| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/12/2006 8:59:54 PM | Where have all of the prophets gone? Seems like the Old Testament was full of prophets
predicting all sorts of bad things and future happenings. Now, we here nothing. The last
recognized prophet was Mohammad @ 570AD. Saint Malachy is not that well recognized, but
he can almost be considered since what he predicted has come true thus far. Makes one
wonder if the ancients really were prophets, or what they said was written after the fact.
In the same vein, we have a silent God. In the Old Testament, he was speaking to everyone
every so often (Moses, Abraham, etc.). Other than Oral Roberts, who said God told him he
would die if he did not raise a few million dollars, there is silence. The last time he was heard from was at Jesus' baptism. He never spoke to His son. Why would He be so quiet after
being so vocal throughout all of the previous centuries. He does not even speak to His
Chosen People. More evidence for an interpretative view of the bible? | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/12/2006 9:04:35 PM |
Where have all of the prophets gone? Seems like the Old Testament was full of prophets
predicting all sorts of bad things and future happenings. Now, we here nothing
They are still around, but deemed "psychics" nowadays, hence "evil and from the devil". | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/12/2006 9:07:18 PM | Where have all the flowers gone
Long time passing
Where have all the flowers gone
Long time ago
I just looked around and they`re gone  | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/12/2006 9:16:03 PM | | God is more vocal now then He ever was in past. The difference is that in past He spoke to a select few, whereas today He speaks to all who believe in Him. | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:02:30 PM | | Jimy, can you provide any verifiable evidence of the claims you are making? Was the insane person that was healed because of you pronounced "sane" by a Medical Doctor trained in psychology or psychiatry? Surely if a person was healed from insanity they would be forever grateful to you and be willing to come here and give a testimony. Any chance of any of this? | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/12/2006 10:11:15 PM | | How about the latter prophet Mohammed?? He spoke for god around 630 AD. We also have Joseph Smith speaking on behalf of god, founding the Mormon religion?? | |
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Posted: 1/12/2006 10:38:52 PM | Jimmy
"have a nice day, and speak in tongues with the fullness of the Spirit of God in you, you will see what I say is true or go look it up yourself."
Jimmy. I already speak in tongues, but I think the natives have it right, I speak with forked tongue.... | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/12/2006 11:54:48 PM | The Prophecies of Mitar Tarabich
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/MitarTarabich.html | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 1:50:18 AM | Now, a real prophet like in the bible will prophecy things to come and some have to happen while he is alive to prove he is real, read about Elijah and he raised the dead and healed leprosy.
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I think you may be refering to Simon that Paul ran into
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I need to go to bed or do something else for a while,
have a nice day, and speak in tongues
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empty your mind with Ron Hubbard | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 3:17:39 AM | Revelation 7-18 The catastrophic
events in Revelation chapters 7-18 are of such a magnitude
and severity that John's vocabulary and descriptive ability
are stretched to the limit. In fact, when you read of a third
of the earth burning, man-killing locusts, a star falling
from heaven, a great red dragon with seven heads and ten
horns, or one hundred pound hailstones falling from heaven,
you may be tempted to think John has not just been stretched,
but that he is hallucinating.
He isn't. He is describing in terms and images familiar to
him things no man has ever witnessed. Think of it this way.
How difficult might it have been for someone in Jesus' day to
describe putting a man on the moon, or the flight of the
space shuttle? Or how about that same person explaining how a
surgeon uses a laser in eye surgery, or how he replaces a
valve on the human heart? Or even how music is placed on a
small silver disc and then comes out very loud from black
boxes with tiny holes?
You see, Revelation is "apocalyptic" literature and as such
is characterized by symbolic language, terrifying visions,
dreadful judgments. Everything is of titanic proportions.
John's dictionary may be limited as he describes the
consummation of history, but all of time and creation will
end just as he describes . . . he has gotten every detail
down pat. | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 8:44:20 AM |
Rayl,
Try this on for size,
I prophecied that princess Dianna would be murdered 3 or 4 months before hand, and I had my friend George put it on the internet and I wrote and told some people.
I prophecied a rictor 8 earth quake and the date and it happened but it was 200 miles under Portland but it did hit the nightly new not me prophecing down town but the actual event.
My friend George was taken to heaven and watched the two Iraqi wars 7 years even before the first one and interceded so that many would get saved and it happened.
The next big event an out pouring of the Holy SPirit in Portland that no one can stop with healings.
Now, get this my friend Sam raises the dead, actually the Holy SPirit does it, but He likes Sam to be there when it happens.
