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 essaress

Joined: 11/17/2005
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/18/2006 6:18:22 PM
A book compiled in the 1600's thought to be "The Word of God" as opposed to other books that may or may not have been examined and rejected for inclusion ....???
Who,(besides the King) had final editing and exclusion authority over the publication??/
And what did the King know that makes his judgement then to be considered today to be the WORD OF GOD???
I understand that he was extremely educated..I understand that he was very devout (but not Catholic) ...I understand all that....
What I dont understand is how this State Sponsored effort in an era 400 years removed from modern times and thought is still held up as definitive, and generally purported to be the only accurate rendition of the "Holy Texts"...
What I am pointing to here is the obvious...it was a work comissioned by a man, and the actual work performed by men, and the final ,"Thats The Final Product" stamp of approval was given by a man...
So where is the Word Of God, Inspired by God , but written by man part????
 CountIbli

Joined: 6/1/2005
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/18/2006 8:47:58 PM
The KJV is known to have problems. For instance, after is was published some early manuscripts of the Bible were found. It turns out that the later texts that the KJV used contained numerous errors. Generally these are fairly minor, but anyone who claims that the KJV is the best has simply not researched the question.
 himwhoscallediam

Joined: 1/17/2006
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/18/2006 8:55:04 PM
sea of red and sea of reeds is the biggest mistake I have found in any relgious text yet but it is still minor, just making the deed seem larger then it was.
 robert_paulson

Joined: 7/28/2005
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/18/2006 9:17:57 PM
What I dont understand is how this State Sponsored effort in an era 400 years removed from modern times and thought is still held up as definitive, and generally purported to be the only accurate rendition of the "Holy Texts"...


I think you are mistaken. The KJV is certainly revered among Christians, but it is not generally purported to be the only accurate rendition of the holy texts. In fact the "King James Only" faction of Christianity is an extremely small group.

PS, I completely agree with Count Ibln's post.
 RDtoo

Joined: 1/30/2005
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Posted: 1/18/2006 9:21:46 PM
Um, not trying to be sarcastic Essaress, but weren't you supposed to learn all that when you were a Minister?
 Philosophers Stone

Joined: 7/11/2005
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Posted: 1/18/2006 10:07:04 PM

In fact the "King James Only" faction of Christianity is an extremely small group.


Perhaps an extremely small group among educated Christians, but if you take Christians as a whole, its a pretty hefty percentage in my experience.
 essaress

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Posted: 1/18/2006 10:19:50 PM

Um, not trying to be sarcastic Essaress, but weren't you supposed to learn all that when you were a Minister?


Oh.... you're Not Trying to be sarcastic???? So it just happens???
I am unsure of what your specific question is supposed to be here...
Please feel free to Enlighten Me...I am here to learn...
 robert_paulson

Joined: 7/28/2005
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/18/2006 10:30:51 PM
Info. The KJV is not officially used by the Catholic Church, and is only sort of used by the Orthodox Church who prefer the Revised Standard Version.

There is a minority of Protestant Fundamentalists who are King James Onlyists ( yes, I know I am torturing the English language) but they are so rare that I have never actually met one, and I was raised in a Plymouth Breathern Assembly so I have first hand knowledge of some pretty conservative Christianity. KJV only is on the fringe of the fringe.
 Philosophers Stone

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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/18/2006 11:20:20 PM
Not from my experience. The handy majority of staunch Christianity down here in the bible belt are KJV thumpers. (Referring to mostly CoC, Baptists, and some Methodists.)
 essaress

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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/19/2006 4:31:18 PM
I cant tell you the number of lay-people,..or Ordained Ministers that confer with the KJV whenever there is a question...I couldnt begin to tell you the numbers of folks both here in the States and Mexico...not to mention Japan...that consider it to be the actual.factual, completely definitive .."last word" type of publication...
Sure there are numerous "versions " available ...but they are all of them "translations" of the KJV...
Adaptations, re-interpretations...whatever...still KJV...
 Peterdulux

Joined: 11/5/2005
Msg: 11
Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/19/2006 6:14:55 PM
Have you ever heard og Gail Riplinger? She spent 6 years going through the many different versions of the bible and can to the conclusion that the KJV is the most accurate based on the manuscripts from which they were translated. She wrote a book called ' New Age Bible Versions' Take a look at some of the stuff and see if it helps you.

