern and ancient Hebrew, other Semitic and European languages, the Old Testament, and the history and archaeology of the Near East. He attended the London School of Economics and Political Science and graduated from the University of London, majoring in economic history. A leading journalist and editor in Israel for many years, he now lives and writes in New York. One of the few scholars able to read and understand Sumerian, Sitchin has based The Earth Chronicles, his recent series of books dealing with Earth's and man's histories and prehistories, on the information and texts written down on clay tablets by the ancient civilizations of the Near East. His books have been widely translated, reprinted in paperback editions, converted to Braille for the blind."

The Earth Chronicles: Time Chart
I. Events Before the Deluge
Years Ago
450,000 On Nibiru, a distant member of our solar system, life faces slow extinction as the planet's atmosphere erodes. Deposed by Anu, the ruler Alalu escapes in a spaceship and finds refuge on Earth. He discovers that Earth has gold that can be used to protect Nibiru's atmosphere.

445,000 Led by Enki, a son of Anu, the Anunnaki land on Earth, establish Eridu - Earth Station I - for extracting gold from the waters of the Persian Gulf.

430,000 Earth's climate mellows. More Anunnaki arrive on Earth, among them Enki's half-sister Ninhursag, Chief Medical Officer.

416,000 As gold production falters, Anu arrives on Earth with Enlil, the heir apparent. It is decided to obtain the vital gold by mining it in southern Africa. Drawing lots, Enlil wins command of Earth Mission; Enki is relegated to Africa. On departing Earth, Anu is challenged by Alalu's grandson.

400,000 Seven functional settlements in southern Mesopotamia include a Spaceport (Sippar), Mission Control Center (Nippur), a metallurgical center (Shuruppak). The ores arrive by ships from Africa; the refined metal is sent aloft to orbiters manned by Igigi, then transferred to spaceships arriving periodically from Nibiru.

380,000 Gaining the support of the Igigi, Alalu's grandson attempts to seize mastery over Earth. The Enlilites win the War of the Olden Gods.

300,000 The Anunnaki toiling in the gold mines mutiny. Enki and

Ninhursag create Primitive Workers through genetic manipulation of Ape woman; they take over the manual chores of the Anunnaki. Enlil raids the mines, brings the Primitive Workers to the Edin in Mesopotamia. Given the ability to procreate, Homo Sapiens begins to multiply.

200,000 Life on Earth regresses during a new glacial period.

100,000 Climate warms again. The Anunnaki (the biblical Nefilim), to Enlil's growing annoyance marry the daughters of Man.

75,000 The "accursation of Earth" - a new Ice Age-begins. Regressive types of Man roam the Earth . Cro-Magnon man survives.

49,000 Enki and Ninhursag elevate humans of Anunnaki parentage to rule in Shuruppak. Enlil, enraged. plots Mankind's demise.

13,000 Realizing that the passage of Nibiru in Earth's proximity will trigger an immense tidal wave, Enlil makes the Anunnaki swear to keep the impending calamity a secret from Mankind.

II. Events After the Deluge
B.C.
11,000 Enki breaks the oath, instructs Ziusudra/Noah to build a submersible ship. The Deluge sweeps over the Earth; the Anunnaki witness the total destruction from their orbiting spacecraft.

Enlil agrees to grant the remnants of Mankind implements and seeds; agriculture begins in the highlands. Enki domesticates animals.

10,500 The descendants of Noah are allotted three regions. Ninurta, Enlil's foremost son, dams the mountains and drains the rivers to make Mesopotamia habitable; Enki reclaims the Nile valley. The Sinai peninsula is retained by the Anunnaki for a post-Diluvial spaceport; a control center is established on Mount Moriah (the future Jerusalem).

9780 Ra/Marduk, Enki's firstborn son, divides dominion over Egypt between Osiris and Seth.

9330 Seth seizes and dismembers Osiris, assumes sole rule over the Nile Valley.

8970 Horus avenges his father Osiris by launching the First Pyramid War. Seth escapes to Asia, seizes the Sinai peninsula and Canaan.

8670 Opposed to the resulting control of all the space facilities by Enki's descendants, the Enlilites launch the Second Pyramid War. The victorious Ninurta empties the Great Pyramid of its equipment.

Ninhursag, half-sister of Enki and Enlil, convenes peace conference. The division of Earth is reaffirmed. Rule over Egypt transferred from the Ra/Marduk dynasty to that of Thoth. Heliopolis built as a substitute Beacon City.

8500 The Anunnaki establish outposts at the gateway to the space facilities; Jericho is one of them.

7400 As the era of peace continues, the Anunnaki grant Mankind new advances; the Neolithic period begins. Demi-gods rule over Egypt.

3800 Urban civilization begins in Sumer as the Anunnaki reestablish there the Olden Cities, beginning with Eridu and Nippur.

Anu comes to Earth for a pageantful visit. A new city, Uruk (Erech), is built in his honor; he makes its temple the abode of his beloved granddaughter Inanna/lshtar.

III. Kingship on Earth
3760 Mankind granted kingship. Kish is first capital under the aegis of Ninurta. The calendar begun at Nippur. Civilization blossoms out in Sumer (the First Region).

3450 Primacy in Sumer transferred to Nannar/Sin. Marduk proclaims Babylon "Gateway of the Gods." The "Tower of Babel" incident. The Anunnaki confuse Mankind's languages.

His coup frustrated, Marduk/Ra returns to Egypt, deposes Thoth, seizes his younger brother Dumuzi who had betrothed Inanna. Dumuzi accidentally killed; Marduk imprisoned alive in the Great Pyramid. Freed through an emergency shaft, he goes into exile.

3100 350 years of chaos end with installation of first Egyptian Pharaoh in Memphis. Civilization comes to the Second Region.

2900 Kingship in Sumer transferred to Erech. Inanna given dominion over the Third Region; the Indus Valley Civilization begins.

2650 Sumer's royal capital shifts about. Kingship deteriorates. Enlil loses patience with the unruly human multitudes.

2371 Inanna falls in love with Sharru-Kin (Sargon). He establishes new capital city. Agade (Akkad). Akkadian empire launched.