Oh ya, and many people healed by the Holy Spirit when Sam is there.
and, get a book Smith Wiggelsworth, John G. Lake and Charles Price, about a 100 years ago healed the sick, cast out demons, and raised the dead, and healed whole bubonic plague collonies in Africa. and John Lake was invited to a sorerers convenion from all over the world, and when he walk in being the last speaker he went up front and snapped his fingers and said, all demonic activity stop in the name of Jesus, and the levitators fell to the floor, the snake people stood up, and then he got them to surrender their lives to Jesus, nice.
Oh, ya, I hate to talk so much about my self but I have gone into mental institutions and Jesus has set many free of insanity while I was there.
I don't have time to go on, but Jesus is well and alive inside his prophets and apostles after all they have been chosen to run the church and given the mystery of Christ!!!!!!!!
1 Cor 12:28-29
28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.
Eph 3:4-6
you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ),5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets:
I hope I haven't waken you from your sleep,
Jimmy
Oh, yes, speak in tongues all the time and you may actually meet a prophet or apostle
I don't think you speak in any tongues and nor do your claims have any valid base and evidence. Provide us some valid reference so that we will believe you.
Good luck next time. 
I read about mohammed a book by a Jesuit or exjesuit and he said Mohammed actually foamed at the mouth in an epleptic seisure, and his cousin a coptic priest would try to translate his visions, now, I'm sure there a Muslims looking for truth, so they won't be offended but Jesus cast the spirit of epelepsi out of a child in the Gospels.
Please, I wll be as kind as possible, but Joseph Smith was a Mason as was the founders of Jehovah's wittnessism, don't masons take an oath to lucifer at 30 degrees?
Now, a real prophet like in the bible will prophecy things to come and some have to happen while he is alive to prove he is real, read about Elijah and he raised the dead and healed leprosy.
Look, people the only book I know of that has transendental phenomina is the Hebrew Scriptures, and now you can go to Ron Wyatt's web sight Wyatt Archeological Research and see (I met this man personally several times and he has the spirit of God in Him), the chariots under the Red Sea where Moses left them , the Arch on Mt Ararat, Sodom and Gomorah with the sulpher still imbedded in the walls, The Arch the Levites carried in the wilderness, ect....
I need to go to bed or do something else for a while,
have a nice day, and speak in tongues with the fullness of the Spirit of God in you, you will see what I say is true or go look it up yourself.
Jimmy
Anyone could write a book and claim something just to make it popular so that it will be considered "Best Seller". We all could be writing books about everyone that we would like to and keep on talking about it.
Even though your claim of his cousin writing the vision is baseless, but at least they don't have any confusion regarding God. Their claim is much stronger when it comes to believing in ONE God than Jews and or Christians. Nor do they break the commandments by placing "graven images" in the church.
Jesus has constantly claimed that the father is greater than him:
"…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
[The Bible, Mathew 12:28]
"…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
[The Bible, Luke 11:20]
"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]
The above verses clearly indicate that he has got no power as the spirit of the father up there helped Jesus cure the ill and cast out the devils. The concept of Trinity doesn't apply either as there is no direct verse in the Bible where Trinity is mentioned. | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 8:52:23 AM | If Jesus was talking about a fig tree and only mentioned the branches, leaves and fruit, but didn`t name the actual name, then would a fig tree be non existant?
Is a rose by any other name not still a rose.? | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 9:06:52 AM |
I prophecied that princess Dianna would be murdered 3 or 4 months before hand, and I had my friend George put it on the internet and I wrote and told some people. Jimy, I would like to know more about your prophesy. Exactly what was said? Did your friend record what you said word for word, or do you remember it still? | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 11:17:52 AM | | The only prophets that founded widely accepted religions are Jesus and Mohammed. One was a prophet of peace (Jesus) and Mohammed used violence to start and spread his religion. Mohammed waged wars between 622 AD and 632... | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 3:58:50 PM |
The only prophets that founded widely accepted religions are Jesus and Mohammed. One was a prophet of peace (Jesus) and Mohammed used violence to start and spread his religion. Mohammed waged wars between 622 AD and 632...
When you claim something, please provide some evidence to back it up. Provide some verses from their Koran so that we will believe you. Did you forget the witch trials, Spanish Inquisition and Crusades?