Always remember, God will preserve his word. We need to be discerning through His Spirit, to know which version to use...
 essaress

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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/19/2006 6:57:50 PM
Name sounds familiar,..I would have to pull out books and sermons packed away for twenty years to look it up ...not gonna...heheh...
Are you telling us the the KJV is the Most Accurate???
 RDtoo

Joined: 1/30/2005
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/19/2006 10:04:47 PM
Yes. The KJV is the version Jesus carried.
 The Right Reverend

Joined: 1/11/2006
Msg: 14
Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/20/2006 12:31:35 AM
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 RhiannonXX7

Joined: 11/17/2004
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/20/2006 10:36:35 AM
"Yes. The KJV is the version Jesus carried." ^^^
 essaress

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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/20/2006 11:37:17 AM

Yes. The KJV is the version Jesus carried.

Funny side story about the KJV and it being the version Jesus carried....
Texas has the distinction of being the First State (I know but its true) to elect a Woman Governor...
Back in the 1920's ...folks in Wyoming might disagree but their lady gov was succeding her late hubby...
So,..."Ma" Ferguson as she was know.. was asked at some point in her term ,"Do we need Bi-Lingual" school books for the immigrant school children we are educating in Texas schools...?""
Her response was a very firm (while holding up a KJV ),"If the english language was good enough for Jesus- then it will be good enough for these kids I suppose!!"...
I dont know if she was being serious but I suspect it was exactly what she meant...heheh
So, even back then the KJV was considered to be the "Rule" and every other is a copy, adaptation, interpretation,..etc...
 RDtoo

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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/21/2006 1:50:10 AM
I also have on good authority that contrary to popular belief Rock and Roll is not of the devil, but Hip-hop most assuredly is.
 sidheanwwyn

Joined: 12/13/2004
Msg: 18
Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/21/2006 4:31:43 PM
holy shiite muslim. he's got a sense of humor...^^^
 longte

Joined: 10/18/2004
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/21/2006 5:06:37 PM
In 2001 the Baptised Catholic Population was 1.06 billion

This makes them by far the largest Christian Denomination
They do not use the KJB

So the KJB is not used as widely outside the Americas
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 essaress

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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/21/2006 5:32:11 PM
hahaha ....I thought that was Country and Western....but no matter...'

Cmon guys do none of you think that it at least bears looking into that a worldwide religion is undergoing a shift toward more fundamentalist thinking and the rationale for that shift is being touted as the "Original"..the "Most Accurate"...etc,...and it just happens to be a book compiled upon the order of a man who ( though admittedly brilliant for his time) nevertheless had a huge bone to pick with the Catholic Church nearly four hundred years ago...so, My point is Why all the complacency that his version is the right one and ..."most accurate"...????
 Lord Dave

Joined: 11/25/2005
Msg: 21
Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/21/2006 5:44:34 PM
It's really simple actually. The king is given his right to rule by god. (divine right). Therefore his version of the bible, by definition, has to be correct.
 The Right Reverend

Joined: 1/11/2006
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/21/2006 6:00:56 PM

My point is Why all the complacency that his version is the right one and ..."most accurate"...????

Ess, where are you getting the data for you assertions? The ISV is one of the later versions. The KJV is well liked, but I doubt that the archaic english makes it as popular as you claim.
 longte

Joined: 10/18/2004
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/21/2006 6:31:04 PM
All religions have their share of Fundamentalists
You only have to look at some Muslim sects or the KKK to see where that can end up

The stupity and hipocrisy that is such a integral part of Fundamentalism will eventually lead to their downfall, as it always does

As I showed before the King James may be widely touted in some Christian Denominations, but these are not necessarily all fundamentalist

Any Bible can be used by these misguided people

I believe it was Cardinal Richelieu who said, 'Give me three sentences writen by the most innocent man and I will find a reason to execute him"'

So it is not the book itself that is important
Just the interpretation
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 The Right Reverend

Joined: 1/11/2006
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/21/2006 6:51:51 PM

Any Bible can be used by these misguided people


Lets not let the words of the bible get in the way of doctrine
 seriouslyfunnylady

Joined: 5/10/2005
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Why Is The King James Version...
Posted: 1/21/2006 7:40:51 PM

In 2001 the Baptised Catholic Population was 1.06 billion

This makes them by far the largest Christian Denomination
They do not use the KJB

So the KJB is not used as widely outside the Americas


They baptize babies, don't think the infants are reading any bible KJV or otherwise
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