2316 Aiming to rule the four regions, Sargon removes sacred soil from Babylon. The Marduk-Inanna conflict flares up again. It ends when Nergal, Marduk's brother, journeys from south Africa to Babylon and persuades Marduk to leave Mesopotamia.

2291 Naram-Sin ascends the throne of Akkad. Directed by the warlike Inanna, he penetrates the Sinai peninsula, invades Egypt.

2255 Inanna usurps the power in Mesopotamia; Naram-Sin defies Nippur. The Great Anunnaki obliterate Agade. Inanna escapes. Sumer and Akkad occupied by foreign troops loyal to Enlil and Ninurta.

2220 Sumerian civilization rises to new heights under enlightened rulers of Lagash. Thoth helps its king Gudea build a ziggurat-temple for Ninurta.

2193 Terah, Abraham's father, born in Nippur into a priestly-royal family.

2180 Egypt divided; followers of Ra/Marduk retain the south; Pharaohs opposed to him gain the throne of lower Egypt.

2130 As Enlil and Ninurta are increasingly away, central authority also deteriorates in Mesopotamia. Inanna's attempts to regain the kingship for Erech does not last.

The Fateful Century
B.C
2123 Abraham born in Nippur.

2113 Enlil entrusts the Lands of Shem to Nannar; Ur declared capital of new empire. Ur- Nammmu ascends throne, is named Protector of Nippur. A Nippurian priest-Terah, Abraham's father - comes to Ur to liaison with its royal court.

2096 Ur-Nammu dies in battle. The people consider his untimely death a betrayal by Anu and Enlil. Terah departs with his family for Harran.

2095 Shulgi ascends the throne of Ur, strengthens imperial ties. As empire thrives, Shulgi falls under charms of Inanna, becomes her lover. Grants Larsa to Elamites in exchange for serving as his Foreign Legion.

2080 Theban princes loyal to Ra/Marduk press northward under Mentuhotep I. Nabu, Marduk's son, gains adherents for his father in Western Asia.

2055 On Nannar's orders, Shulgi sends Elamite troops to suppress unrest in Canaanite cities. Elamites reach the gateway to the Sinai peninsula and its Spaceport.

2048 Shulgi dies. Marduk moves to the Land of the Hittites. Abraham ordered to southern Canaan with an elite corps of cavalrymen.

2047 Amar-Sin (the biblical Amraphel) becomes king of Ur. Abraham goes to Egypt, stays five years, then returns with more troops.

2041 Guided by Inanna, Amar-Sin forms a coalition of Kings of the East, launches military expedition to Canaan and the Sinai. Its leader is the Elamite Khedor-la'omer. Abraham blocks the advance at the gateway to the Spaceport.

2038 Shu-Sin replaces Amar-Sin on throne of Ur as the empire disintegrates.

2029 Ibbi-Sin replaces Shu-Sin. The western provinces increasingly to Marduk.

2024 Leading his followers, Marduk marches on Sumer, enthrones himself in Babylon. Fighting spreads to central Mesopotamia. Nippur's Holy of Holies is defiled. Enlil demands punishment for Marduk and Nabu; Enki opposes, but his son Nergal sides with Enlil.

As Nabu marshals his Canaanite followers to capture the Spaceport, the Great Anunnaki approve of the use of nuclear weapons. Nergal and Ninurta destroy the Spaceport and the errant Canaanite cities.

2023 The winds carry the radioactive cloud to Sumer. People die a terrible death, animals perish, the water is poisoned, the soil becomes barren. Sumer and its great civilization lie prostrate. Its legacy passes to Abraham's seed as he begets -at age 100- a legitimate heir: Isaac.

(All of the above was taken from Zecharia Sitchin's EARTH CHRONICLES.)

SOURCES
I. Princlpal sources for biblical texts
A. Genesis through Deuteronomy: The Five Books of Moses, new edition revised by Dr. M. Stern, Star Hebrew Book Company, undated.

B. For latest translation and interpretation based on Sumerian and Akkadian finds; "Genesis" from The Anchor Bible trans. by E A Speiser, Garden City, N.Y.: Doubleday & Co., 1964.

C. For "archaic" flavor: From The Anchor Bible, King James Version, Cleveland and New York: The World Publishing Co., undated.

D. For verification of recent interpretations of biblical verses: The Torah, new translation of the Holy Scriptures according to the Masoretic text, New York: Jewish Publication Society of America 1962; The New American Bible, translation by members of the Catholic Blblical Association of America, New York: P. J. Kenedy & Sons, 1970; and The New English Bible, planned and directed by the Church of Eng]and, Oxford: Oxford University Press; Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1970.

E. For reference on usage comparison and translation aids: Veteris Testamenti Concordantiae Hebraicae Atque Chalaiacae by Solomon Mandekern, Jerusalem: Schocken Books, Inc., 1962; Encyclapedic Dictionary of the Bible, a translation and adaptation of the work by A. van den Born, by the Catholic Biblical Association of America, New York: McGraw-Hill Book Co., Inc., 1963; and Millon Hatanach (Hebrew), Hebrew-Aramaic by Jushua Steinberg, Tel Aviv: Israel Publishing House Ltd., 1961.

II. Principal Sources for Near Eastern texts
Barton, George A. The Royal Inscriptions of Sumer and Akkad. 1929.

Borger, Riekele. Babylonisch-Assyrisch Lesestucke. 1963.

Budge, E. A. Wallis. The Gods of the Egyptians. 1904.

Budge, E. A. W., and King, L. W. Annals of the Kings of Assyria. 1902

Chiera, Edward. Sumerian Religious Texts. 1924.

Ebeling, E.; Meissner, B.; and Weidner, E. (eds.). Reallexikon der Assyrology und Vorderasiatschen Archaeology. 1932-1957.

Ebeling, Erich. Enuma Elish: die Siebente Tafel des Akkadischen Weltschopfunsliedes. 1939.

--. Tod und Leben nach den Vorstellungen der Babylonier. 1931.

Falkenstein, Adam, and W. von Soden. Sumerische und Akkadische Hymnen und Gebete. 1953

Falkenstein, Adam. Sumerische Goetterlieder. 1959

Fossey, Charles. La Magie Syrienne. 1902

Frankfort, Henri. Kingship and the Gods. 1948

Gray, John. The Cananites. 1964.

