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| Dealing with Depression positively?
Posted: 2/2/2006 9:53:50 AM | I was reading another thread and someone mentioned that they knew/were in a relationship with a person who had major depression and was on meds for it. There were several responding comments to the effect of (and one literally) "eek, meds." I've read similar responses in other threads.
The collective message seems to be that if someone is on meds for an emotional condition (this is generally depression and/or anxiety), that this is seen as a big negative. In fact as TWO negatives: (1) that they suffer from depression/anxiety/whatever and (2) that they are on meds for it.
Some statistics based on about 30seconds of Googling:
--"About 16 percent of adults will experience depression at some point in their life."
http://www.add-adhd-help-center.com/Depression/statistics.htm
--"One in four women will have a severe or major depression in their lifetime" AND
--"One in five Americans are depressed or unhappy, and report high levels of stress, anxiety and sadness. {Reuters Health, HealthCentral.com, Nov. 2000}"
both from http://www.jrussellshealth.com/alcanx.html
--"Of those who develop depression, only about 20 percent will receive adequate treatment."
http://www.add-adhd-help-center.com/Depression/statistics.htm
I could cite more, but you get the gist and I am sure there will be those of you who may cite counter-stats (always cool, keeps the conversation lively).
For consideration/discussion (and please, feel free to vet my logic/analogy/premises):
One: (a)Depression is not a choice or a character-flaw: it is a physiological/medical condition driven by the chemistry of the sufferer's brain. It is or can be triggered and/or aggravated by life conditions (such as family medical history)/experiences (such as trauma).
(b) For those with situational forms of Depression (post-partum, brief stress-induced bouts and the like), the body's chemistry is temporarily unbalanced and regains its balance through time and/or focused treatment.
(c) For those with major or chronic forms of Depression (post-traumatic stress disorder, bipolar, dysthymia and the like), the body's chemistry remains chronically unbalanced or in cyclical flux after initial onset and requires ongoing, sometimes lifelong treatment to manage.
Two:(a) Depression can loosely be compared with the medical condition Diabetes, which is similarly not a choice/character-flaw, but is a physiological/medical condition driven by the chemistry of the sufferer's blood-sugar. It is or can be triggered and/or aggravated by life conditions (such as family medical history)/experiences (such as poor dietary choices).
(b) For those with situational forms of Diabetes (gestational and the like), the body's chemistry is temporarily unbalanced and regains its balance through time and/or focused treatment.
(c) For those with major or chronic forms of Diabetes (Type I, Type II and the like), the body's chemistry remains chronically unbalanced or in cyclical flux after initial onset and requires ongoing, sometimes lifelong treatment to manage.
Three: In those forms of Diabetes which are driven by poor dietary choices, those forms of Diabetes could be construed to be a "character-flaw" as these forms of Diabetes could be wholly avoided if the sufferer made better dietary choices.
Four: (a) Abuse of sugar can induce the physiological state of Diabetes.
(b) Abuse of drugs/alcohol may occur concurrently with Depression, but they do not induce the physiological state of Depression.
Five:(a) People with Diabetes who take Meds (example:insulin) are viewed positively for their proactive attention to their condition.
(b) Diabetics -- including specifically those whose Diabetes is driven by poor choices -- are rarely expected by society as a whole to engage in counselling (itself a negatively-stigmatized practice) to address the behaviors and experiences that cause the origin/continuation of their disease.
Six:(a) People with Depression who take Meds (example:wellbutrin, prozac, etc) are viewed negatively for their proactive attention to their condition.
(b) Depression sufferers are generally expected by society as a whole to engage in counselling (itself a negatively-stigmatized practice) to address the behaviors and experiences that cause the origin/continuation of their disease.
SO, for discussion:
Can anyone share stories of people who have dealt with Depression positively? (I am sure there are many war stories of people who did not deal-well - One imagines this would be like living with a Diabetic who refused to deal-well with their condition and subjected those around them to dealing with their seizures/relevant health issues, fussed continually about their diet limitations and generally made a hash of the fact that they had Diabetes.