“When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)
“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deuteronomy 20:10-17)
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)
Even in the New Testament we read the following statements attributed to Jesus saying to his disciples:
“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)
"Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:34-35)
The whole reason that some denominations don't use the Old Testament is because of the judgemental and warring verses. That is why they have been playing around with words of God for centuries. lol. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 4:05:30 PM | "When you claim something, please provide some evidence to back it up. Provide some verses from their Koran so that we will believe you"
Its a matter of historical fact, google will provide you with all the sources you need.. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 4:09:53 PM | "When you claim something, please provide some evidence to back it up. Provide some verses from their Koran so that we will believe you. Did you forget the witch trials, Spanish Inquisition and Crusades?"
huh ...? witch trials, Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades produced prophets that founded widely accepted religions? Can you please provide some evidence to back this up? Also listing verses from scriptures out of context does not provide evidence. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 4:12:09 PM | the age of grace is in affect until Jesus comes again with His army if resurrected believers to bring in the age of angels
ISA 14: 12-14( DISPENSATION of ANGELS )
How art thou fallen from heaven oh Lucifer, son of the morning, how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, I will sit upon the throne of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Ezek 28: 11-17
Moreover the Word of the Lord came to me saying.......etc | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 4:16:51 PM |
"When you claim something, please provide some evidence to back it up. Provide some verses from their Koran so that we will believe you"
Its a matter of historical fact, google will provide you with all the sources you need..
You can google anything, but when you talk in forums, you back up your own claim. You don't give us google to search on. hehehee. | |
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 4:23:57 PM |
huh ...? witch trials, Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades produced prophets that founded widely accepted religions? Can you please provide some evidence to back this up? Also listing verses from scriptures out of context does not provide evidence.
It is history. You gotta brush up on that. I will give you some links that will help you though:
Crusades: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm
Witch Trials: http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/witchhistory.html
Spanish Inquisition: http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Dossier/1112-96/article2.html | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 4:31:38 PM | "You can google anything, but when you talk in forums, you back up your own claim. You don't give us google to search on. hehehee. "
Here is a site for sore eyes, one of many on the Battle of the Ditch ( I wonder if this is where the term trench warfare came from?)
L-ISLAAH PUBLICATIONS
Battle of the Trench
THE BATTLE OF THE DITCH:
The Battle of the Ditch took place in Shawwal 5 A.H. It was a decisive battle but it presented to the Muslims grave trials that they had not previously experienced. Allah says in the Qur'an:
When they came against you from above you and from below you, and when your eyes swerved and your hearts reached your throats, and you thought thoughts about Allah; there it was that the believers were tried, and shaken most mightily. (33: 11)
The Jews instigated these hostilities. People from the Banu'n-Nadir and the Banu Wa'il went to the Quraysh in Makkah, calling on them to fight the Messenger(sallallahu alaiyhi wassallam) of Allah. The Quraysh who had already experienced war with the Prophet were reluctant to get involved again.
I can't post the link because the site has advertising, which I beleive is not allowed here but google the battle and you will find the facts.. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 4:39:51 PM | When they came against you from above you and from below you, and when your eyes swerved and your hearts reached your throats, and you thought thoughts about Allah; there it was that the believers were tried, and shaken most mightily. (33: 11)
Are you telling us that the verse has dictated the war? If so, you are wrong 'cause it talks about the war.
Thanks for proving the point in your further explanation in your post. So it is pretty clear that the Jewish group started a plan to attack the Muslims, which means that the Muslims had to denfend themselves. Therefore, it was right for them to defend themselves. I don't see any Muslims there attacking them first. Anyone would do the same thing when it comes to self defense. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 4:46:19 PM | "One was a prophet of peace (Jesus) and Mohammed used violence to start and spread his religion. Mohammed waged wars between 622 AD and 632..."
This was my original post earlier. My point was that Jesus took part neither started wars whereas the post I gave you shows that Mohammed did participate in wars..The historical facts are there for any with an open mind..
Please show me which battles Jesus fought in, in fact show me any battles that any of the Old Testament prophets fought in... | |
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Posted: 1/13/2006 4:53:56 PM |
"One was a prophet of peace (Jesus) and Mohammed used violence to start and spread his religion. Mohammed waged wars between 622 AD and 632..."
This was my original post earlier. My point was that Jesus took part neither started wars whereas the post I gave you shows that Mohammed did participate in wars..The historical facts are there for any with an open mind..
Please show me which battles Jesus fought in, in fact show me any battles that any of the Old Testament prophets fought in...
Your point clearly indicates that Muhammad used violence to start and spread his religion, but your claim shows that he only used it as self-defense though. Aren't you contradicting yourself?
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| Prophets and a Silent God
Posted: 1/13/2006 5:24:26 PM | | Actually my point was that Jesus was a prophet of peace, whereas Mohammed was a man of war. Jesus involved himself in no war, Mohammed did, can you prove otherwise.? | |
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