Gordon, Cyrus H. "Canaanite Mythology" in Mythologies of the Ancient World 1961

Grossman, Hugo. The Development of the Idea of God in the Old Testament 1926

--. Altorientalische Texte und Bilder zum alten Testamente. 1909

Guterbock, Hans G. "Hittite Mythology" in Mythologies of the Ancient World. 1961

Heidle, Alexander The Babylonian Genesis. 1969.

Hilprecht, Herman V. (ed.). Reports of the Babylonian Expedition: Cuneiform Texts. 1893-1914.

Jacobsen, Thorkild "Mesopotamia" in The Intellectual Adventure of Acient Man. 1946.

Jastro, Morris Die Religion Babyloniens und Assyriens. 1905-12

Jean Charles-F. La religion sumerienne 1931.

Jensen, P. Texte zur assyrisch-babylonischen Religion. 1915.

--. Die Kosmologie der Babylonier. 1890.

Jereias, Alfred. The Old Testament in the Light of the Ancient Near East 1911.

--. Das Alter der babylonischen Astronomie. 1908.

--. Handbuch der Altorientalische Geistkultur.

Jeremias, Alfred, and Winckler, Hugo. Im Kampfe um den alten Orient.

King, Leonard W. Babylonian Magic and Sorcery, being "The Prayers of the Lifting of the Hand." 1896.

--. The Assyrian Language 1901.

--. The Seven Tablets of Creation. 1902

--. Babylonian Religion and Mythology. 1899

Kramer, Samuel N. The Sumerians. 1963

--. (ed.): Mythologies of the Ancient World. 1961.

--. History Begins at Sumer. 1959.

--. Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta. 1952.

--. From the Tablets of Sumer. 1956.

--. Sumerian Mythology. 1961.

Kugler, Franz Xaver. Sternkunde und Sterndienst in Babylon. 1907-1913

Lambert, W. G., and Millard, A. R. Atra-Hasis, the Babylonian Story of the Flood. 1970).

Langdon, Stephen. Sumerian and Bayylonian Psalms. 1909

--. Tammuz and Ishtar. 1914.

--. (ed.): Oxford Editions of Cuneiform texts. 1923 ff.

--. "Semitic Mythology" in The Mythology of All Races 1964 -

--. Enuma Elish: The Babylonian Epic of Creation 1923.

--. Babylonian Penitential Psalms. 1927

--. Die Neu-Babylonischen Konigsinschriften. 1912.

Luckenbill, David D. Ancient Records of Assyria and Babylonia 1926-27

Nugebauer, O. Astronomical Cuneiform Texts. 1955.

Pinches, Theophilus G. "Some Mathematical Tablets in the British Museum" in Hilprecllt Anniversary Volume. 1909.

Pritchard James B. (ed). Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament. 1999969

Rawlinson, Henry C. The Cuneiform Inscriptians of Western Asia. 1861-84

Sayce, A H. The Religion of the Babylions 1888.

Smith, George. The Chaldean Account of Genesis. 1876.

Thomas, D. Winton. (ed.). Documents from Old Testament Times. 1961.

Thompson, R. Campbell. Reports of the Magicians and Astrologers of Nineveh and Babylon. 1900.

Thureau-Dallgin, Francois. Les Inscriptions de Sumer et Akkad 1905

--. Die sumerischen und akkadische Konigsinschriften. 1907

--. Rituels accadiens. 1921.

Virolleaud, Charles. L'Astronomie Chaldeenne. 1903-1908

Weidner, Ernst F. Alter und Bedeutung der Babylonischer Astronomie und Astrallehre. 1914

--. Handbuch der Babylonischenn Astronomie. 1915.

Witzel, P. Maurus. Tammuz-Liturgien und verwandtes 1935.

III. Studies and articles consulted in various issues of the following periodicals
Der Alte Orient (Leipzig)

American Journal of Archaeology (Concord,Mass.)

American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures (Chicago)

Annual of the American Schools of Oriental Research (New Haven)

Archiv fur Keilschriftforschung (Berlin)

Archiv fur Orientforschung (Berlin)

Archiv Oriental (Prague)

Assyrologische Bibliothek (Leipzig)

Assyrological Studies (Chicago)

Das Ausland (Berlin)

Babylotliaca (Paris)

Beitrage zur Assyrologie und semitischen Sprachwissenschaft (Lipzig)

Berliner Beitrage zur Keilschriftforschung (Berlin)

Bibliotheca Orientalis (Leiden)

Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research (Jerusalem & Baghdad)

Deutsches Morgenlandische Gesellschaft Abhandlungen (Leipzig)

Harvard Semitic Series (Cambridge, Mass.)

Hebrew Union College Annual (Cincinnati)

Journal Asiatique (Paris)

Journal of the American Oriental Society (New Haven)

Journal of Biblical Literature and Exegesis (Middletown)

Journal of Cuneiform Studies (New Haven)

Journal of Near Eastern Studies (Chicago)

Journal of Semitic Studies (Manchester)

Keilinschriftliche Bibliotek Berlin

Konigliche Museen zu Berlin: Mitteilungen aus Orientalischen Sammlungen (Berlin)

Leipziger semitische Studien (Leipzig)

Mitteilungen der altorientalischen Gesellschaft (Leipzig)

Mitteilungen des Instituts fur Orientforschung (Berlin)

Orientalia (Rome)

Orientalische Literaturzeitung (Berlin)

Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society (Philadelphia)

Proceedings of the Society of Biblical Archaeology (London)

Revue d'Assyrologie et d'archeologie orientale (Paris)

Revue biblique (Paris)

Sacra Scriptura Antiquitatibus Orientalibus Illustrata (Vatican)

Studia Orientalia (Helsinki)

Transactions of the Society of Biblical Archaeology (London)

Untersuchungen zur Assyrologie und vorderasiatischen Archaologie (Berlin)

Vorderasiatische Bibliothek (Leipzig)

Die Welt des Orients (Gottingen)

Wissenschaftliche Veroffentlichungen der deutschen Orient-Gesellschaft (Berlin)

Zeitschrift fur Assyrologie und verwandte Gebiete (Leipzig)

Zeitschrift fur die alttestamentliche wissenschaft (Berlin, Gissen)

Zeitschrift der deutschen morgenlandischen Gesellschaft (Leipzig)

Zeitschrift fur Keilschriftforschung (Leipzig) (END OF QUOTED MATERIAL)

(No, I did not read any of these sources.)

