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 Calvinray
Joined: 1/13/2006
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There is a new idea that a man who is accompanied by an attractive platonic female friend suddenly becomes more attractive to women. So much so that a new business has arisen where men pay women 50 dollars an hour to go out on the town with them and help these men score introductions to other women.

Someone please give me your thoughts one this phenomena:
Is this similar to the wedding ring legend? (A man who has already earned another womant's trust is more trustworthy?)

Would you women who are out there be willing to serve as a "wingwoman" for your platonic male friends.

Could it be that the fact that my best friend is an attractive young woman is an asset that I've underrated?

Your thoughts please.
 Pandy
Joined: 11/11/2006
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Posted: 1/18/2006 5:47:20 PM
I'd be a wingwoman for any of my male friends...and I could give interested ladies honest positive recommendations :)

I don't think I'd think more favorably of a man just because he had a pretty friend....but I can't speak for all women. It would be a plus if the friend were someone I knew, who could give me a character reference for him
 LiteUrFire
Joined: 12/2/2005
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Posted: 1/18/2006 5:55:01 PM
Personally pandy I would encourage a reference from that platonic friend. smiles softly
 fadetoblackfadetoblack
Joined: 4/23/2005
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wingwomen: Does a platonic female friend boost attraction.
Posted: 1/18/2006 6:00:01 PM
This is nothing new !!! women know that if you are with someone that you are there for a reason and thay want to know why ! and even more when you are avrage and the girl you are with is a true 10 !!!
 watts2525
Joined: 12/21/2005
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Posted: 1/18/2006 6:01:47 PM
my best friend in high school was a guy - and whenever we went to the mall or walked around, he was always checked out by girls - much more than when he was alone (or so he told me).

I always thought it was very strange, myself.
 brawnydog
Joined: 8/17/2005
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Posted: 1/18/2006 6:02:52 PM

So much so that a new business has arisen where men pay women 50 dollars an hour to go out on the town with them and help these men score introductions to other women.


It's not new. It's called an escort service. And if you hire one....then
you go try to pick up chic's because you wanna get laid...
it basically means that you prolly shouldn't be in charge of your own finances.

moo
 MellyBabez
Joined: 8/8/2005
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wingwomen: Does a platonic female friend boost attraction.
Posted: 1/18/2006 6:06:06 PM
It works that way for women too.
Women can go out with hot guy friends, and other men try to get with them, more so than if they were alone.

Forbidden fruit always tastes better.
 fadetoblackfadetoblack
Joined: 4/23/2005
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Posted: 1/18/2006 6:08:30 PM
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO true mellybabez !!!!
 LiteUrFire
Joined: 12/2/2005
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Posted: 1/18/2006 6:16:03 PM
Ok so whos for going out then? hehehe j/k (uhmmm I think lol)
 bobbyritmo
Joined: 1/15/2006
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Posted: 1/18/2006 6:22:54 PM
My lady friends and I have been doing it for each other since college. Works like a charm both ways. Lots of fun and breaks the ice. :) lol
 HarDayKnight
Joined: 12/27/2007
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Posted: 2/15/2011 3:46:58 PM
It works best if said wingwoman is attractive and expresses interest in the man for herself. I've had female friends who didn't believe this would work. As an experiment, they would make favorable comments about me in the company of other women. Invariably, I would be approached by multiple women without an effort from myself to get their attention. Women are competitive. Hell... They don't really even doll themselves up for us guys. It's a competition of sorts with other women. If one attractive woman wants you... Others will, too. Paying for the service is a little weird; but, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
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Posted: 2/15/2011 6:15:11 PM
ya, he does better with a wing woman in general....NOT with an obvious ""platonic" wingwoman per se.

that makes the guy look desparate.

hell, I had a buddy one time (who had absolutely zero game) actually hire a professional wingwoman (ie- a hooker) to accompany him to the bar posing as his girl...

he cleaned up that night with the one he wanted...
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
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Posted: 2/15/2011 7:28:19 PM
It works best if said wingwoman is attractive and expresses interest in the man for herself. I've had female friends who didn't believe this would work. As an experiment, they would make favorable comments about me in the company of other women. Invariably, I would be approached by multiple women without an effort from myself to get their attention.

