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 rdb8375

Joined: 1/15/2006
Msg: 1
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/15/2006 9:00:03 PM
as a wise man once said: U get a medal in the army for killing, but at home go to jail for giving someone an orgasm. Maybe its illegal because the country dosent make profit of it they cant take taxes out of thier earnings. I meam cmon giving an orgasm isnt a crime.
 JacksSmerkingRevenge

Joined: 4/16/2005
Msg: 2
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/15/2006 9:13:03 PM
I think anything between two or more consenting adults should be legal. For everyone that argues for "morals" never seem to think about the moral problems with enforcing rules upon people that don't require the same moral system that they do.
 Frrosty

Joined: 3/21/2004
Msg: 3
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/15/2006 10:40:14 PM
*shrugs*

I'm all for the "yes" camp here.



 derek73x

Joined: 1/9/2006
Msg: 4
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/15/2006 11:38:19 PM
I fell that either way your paying for it. If you take a woman out a few times for dinner,movie buy her flowers,hell maybe even a car or something to get in her pants your paying for "it"
 lazyboy

Joined: 11/3/2005
Msg: 5
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/15/2006 11:49:16 PM
It's illegal because the price to pay for putting a price on human dignity is
too high: ie: women are objectified, raped, children are molested, humanity
is sexualized (forcefully or voluntarily). It's simplicitic to say there are no
victims.

Next time if you pick up a prostitute please remember: She is someone's
daughter (could be mine!). If you support prostitutions then perhaps
you should encourage your mom and sister into that vocation...or even
better, why not sign up yourself?

Most prostitutes will tell you they don't want to be there. How does it
feel BUYING sex from someone who wouldn't give you the time of day
under any other circumstances, and now she's forced to sex you for
money? Hmmmm...very impressive there, stud.

 That Guy Him

Joined: 12/8/2005
Msg: 6
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 12:35:51 AM

women are objectified, raped, children are molested, humanity
is sexualized

All these things happen outside of prostitution as well.

Most prostitutes will tell you they don't want to be there.

That's the very reason why you legalize it. That way the only people who are involved are people who actually want to be there. The pimps are the ones who put the women and children out there who don't want to be there.
 WorldCitizen

Joined: 11/4/2005
Msg: 7
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 8:25:15 AM
I think it's immoral for the state to sanction people having to have sex for money. Since we all have to work and since prostitution would be the prostitute's "job", what would we tell a waitress, a secretary (or a CEO!) if she got layed off and her unemployment ran out?

A state employment counselor would have to say "Look, I know of five massage parlors right out here on the street that are BEGGING for girls. DON'T TELL ME YOU CAN'T FIND WORK!"

I don't believe sex belongs in the legitimized sector of the economy.
 rdb8375

Joined: 1/15/2006
Msg: 8
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 8:30:34 AM
you guys are kinda getting of the point why is it legal to give it away but illegal to sell it?
like i said if you kill someone you get a medal in the army but go to jail for an orgasm. That dosent make sense.
 very hard

Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 9
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should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 8:45:17 AM
As far as I am aware prostitution is legal in most nations. The objection is usually to advertising on the streets and pimps living off immoral earnings.

Let's face it. A shag will be delivered to your door if you have a credit card.
 beachcomberbenn

Joined: 12/29/2005
Msg: 10
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 9:27:45 AM
Prostitution is legal. We are going to the polls in Nov. to decide which ones will be going to DC to represent us.
 dmotz39

Joined: 3/19/2005
Msg: 11
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 9:59:12 AM
Benn......
"Prostitution is legal. We are going to the polls in Nov. to decide which ones will be going to DC to represent us."

You got that right! They can also go to Nevada...prostitution is legal there!
 lazyboy

Joined: 11/3/2005
Msg: 12
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 10:12:39 AM
Still, those that try to rationalize the legitimacy of prostitution
are generally the ones that A) don't want to discuss having their own
family members enlist in that vocation B) were abused
in one form or another likely by a family member. Myself, I would
never date a prostitute or encourage any member of my family to be one.

If you think it's ok then everything I just stated should sound like bunk to you
and you'd be ok with it.
 rdb8375

Joined: 1/15/2006
Msg: 13
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 10:24:27 AM
so answer the question if its legal to give away then why is it illegal to sell?
 porphyro

Joined: 1/11/2006
Msg: 14
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 11:13:53 AM
My question would be: is it illegal to sell sexual services, or illegal to buy them, or both? How often does the John get arrested and charged and convicted? I would venture far less than the woman does! If a woman is selling, but no one is buying, is it prostitution? And if a man is out looking to buy, but no one is selling, is he guilty of anything? Legally, I suppose an over-eager DA could try to make a case for soliciting for prostitution in either instance where the actual monetary transaction is not completed. And does money have to change hands in order for the act to be criminalized? Or can anything of agreed value be exchanged? If the latter, how then do we differentiate prostitution from marriage?

Most civilized nations, I believe, have legalized prostitution in one form or another, as has the State of Nevada. And in some of those countries, prostitutes are required to be examined medically every so many months to make certain they are not infected with STD's and/or AIDS.
 porphyro

Joined: 1/11/2006
Msg: 15
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 11:17:49 AM
dmotz and benn:^^^^^

You are both right on with regard to elected whores in DC. And considering the size of some of the campaign contributions, these guys and gals we elect not only screw their constituents, but the Johns who buy their votes actually get kissed as well.
 Startwearingpurple

Joined: 6/16/2005
Msg: 16
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 11:45:10 AM
It should definately because it will exist whether legal or not. Why not at least ensure a proper working environment for those involved while subjecting them to regular health tests, other examinations, have psychologists and other health care professionals at their disposal, etc. In Holland I believe prostitutes pay taxes etc.