Books in the EARTH CHRONICLE series: (All Avon Books)

1. The 12th Planet
2. The Stairway to Heaven
3. The Wars of Gods and Men
4. The Lost Realms
5. When Time Began

Companion Book: 'Genesis Revisited'

 late™

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Earths Chonicles. Religion, Scientist, Historian?.
Posted: 1/12/2006 3:12:46 AM
I've been following his works since his first book appeared in 1976, and have heard or read nothing to disprove any of his major points.


A few Stichin debunking resources here:

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchiniswrongcontentpage.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/hafernik.html

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/nutshell.html

http://www.ramtops.co.uk/siren.html

Plenty more good stuff for those with a healthy skepticism of pseudo-science and the para-normal

http://www.csicop.org/

http://physics.syr.edu/courses/modules/PSEUDO/pseudo_main.html

"For every credibility gap there is a gullibility fill"
- Richard Clopton
 passportcharlie

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Earths Chonicles. Religion, Scientist, Historian?.
Posted: 1/12/2006 4:04:21 AM
thanks late(tm) healthy idea:

Here is the result from my research searches. I include the search engine for referance even when I found them in google ads or any other far out search engines. There are 73 sites less the ones that were edited out for one reason (posted) or another.

1.
The Official Web Site of Zecharia Sitchin
Author of The 12th Planet and several other books in the Earth Chronicles series, Sitchin argues that the deities of the ancient Near East were real, ...
www.sitchin.com/ [Found on Google, MSN Search, Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
2.
Sitchin
Sitchin says it is because these ancient people did not come from Earth, ... This is but one of the perplexing questions Sitchin investigates in the Earth ...
www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/sitchin.html [Found on Google, MSN Search, Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
3.
SITCHIN, PLANET X, NASA, MARS, EARTH, ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS
angels or aliens? What were people reporting in the bible thousands of years ago?Are aliens really from other worlds? Where is the evidence? RIGHT HERE!
www.mars-earth.com/sitchin.htm [Found on Google, MSN Search, Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
4.
Zecharia Sitchin and The Earth Chronicles
over 400 skeptical definitions and essays on occult, paranormal,supernatural and pseudoscientific ideas and practices with references to the best skeptical ...
skepdic.com/sitchin.html [Found on Google, MSN Search, Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
5.
edited out - promotional
6.
Sitchin index
Zecharia Sitchin's ancient astronaut theories - a skeptical archive ... An interview with Z. Sitchin. The Earth Chronicles: a time chart (Dave Schultz) ...
www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/zindex.html [Found on Google, MSN Search]
7.
Sitchin's Twelfth Planet
Zecharia Sitchin's The 12th Planet purports to contain "indisputable documentary ... This work is intended to be an analysis of Sitchin's book in light of ...
www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/hafernik.html [Found on Google, MSN Search]
8.
Sitchin
Sitchin, however, creates a history far beyond anything we have seen or read in our modern history books. Words that come to mind to describe Sitchin's writings are spectacular and fantasti...
www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/divine.html [Found on MSN Search, Yahoo! Search]
9.
ZECHARIA SITCHIN (WHERE WE COME FROM)
Sitchin concluded the placement of these pyramids indicates that they served as landing markers for the Nibiruans after they entered the Earth's atmosphere from outer space. Sitchin also .....
www.mars-earth.com/sitchintext.htm [Found on MSN Search, Ask Jeeves]
10.
Surfing The Apocalypse
Scholar Zecharia Sitchin's Earth Chronicles Series Document Nibiru, ... MARS-EARTH CONNECTION SITCHIN RESEARCH SITE--The work of Zecharia Sitchin is based ...
www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/sitchin.html [Found on Google, Ask Jeeves]
11.
Zecharia Sitchin's World
... I: "AS INTERPRETED BY ME" Zecharia Sitchin says that he first realized aliens colonized earth when he ... The Russian-born Sitchin does not seem at first glance like one ...
jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id14.html [Found on Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
12.
SitchinIsWrong
Welcome to the website devoted to addressing the flaws of the ancient astronaut hypothesis popularized in the writings of Zecharia Sitchin. ...
www.sitchiniswrong.com/ [Found on Google, MSN Search]
13.
Official Zecharia Sitchin items
"The 12th Planet" playing cards. DVDs, audio/video tapes including; "Wars in Heaven-Wars on Earth", "An Evening with Zecharia Sitchin" and a revealing "Are We Alone In The Universe? ".
Sponsored by: wingeddisk.com [Found on Ads by Yahoo!]
14.
ZetaTalk: Sitchin
Sitchin NOte: written on Aug 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same. Zecharia Sitchin early on in his career as an archeologist discovered patterns that intrigued him. ...
www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p51.htm [Found on MSN Search, Yahoo! Search]
15.
Click Here: Zecharia Sitchin
Zecharia Sitchin is a brilliant author and contemporary Ufologists. He is the author of several very popular new age books reporting his polytheistic ...
www.logoschristian.org/yahweh.html [Found on Google, MSN Search]
16.
Vatican
SITCHIN AND VATICAN THEOLOGIAN DISCUSS UFO's, EXTRATERRESTRIALS, ANGELS, CREATION OF MAN Report by Zecharia Sitchin The death of Pope John Paul II has occasioned widespread discussions abou...
www.sitchin.com/vatican.htm [Found on MSN Search]
17.
Sitchin links
Links to writings about Sitchin, Nibiru, Planet X, Anunnaki, Sumerian writings ... Best viewed 800 x 600. Internet Explorer. Sitchin Links. Home. Sitchin. Planet X ... OVER 100 LINKS ON THI...
www.geocities.com/sitchin_links [Found on Yahoo! Search]
18.
Dark Star Theory
I have now updated this theory substantially, moving closer to Zecharia Sitchin's own previous work but also incorporating a swath of new...
www.darkstar1.co.uk/ [Found on Ask Jeeves]
19.
Teapot
The Case of the Misplaced Teapot. A Failed Challenge To An Enigma of Ancient Astronomy. by Zecharia Sitchin ... that "credulous readers are persuaded by Sitchin that the traditions of ancie...
www.sitchin.com/teapot.htm [Found on Yahoo! Search]
20.
Sitchin's Sumerian Astronomy Refuted
Sitchin has the following planetary identifications: Sun Apsu Mercury Mummu Venus Lahamu...
www.ramtops.demon.co.uk/siren.html [Found on Ask Jeeves]
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The Official Web Site of Zecharia Sitchin