Although I believe that is probably true for many women, (maybe many men, too), I'm rather amazed that it is. I'm not sure I would want to date someone who was dumb enough to think like that and be so easily manipulated. I guess it's a good strategy for getting laid, though.
 HarDayKnight
Joined: 12/27/2007
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Posted: 2/15/2011 8:09:13 PM

Although I believe that is probably true for many women, (maybe many men, too), I'm rather amazed that it is. I'm not sure I would want to date someone who was dumb enough to think like that and be so easily manipulated. I guess it's a good strategy for getting laid, though.



It's more common than you'd think, and no real tell of character. Gaining a woman's interest this way is really no different than her reacting to a smile, a clever comment, or any other stirring impetus. The only real difference is that you controlled the stimulus.

Besides, capturing someone's attention is not the same as keeping it.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
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Posted: 2/15/2011 9:31:14 PM

It's more common than you'd think, and no real tell of character. Gaining a woman's interest this way is really no different than her reacting to a smile, a clever comment, or any other stirring impetus.

In real life dating, I've never understood that sort of thing either. When women smile at me, I just assume they're being polite. In general, the women I've dated were mostly the result of being in the right place at the right time and hitting it off in a conversation. If there was any sort of attention getting process involved, I was totally oblivious to it. I always thought of those trite comments and other ``signalling'' that is supposedly all part of having ``game'' as an insult to a woman's intelligence. I'm sure a lot of that shit works. I just don't see how an intelligent person would not know if he/she is interested in someone, independent of what anyone else is doing and not also appreciate expressing that interest directly.

Besides, capturing someone's attention is not the same as keeping it.

I've never noticed a difference. It's possible that I'm just oblivious to having captured a woman's attention unless she's obviously going out of her way to spend time talking to me one-on-one or that I only capture a woman's interest through a more personal conversation than one can have by walking up to a woman at a bar.
 BoonDockSaint73
Joined: 3/29/2010
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Posted: 2/15/2011 9:42:50 PM

In real life dating, I've never understood that sort of thing either


well, if you're at the club and attempting to attract a woman via another woman....seriously...are you really looking for a wife?

nope.

you're just looking to get laid because your own closing skills are lacking.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
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Posted: 2/15/2011 10:04:10 PM

well, if you're at the club and attempting to attract a woman via another woman....seriously...are you really looking for a wife?

I don't go to clubs and I would certainly not consider a club to be a good place to look for sex - on several levels.
 HarDayKnight
Joined: 12/27/2007
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Posted: 2/16/2011 5:39:22 AM

In real life dating, I've never understood that sort of thing either. When women smile at me, I just assume they're being polite. In general, the women I've dated were mostly the result of being in the right place at the right time and hitting it off in a conversation. If there was any sort of attention getting process involved, I was totally oblivious to it. I always thought of those trite comments and other ``signalling'' that is supposedly all part of having ``game'' as an insult to a woman's intelligence. I'm sure a lot of that shit works. I just don't see how an intelligent person would not know if he/she is interested in someone, independent of what anyone else is doing and not also appreciate expressing that interest directly.


Being oblivious doesn't remove the fact that you did something to gain her attention. Or she yours. You seem to be reading something into my comments that isn't there.


I've never noticed a difference. It's possible that I'm just oblivious to having captured a woman's attention unless she's obviously going out of her way to spend time talking to me one-on-one or that I only capture a woman's interest through a more personal conversation than one can have by walking up to a woman at a bar.


Don't know what you're going on about. You seem to have complicated a very simple concept.
 m_church
Joined: 11/8/2007
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Posted: 2/16/2011 7:02:53 AM

When women smile at me, I just assume they're being polite.