The only crime is forcing those involved to be taken advantage of by the situations that subjected them to enter the prosfession and to let them have sex with men while their untested and willing to do all kind of things...
 lazyboy

Joined: 11/3/2005
Msg: 17
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 3:39:41 PM
Legalizing prostitution will not see an end to street-level hookers. The
one's on the street will again be the junkie-HIV-positive-hooker's. They'd
be the 11 & 12 year olds. LOL - thought the street's would be cleaned up?
Legalized prostitution is here in the form of 'Escort' services. So, the
question is what is legalizing it gonna do? Amsterdam is a sewer - let me
tell you. I was there in 2002 and took the stroll down the red district; talk
about UGLY HOOKER'S!...Amsterdam would be charming on it's own but right
smack dab in the middle of Amsterdam is the red district with hookers learing
at you from the display window - how embarrassing!
 JacksSmerkingRevenge

Joined: 4/16/2005
Msg: 18
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 3:52:00 PM
If you don't like hookers why were you in the Red Light District of Amsterdam? Did you expect to find a bake sale?
 raverdad

Joined: 11/10/2004
Msg: 19
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Posted: 1/16/2006 4:12:01 PM
Prostitution is legal. Just make sur eshe is over 18 and ahve her sign a disclaimer and film the act.Then it's art.
 serendipitee

Joined: 9/5/2005
Msg: 20
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 5:00:21 PM
k, i stopped reading at lazyboyz post


It's illegal because the price to pay for putting a price on human dignity is
too high: ie: women are objectified, raped, children are molested, humanity
is sexualized (forcefully or voluntarily). It's simplicitic to say there are no
victims.

Next time if you pick up a prostitute please remember: She is someone's
daughter (could be mine!). If you support prostitutions then perhaps
you should encourage your mom and sister into that vocation...or even
better, why not sign up yourself?

Most prostitutes will tell you they don't want to be there. How does it
feel BUYING sex from someone who wouldn't give you the time of day
under any other circumstances, and now she's forced to sex you for
money? Hmmmm...very impressive there, stud.


Great post lazy!!!!!
 lazyboy

Joined: 11/3/2005
Msg: 21
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 6:00:18 PM
If you don't like hookers why were you in the Red Light District....


Read my post carefully; the district is dead centre of Amsterdam. You get off the train
you took from the airport and almost immediately you see the Red Light district - stark
in the middle of town!! It's the first impression you get of the city - after that, a few
steps ahead are the drug cafe's and stores sellling marijuana; and the loser's who stand
around smoking up. Very charming.

@serendipity: thank you
 porphyro

Joined: 1/11/2006
Msg: 22
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 7:17:40 PM
seredipitee:

what a wonderful attitude---stop at lazy's post as if it were the be all and end all of the thread. Great evidence of an open mind. First of all, lazy's post is not only filled with non-sequiturs, it is equally filled with unsupported assertions and just plain idiotic statements.

Unsupported: "Most prostitutes will tell you they don't want to be there." (Where is the documentation to prove that point? Has lazy interviewed most prostitutes?)

Non sequitur: "If you support prostitutions (does he mean legalized prostitution or just prostitutes----I cannot tell from his abuse of the English language), then perhaps
you should encourage your mom and sister into that vocation...or even better, why not sign up yourself?" (Please tell me how supporting the legalization of prostitution means encouraging "your mom and sister into that vocation..." or signing up yourself?)

Idiotic statement: "She is someone's daughter (could be mine!)." Is lazy such a lousy father that he raised his daughter so that she would be a prostitute? Or does he just wish she were so he could get his vicarious kicks that way?

Serendipitee: I had read some of your other posts and had such high hopes for you that you might be a bright shining light on the forums. But here you turned out to be a major disappointment.
 JacksSmerkingRevenge

Joined: 4/16/2005
Msg: 23
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 7:23:36 PM
serendipitee? I'm just going to assume your screwing with lazyboyz head.

lazyboy, my point is the Red Light District is what Amsterdam is known for. If you already have preconceived notions about the issues of the district, why did you expect to see anything different?
 annikav

Joined: 11/23/2005
Msg: 24
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 7:47:35 PM
oh layzyboyz... really???

take yourself out of that deeply naive place about prostitution. what makes you think all prostitutes are practicing their trade just to support a drug habit or to run away from an awful home situation? perhaps if it was a legitimate vocation you wouldn't have such backward views of sex, and of sex for money.

and you're offended because you saw some ugly prostitutes in amsterdam? one more reason why cheap airfares should be abolished, i guess. there are many women in the world who make a very good living off prosititution, and it's not due to drugs, repression or anything else you have conjured up in your view of the world.

and derek73x.... yikes. if that's how you view the dating world, then good luck buddy... you'll need it.
 lazyboy

Joined: 11/3/2005
Msg: 25
should prostitution be legal?
Posted: 1/16/2006 10:33:21 PM
I suggest you read the following link:

http://www.prostitutionresearch.com/factsheet.html

#2 my friends are RCMP officer's and will tell you that from experience.

And please don't make any assumptions of where my facts are coming from
as I myself have worked with the RCMP in some compacity.

Now the link is from an American site and I can pull up many more Canadian
sites set up by former prostitutes who will tell you and educate you
on where these girls come from. But it's up to you to believe these girls
or dismiss them.

@anikav: I"m not sure what your profession is: "living off the avails of something"????
But let me say this...if it's what I think it is...ummmmm....GOOD LUCK with finding
a man!
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