Author of The 12th Planet and several other books in the Earth Chronicles series, Sitchin argues that the deities of the ancient Near East were real, ...
www.sitchin.com/ [Found on Google, MSN Search, Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
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Sitchin
Sitchin says it is because these ancient people did not come from Earth, ... This is but one of the perplexing questions Sitchin investigates in the Earth ...
www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/sitchin.html [Found on Google, MSN Search, Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
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SITCHIN, PLANET X, NASA, MARS, EARTH, ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS
angels or aliens? What were people reporting in the bible thousands of years ago?Are aliens really from other worlds? Where is the evidence? RIGHT HERE!
www.mars-earth.com/sitchin.htm [Found on Google, MSN Search, Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
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Zecharia Sitchin and The Earth Chronicles
over 400 skeptical definitions and essays on occult, paranormal,supernatural and pseudoscientific ideas and practices with references to the best skeptical ...
skepdic.com/sitchin.html [Found on Google, MSN Search, Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
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Sitchin at Amazon.com
Buy books at Amazon.com. Low prices and easy shopping. Search the full text of books. Free Super Saver Shipping on qualified orders over $25.
Sponsored by: www.amazon.com [Found on Ads by Yahoo!]
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Sitchin index
Zecharia Sitchin's ancient astronaut theories - a skeptical archive ... An interview with Z. Sitchin. The Earth Chronicles: a time chart (Dave Schultz) ...
www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/zindex.html [Found on Google, MSN Search]
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Sitchin's Twelfth Planet
Zecharia Sitchin's The 12th Planet purports to contain "indisputable documentary ... This work is intended to be an analysis of Sitchin's book in light of ...
www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/hafernik.html [Found on Google, MSN Search]
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Sitchin
Sitchin, however, creates a history far beyond anything we have seen or read in our modern history books. Words that come to mind to describe Sitchin's writings are spectacular and fantasti...
www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/divine.html [Found on MSN Search, Yahoo! Search]
9.
ZECHARIA SITCHIN (WHERE WE COME FROM)
Sitchin concluded the placement of these pyramids indicates that they served as landing markers for the Nibiruans after they entered the Earth's atmosphere from outer space. Sitchin also .....
www.mars-earth.com/sitchintext.htm [Found on MSN Search, Ask Jeeves]
10.
Surfing The Apocalypse
Scholar Zecharia Sitchin's Earth Chronicles Series Document Nibiru, ... MARS-EARTH CONNECTION SITCHIN RESEARCH SITE--The work of Zecharia Sitchin is based ...
www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/sitchin.html [Found on Google, Ask Jeeves]
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Zecharia Sitchin's World
... I: "AS INTERPRETED BY ME" Zecharia Sitchin says that he first realized aliens colonized earth when he ... The Russian-born Sitchin does not seem at first glance like one ...
jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id14.html [Found on Yahoo! Search, Ask Jeeves]
12.
SitchinIsWrong
Welcome to the website devoted to addressing the flaws of the ancient astronaut hypothesis popularized in the writings of Zecharia Sitchin. ...
www.sitchiniswrong.com/ [Found on Google, MSN Search]
13.
Official Zecharia Sitchin items
"The 12th Planet" playing cards. DVDs, audio/video tapes including; "Wars in Heaven-Wars on Earth", "An Evening with Zecharia Sitchin" and a revealing "Are We Alone In The Universe? ".
Sponsored by: wingeddisk.com [Found on Ads by Yahoo!]
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ZetaTalk: Sitchin
Sitchin NOte: written on Aug 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same. Zecharia Sitchin early on in his career as an archeologist discovered patterns that intrigued him. ...
www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p51.htm [Found on MSN Search, Yahoo! Search]
15.
Click Here: Zecharia Sitchin
Zecharia Sitchin is a brilliant author and contemporary Ufologists. He is the author of several very popular new age books reporting his polytheistic ...
www.logoschristian.org/yahweh.html [Found on Google, MSN Search]
16.
Vatican
SITCHIN AND VATICAN THEOLOGIAN DISCUSS UFO's, EXTRATERRESTRIALS, ANGELS, CREATION OF MAN Report by Zecharia Sitchin The death of Pope John Paul II has occasioned widespread discussions abou...
www.sitchin.com/vatican.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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Sitchin links
Links to writings about Sitchin, Nibiru, Planet X, Anunnaki, Sumerian writings ... Best viewed 800 x 600. Internet Explorer. Sitchin Links. Home. Sitchin. Planet X ... OVER 100 LINKS ON THI...
www.geocities.com/sitchin_links [Found on Yahoo! Search]
18.
Dark Star Theory
I have now updated this theory substantially, moving closer to Zecharia Sitchin's own previous work but also incorporating a swath of new...
www.darkstar1.co.uk/ [Found on Ask Jeeves]
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Teapot
The Case of the Misplaced Teapot. A Failed Challenge To An Enigma of Ancient Astronomy. by Zecharia Sitchin ... that "credulous readers are persuaded by Sitchin that the traditions of ancie...
www.sitchin.com/teapot.htm [Found on Yahoo! Search]
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Sitchin's Sumerian Astronomy Refuted
Sitchin has the following planetary identifications: Sun Apsu Mercury Mummu Venus Lahamu...
www.ramtops.demon.co.uk/siren.html [Found on Ask Jeeves]
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Zecharia Sitchin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A big 'Thank you!' to everyone who donated in this fundraiser! Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales' personal appeal for donations is still ongoing. Zecharia Sitchin. From Wikipedia, the free ency...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin [Found on Yahoo! Search]
22.
Zecharia Sitchin/Niburu
All about the scholar's theory that humankind is the genetic creation of a race of aliens from
paranormal.about.com/od/zsitchinniburu/index.htm [Found on About]
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Troubled Times: Sitchin and Velikovsky
TOPIC: Sitchin and Velikovsky Are the wide spread predictions of a Millennium Comet based on fact? Zecharia Sitchin wrote the book The 12th Planet , documenting that Nibiru makes periodic v...