As far as my own experiences, I assume the same thing...
People get into trouble or act like idiots or basically deter the woman by assuming a smile is more than just a smile... Most smiles are not come-ons and the few that are, are best handled by being polite anyway... Being polite and friendly gets people a lot further than acting like a desperate puppy just because they got smiled at...
 MsMicki
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Posted: 2/16/2011 7:35:06 AM
This makes no sense to me........but I personally don't focus my attentions on any
man that is already with a woman.
And any man that is already with a woman in a club....and tries to give me attention.....gets labeled in my mind as a player/cheater.

I wonder at the mentality of wanting a woman - that wants another woman's man.
 happybunny8
Joined: 4/16/2010
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Posted: 2/16/2011 8:03:47 AM
Me and a couple of male friends used to hit the club regularly together. We wouldn't always go home with each other. Note however that we never thought that hanging out would guarantee us meeting someone and we didn't use it as a ploy. We were part of a large group and just hung out together. Sure, sometimes we'd introduce each other to people we knew, but it was never outwardly done as a pickup move, rather than a group of folks just hanging out having a beer enjoying the music and social scene.

I used to hang out at the bar all the time, I could go alone as well because I knew the bar staff. We were regulars.

I never approached a guy if I saw him with another woman. I too wonder at the mentality of anyone doing that.

I was in a bar about a year ago. There were 2 women and 2 men and we all stood together at a table. Some guy came up and ground himself into my butt. The rules of this type of dancing are that you do not do it uninvited. I also didn't get how he could not have thought we were two couples. Not only crass but stupid to boot. To be honest that rarely happened to me when I was younger - one would expect more from an older set. And people wonder why I talk about the lack of class today. Yet another example why I now prefer to pick up men as opposed to the other way around. Anyhoo, a little off topic there.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
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Posted: 2/16/2011 12:25:44 PM
Don't know what you're going on about. You seem to have complicated a very simple concept.

I'm just addressing the comments that were made in response to my original comment about not understanding how the attention of a woman can make a guy more attractive to other women. I'll admit that it is often probably true, but the reasoning escapes me. I'm either attracted to a woman or I'm not, independent of whether or not I notice other guys chatting her up or whatever. If someone were to drop a comment, like ``She's hot,'' I'd agree if I thought she was and probably just say ``meh,'' if I didn't agree. I didn't see how your answer explained why a wingwoman ought to work except perhaps with certain types of women.

If anything, other guys chatting her up just means looking for the best opportunity to talk to her and find out if she's dating anyone, not an incentive to become interested in her. Although the idea of having a wingwoman obviously works well enough for people to create businesses based on the concept, I'd have to wonder about the women that it works on since the idea seems to require a certain inability to think logically and make one's own mind up about who one finds attractive. It would seem to exploit the idea of gaining status and personal worth though association with someone that others find desirable. It would be more interesting to figure out if the woman on whom this scheme works have specific attributes that this exploits, like insecurity.

As a side note, I had a female friend who apparently thought the same thing in that she was always wanting me to go out to clubs around campus with her so she could meet guys. It apparently worked, but I never understood why it worked, especially given that she always played up being ``with me'' to a greater extent than out friendship would warrant.
 HarDayKnight
Joined: 12/27/2007
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Posted: 2/16/2011 1:13:45 PM

I'd have to wonder about the women that it works on since the idea seems to require a certain inability to think logically and make one's own mind up about who one finds attractive. It would seem to exploit the idea of gaining status and personal worth though association with someone that others find desirable. It would be more interesting to figure out if the woman on whom this scheme works have specific attributes that this exploits, like insecurity.


You can't try to understand women from a man's perspective. I don't claim to understand them... Not as a whole, nor those I have known intimately. We have more in common than not, but that little bit of difference can be very frustrating if you try to rationalize it.
 ktori
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Posted: 2/25/2011 5:18:27 PM
My BF swears this is true, and I agree. Psychologists call it "social proof."
 ForeverLong
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Posted: 2/25/2011 9:41:45 PM
Yes, when a woman observes a man with another woman she thinks he might not be a total creep and may be a worthwile catch. That is a form of "social proof".
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