zetatalk.com/theword/tword082.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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Z. Sitchin/Niburu
All about the scholar's theory that humankind is the genetic creation of a race of aliens from
paranormal.about.com/cs/zechariasitchin/index.htm [Found on About]
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The Genesis Story
More people are learning the real meaning of the biblical record.
Sponsored by: www.genesis-story.com/ [Found on Ads by Google]
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Z. Sitchin/Niburu - page 2 of 2
All about the scholar's theory that humankind is the genetic creation of a race of aliens from
paranormal.about.com/cs/zechariasitchin/index_2.htm [Found on About]
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Zecharia Sitchin
Zecharia Sitchin's Errors: An Overview This section of the website covers the brief studies in the points below, any of which may be viewed by clicking on the links. You'll eventually need ...
www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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Feral Children; Paranormal Interviews; Sitchin
Some interesting links I've found this week: Â? Feral Children Â? Stories of children rescued from the wilderness have for centuries inspired awe, fascination and disbelief. Â? Hilly Rose o...
paranormal.about.com/b/a/126501.htm [Found on About]
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UFO Evidence : Zecharia Sitchin
Zecharia Sitchin In what must be a historic first, a high official of the Vatican and a Hebrew scholar discussed the issue of Extraterrestrials and the Creation of Man, and though different...
www.ufoevidence.org/topics/ZechariaSitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
30.
Is Nibiru Approaching?
Also known as The Twelfth Planet or Planet X, some are warning that this wandering body is quickly nearing the Earth - and could cause global devastation. Should you worry?
paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa021102a.htm [Found on About]
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The ZechariaSitchin.Com Discussion Board - Zecharia Sitchin's Theories ...
Zecharia Sitchin Discussion Board - Theories and Books The ZechariaSitchin.Com Discussion Board Zecharia Sitchin's Theories and Books including Related Books and Authors Proceed to the Disc...
www.zechariasitchin.com/ [Found on MSN Search]
32.
Planetary and Moon Anomalies
What you need to know about the many weird things out there in space, including anomalies on the Moon, Mars, the Sun and the other members of the Solar System.
paranormal.about.com/od/plantetarymoonanomalies/index.htm [Found on About]
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Earth Mysteries
What you need to know about a wide variety of unexplained phenomena on this planet, including ancient anomalies, Bermuda Triangle, crop circles, the hollow Earth, lost worlds, Earth anomali...
paranormal.about.com/od/earthmysteries/index.htm [Found on About]
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Zecharia Sitchin - Zecharia Sitchin - Author of The Earth Chronicles ...
Zecharia Sitchin - Author of The Earth Chronicles - an amazing insight into Ancient Civilizations Ancient Astronauts Gods of Old and The Origins Of Man Zecharia Sitchin - Author of The Eart...
www.poddys.com/sitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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Lost Worlds and Mysterious Civilizations
What you need to know about humankind's mysterious past, including Atlantis, ancient Egypt, Lemuria and Mu, Maya, Inca and other lost civilizations and their lost technology.
paranormal.about.com/od/lostworlds/index.htm [Found on About]
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Library Phantom
"After watching the GhostCam [from Willard Library] for a while," says Yolanda, "I captured this image. There's a strange black blob at the second table from the top. If you zoom in on it, ...
paranormal.about.com/b/a/126819.htm [Found on About]
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"I am the Webmaster for Zecharia Sitchin..."
Sitchin and I lectured together at NYU in 1993. He does discuss the return of the planet Nibiru and its inhabitants at this time. In order to ...
www.cassiopaea.org/cass/eparker.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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The Ghost Under the Bed
From David Emery's Netlore Archive: Email chain letter claims that a ghost depicted in the image on this page will "collect your soul" if you don't forward it to at least five people. Creep...
paranormal.about.com/b/a/127194.htm [Found on About]
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Has Nibiru Planet X Been Sighted? by Laura Knight-Jadczyk
Quite the contrary, in fact. [See: Sitchin's Mesopotamian Rocket Ships: How to Ignore Ancient Mesopotamian Dictionaries - by Michael S. Heiser, author of The Façade, Ph.D ...
www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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Sitchin's Theory (Morgana's Observatory)
Zecharia Sitchin's intriguing theory, backed up by verifiable research, that Earth was visited by ancient astronauts. Europa [Click on the name of the moon above for astronomical informatio...
www.dreamscape.com/morgana/sitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
43.
Conversation for Exploration - Zecharia Sitchin - Evidence of Ancient ...
... to Sitchin to be carved from a porous, volcanic ash stone, the details very precise. Dr. Pasinli asked Sitchin what he thought. It is not out of context, Sitchin told the ...
www.lauralee.com/sitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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Conversation for Exploration - Tom Van Flandern
Referring to Figure 101, p. 205 of Sitchin's "Twelfth Planet": a large star symbol is in the center. It is way too small in diameter relative to the planets; but we might ...
www.lauralee.com/vanflan.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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Zecharia Sitchin
Zecharia Sitchin is a world famous author, who has used ancient Sumerian and other texts to present pictorial and textual evidence showing that “we are not alone.” Recounting the incredible...
www.halexandria.org/dward195.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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World-Mysteries.com - Zecharia Sitchin
Read a short biography and key ideas of this popular author who believed ancient myths were based on fact. Includes a bibliography and a link to the official web site.
Sponsored by: www.world-mysteries.com/pex_2.htm [Found on LookSmart Reviewed, MSN Search]
48.
Zecharia Sitchin
Zecharia Sitchin Is modern science finally catching up with ancient knowledge? Zecharia Sitchin is one of fewer than 200 scholars in the world who can translate cuneiform. According to the ...
www.banned-books.com/fa-sitchin.html [Found on MSN Search]
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Zecharia Sitchin (1)
All seven of Zecharia Sitchin's erudite works as published include the following statement by the historian and researcher, Rosemary Decker: "Several factors make Sitchin's well-referenced ...
www.theneithnetwork.co.uk/sitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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Problems with Sitchin
Problems with Sitchin The following is an exchange regarding Sitchin's theories from my discussion list "From Sex to Superconsciousness." From: "mark thompson" Subject: Are the ...
www.truthbeknown.com/sitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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ZECHARIA SITCHIN: NOBUL PRIZE WININER
... Sitchin: A Balanced Critique" by Alan Alford. An excellent short article giving 14 major arguments of Sitchin and his opinion of them. He's clearly not afraid to disagree with Sitchin, ...
net-prophet.net/nobul/sitchin/sitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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The Bible UFO Connection - Bible Anomalies - The Works of Zechariah ...
Sitchin's Twelfth Planet Sitchin's Sumerian Astronomy Refuted Sitchin's Mesopotamian Rocket Ships: How to Ignore Ancient Mesopotamian Dictionaries Adam's "Alien Genes" - An Abbreviated Resp...
www.bibleufo.com/sitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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sitchin
sitchin The Pocket and the Pendant 2 sitchin Click to see the Topic List Search this Topic in mayor Search Engines. sitchin The Tyranny of This Book Is Absolute!, April 7, 2005 Reviewer: Gr...
www.pocketandpendant.com/host/sitchin/index.htm [Found on MSN Search]
56.
Challenge to Zechariah Sitchin, by Michael S. Heiser PhD
The 1 DVD Zechariah Sitchin Hopes You'll Never See... www.michaelsheiser.com www.thedivinecouncil.com www.sitchiniswrong.com Image used in Mike's Ezekiel 1 presentation Read Mike's mind-num...
www.alienresistance.org/michaelsheiserdvd.htm [Found on MSN Search]
57.
fUSION Anomaly. Zechariah Sitchin
Zechariah Sitchin Telex External Link Internal Link Inventory Cache Zechariah Sitchin This nOde last updated July 25th, 2002 and is permanently morphing... (11 Et'znab (Flint) / 11 Xul (Dog...
fusionanomaly.net/zechariahsitchin.html [Found on MSN Search]
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Yowusa.com eBooks: Nibiru (Planet X)
The recent release of Zecharia Sitchin’s latest book “The Lost Book Of Enki”, caused a lot of public interest, as well as some unexpected and unwarranted misinformation concerning our desti...
yowusa.com/ebooks/nibiru/yowusa_srl_nibiru05.html [Found on MSN Search]
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http://www.metatron.se/asitch.html
www.metatron.se/asitch.html [Found on MSN Search]
61.
Zecharia Sitchin
Excerpted and edited from "Interview with Zecharia Sitchin" from CONNECTING LINK issue 17 Zecharia Sitchin was born in Russia and raised in Palestine, where he ...
www.planetxvideo.com/sitchin.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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Beyond Sitchin - Part 3
Beyond Sitchin - Part III When the Anunnaki Mars outpost had become fully functional and their resources had been sufficiently replenished, the Anunnaki travelers migrated to Earth, a more ...
www.fugimusnocte.com/px2c.html [Found on MSN Search]
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Beyond Sitchin - Part 5
Beyond Sitchin - Part V It was generally agreed that Enki's son, Marduk, should perform the amazing feat. Egomaniac Marduk would, of course, love the attention it would bring and envision h...
www.fugimusnocte.com/px2e.html [Found on MSN Search]
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Rambles: Zecharia Sitchin, The Earth Chronicles Expeditions: Journeys ...
Zecharia Sitchin, The Earth Chronicles Expeditions: Journeys to the Mythical Past (Bear & Co., 2004) If you aren't familiar with the controversial theories of Zecharia Sitchin, I would reco...
www.rambles.net/sitchin_earthchron04.html [Found on MSN Search]
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Sitchin, Zecharia - Crystalinks
Excerpts a speech by Russian-born historian Zecharia Sitchin about prophesies that beings from a planet called Nibiru will visit Earth.
Sponsored by: www.crystalinks.com/sitchen.html [Found on LookSmart Reviewed, Ask Jeeves, MSN Search]
66.
Zecharia Sitchin
The work of Zecharia Sitchin is truly remarkable. Here for the first time is a video tape that explains his thesis on the 12th planet and the arrival of a race of people from Nibiru. This v...
www.portalmarket.com/alone.html [Found on MSN Search]
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ARCADIAN - Miscellany
Sitchin Studies Day by Zecharia Sitchin (Editor), et al. (October 1996) Español Français Deutschen Italiano Português " esse quam videri " ©1997-2004 Real Knowledge Data Network All Rights ...
www.rkdn.org/alternative/sitchin.asp [Found on MSN Search]
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An Interview with Zacharia Sitchin
An Interview with Zecharia Sitchin by Sirona Knight and Michael Starwyn Considered the father of alternative archeology, Zecharia Sitchin has a profound knowledge of modern and ancient Hebr...
www.sironaknight.com/bs5.htm [Found on MSN Search]
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B.I.P.E.D. :: Articles :: Stairway to Heaven
Are Zecharia Sitchin and Vatican official Monsignor Balducci really climbing the same path to ascension? Joan d'Arc The following talk was delivered to MUFON ...
www.biped.info/articles/stairway.html [Found on MSN Search]
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From time to time in the course of human history a revolutionary idea ...
A POWERFUL NEW IDEA BY ZECHARIA SITCHIN by G. Neil Spokes (updated Dec 9, 2002) From time to time in the course of human history a revolutionary idea is proposed that makes wonderful sense ...
users.erols.com/nspokes/SITCHIN/SITCHIN [Found on MSN Search]
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Zecharia Sitchin, September 1999, The 12th Planet
Zecharia Sitchin The 12th Planet September 17, 1999 Back to Speakers Below is the newsletter sent just prior to this event. The Eclectic Viewpoi...
eclectic.cgis-creative.com/stories/Sep99Sitchin1.php [Found on MSN Search]
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Planet X Video
Asks many questions about the possible existence of Planet X. View clips of the Planet X Video.
Sponsored by: www.planetxvideo.com/ [Found on LookSmart Reviewed]

 late™

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Msg: 4
Earths Chonicles. Religion, Scientist, Historian?.
Posted: 1/12/2006 4:27:40 AM
I remember reading the Erich von Däniken books, and a few of the Bermuda Triangle things in the '70s, they made for great fantasy-type reading, but even at a young age I could spot the "bad science". I also remember seeing Carl Sagan on TV, debunking Von Daniken.

Carl Sagan wrote many articles on what he called: "The Paradoxers", he even devoted a whole chapter to them in his book "Broca's Brain". One of the early authors in this recent genre of pseudo-science books was Immanual Velikovsky, a '50s pseudo-science "kook",...... hard to believe anybody could have taken him seriously.

It seems as Stichin is carrying on the tradition of Von Däniken, and Velikovsky, in making a buck off the gullible.

It's amazing to me that in these modern times, scientists are still having to explain to people that science is not a body of knowlege, ...but a method, and by not keeping to the method, ......it's not science.


Enough of Von Daniken's claims have, however, been examined to reveal his method of operations: to dazzle the reader with a skillful blend of half-truths (as well as quarter and eighth- truths, too). Looking into his past, (Ref: New York Times Book Review), we should not be too surprised to find that his rather broad criterion of truthfulness has, at times, brought him into conflict with the law. A court in his native Switzerland found Von Daniken guilty of embezzlement, forgery, and fraud, sentencing him to three and a half years in prison. While operating a Swiss hotel. it seems he fraudulently obtained money by misrepresenting his financial assets, this experience in deception later proving invaluable in his literary career. It was during this stay as a guest of the Swiss government that he wrote his second book, Gods from Outer Space, now also a best seller.

Once a liar, however, does not infallibly prove him always a liar. However much this charlatanism may hurt one's credibility, it never destroys it completely. (The followers of famous psychics are never shaken when their leader is caught cheating: they only cheat on bad days!) Von Daniken's theories of Ancient UFO contactees are indeed no more implausible than their latter- day counterparts. In fact, we have in support of these theories one bona fide, highly reliable eyewitness who saw these creatures disembark who can now describe it: none other than Erich Von Daniken himself! In an exclusive interview with the National Enquirer, Von Daniken tells of his experiences in Point Aleph, "a sort of fourth dimension'" where time doesn't exist. He revealed how he can now leave his body at will, transcending all concepts of space and time. "I know that astronauts visited the earth in ancient times", he confides, because "I was there when the astronauts arrived. And I know they'll be back." Unfortunately for us, he can't say exactly when, since "time doesn't exist in Point Aleph."


http://www.debunker.com/texts/vondanik.html

http://skepdic.com/velikov.html

These three guys sure have a hard-on for aliens from Uranus..........
 passportcharlie

Joined: 12/23/2005
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Earths Chonicles. Religion, Scientist, Historian?.
Posted: 1/12/2006 5:57:49 AM
Who, Carl Sagan?

There is another Viking misfiling story.
Carl Sagan, in his very popular (1980) TV series, "Cosmos," showed pictures of "The pyramids of Elysium" taken by the Mariner 9 mapping of Mars in 1972. This picture is reproduced on page 129 of his book, Cosmos ; and on page 130 he has the following footnote about these Elysium pyramids:
"The largest are 3 kilometers across at the base, and 1 kilometer high -- much larger than the pyramids of Sumer, Egypt or Mexico on Earth. They seem eroded and ancient, and are, perhaps, only small mountains, sandblasted for ages. But they warrant, I think, a careful look." [Sagan]

Sagan was one of the main scientists on the Viking lander team. At the time he made this statement (the book was published in 1980), the Viking orbiters had been imaging Mars for more than two years. Indeed Orbiter 2 had already been shut down, and Orbiter 1 would continue to image Mars only until August 7, 1980. [White]

Note: Orbiter 1 made 1498 orbits of Mars between June 19, 1976, and August 7, 1980, when it finally was shut down. Orbiter 2 made 706 orbits between August 7, 1976 and July 25, 1978, when it was shut down. In both cases, the shutdown was due to the depletion of attitude-control gas [White].

One wonders: had Elysium pictures already been taken by Viking Orbiters by the time Sagan made his Cosmos footnote plea (published in 1980) to re-image these intriguing pyramidal objects?

The Mariner 9 picture of the Elysium pyramids had been taken on February 8, 1972, at 15 degrees N lattitude and 198 degrees W longitude. When Di Pietro and Molinaar searched for the corresponding location picture in the Viking data file in 1980, they found a picture indexed for this location -- but it was not a picture of Elysium. Rather it was a picture of the location -15 degrees (i.e., S) latitude and 200 degrees W longitude. There was no picture of the Elysium pyramids location in the file [Mariner, Hoagland].
 Tsur

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Earths Chonicles. Religion, Scientist, Historian -- CRANK!
Posted: 1/29/2006 9:15:06 PM
Man, Sitchin. And Good old Dr. Velikovsky.

People still take anything either of them said *seriously*.

Velikovsky had Venus being spat out of Jupiter, zooming around the solar system, dropping manna on the Israelites for 40 years, then screaming off to a parking orbit where it stays today.

Apart from violating numerous scientific laws, it's a really funny story.

I mean, the only person I know who ever *seriously* argued in favor of Velikovsky was Ted Holden. A nice guy, admittedly, but a Grade A Classic Crank.

Wow.

'magnetic flux tubes'... ahh... memories.

Where are the Urantia people next?

--R.
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 7
Earths Chonicles. Religion, Scientist, Historian -- CRANK!
Posted: 1/29/2006 11:14:11 PM
Heh heh, .......what did P.T Barnum say was born every minute?
 passportcharlie

Joined: 12/23/2005
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Earths Chonicles. Religion, Scientist, Historian
Posted: 1/30/2006 5:16:12 PM
i am unbiased in this thread, it could be a probability this tread is attempting to sell the famous brige in ny, brooklyn bridge. i got the impression the ny times supported this man as they gave him space in their paper as news.
 late™

Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 9
Earths Chonicles. Religion, Scientist, Historian
Posted: 1/30/2006 5:27:48 PM
Von D. and Dr. V. had supporters too.

Often, scientists would ridicule even the de-bunkers for paying any attention to these guys.

Same with the whole "psychic" thing. Uri Geller is still believed by many to have "powers", even though he was exposed as a fraud by J. Randi and others.

People "need" to believe the "fantastic" sometimes, .......look at this planet, it's no wonder some seek answers in fantasy.
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