Also:
--Why do we stigmatize Depression sufferers?
--Why is the knee-jerk reaction "Eek, meds"?
--Why do we often approach a relationship with a Depression sufferer in such a negative way?
--Would you not develop a relationship with someone specifically because they suffered with Diabetes and/or Depression?
What do you POF folks have to add to this discussion?
Inquisitively,
~Z
PS: FYI, as I am sure folks will wonder, I suffer from Cyclical Dysthymia, which means that throughout my adult life since its onset in my adolescence I become clinically depressed on about a 3-4 year cycle +/-. During the most recent down-cycle -- after many years of denial and refusal, and in the face of significant negativity regarding my doing-so -- I took Wellbutrin for about 16months with a very positive effect: it virtually eliminated the symptoms of depression, and I can assure you that when the next cycle hits, I will take it again. I also suffer from PTSD, though after 25 years it is very mild with few overt symptoms other than an aggravated startle reflex (go ahead, say "Boo" and watch me jump! it's entertaining to others) and some mild anxiety/hypervigilance. LOL,"the unexamined life is not worth living"(Socrates), and mine is very worth living. | |
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| Dealing with Depression positively?
Posted: 2/2/2006 10:45:31 AM | The trap of depression is of course that the effect it has on outlook makes future happiness seem unlikely, too difficult or outright impossible. The knowledge that depression is illness and not based in character, personality, worth or other aspects of self, can free the mind from secondary depressive habits, such as projecting a hopeless future, feeling bad about oneself, and other types of anxiety, pain and doubt. Most all of the pain of depression comes from being overly concerned with being depressed.
To manage a bout of depression, know what it is. It's like any other illness or injury in that it starts, lasts a while and then gets better. While it lasts you will have symptoms. Notice them, account for them, adjust for them and continue doing what you can while the depression lasts. Do what eases it, avoid what aggravates it.
Depression very rarely makes it impossible to enjoy absolutely everything. Some enjoyments are possible. Focus on a few of those, to keep balance and avoid abject misery. As with any other injured part of you, there will be tenderness and it takes time to heal. If you sprained your ankle it would affect how you walk, and maybe you couldn't run for a while. But you wouldn't lay down and die from it, unless maybe you kept hopping on it with all your weight until the pain was unbearable. Depression is the same way. Stay off that part of your brain that hurts you when you use it too much. Don't have those painful thoughts. Don't dwell on the pain or it just gets worse. Find what you still like and favor those experiences. The enjoyment you do have will serve as a model as the rest of your mind recovers.
I think it's the kind of thing that once you understand how it works, you crawl out from under it and take control of your life back, in this case by knowing which of your dark thoughts and feelings amount to the aches and pains of a common mental illness. If the introspective struggle provides a beneficial self-awareness, great. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 5:46:38 AM | Wow, Dragon, that was an impressive counter-position!
Can you cite any of your sources? I'd be interested in reading further.
I don't necessarily agree with all you offer for consideration, but you certainly present it well and do offer some real food for thought on the opposite side. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 6:30:06 AM | | And now the pharmaceutical giants are trying to have vitamins included as drugs to gain control over that market as well. Greed is a very power incentive to these people. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 6:43:19 AM | Two things I know on this subject:
1. I suffered from depression in my life. It was very bad and contributed to the destruction of my marriage. But I never took any drugs to rid myself of it. Instead, I made dietary changes and made other changes in my life to eliminate the things that caused my depression (I DO believe my ex was one of them) and I no longer experience depression.
2. I suffer from anxiety disorder. Anyone who has ever been through it knows that it is one of the most frustrating things you could ever hope to deal with. I actually sat in an emergency room praying for a doctor to tell me I was having a heart attack so I wouldn’t believe I was going nuts. I am a very strong-minded person. I am able to overcome anything - mind over matter. I played half a football season once with a broken knee cap, for insance. And I figured I would beat my disorder using the same appraoch. I was wrong. Finding a medication that actually helped me was a trial and error process and I suffered through many physical side effect from drugs that did nothing to help my disorder. Finally, after a year as a guinea pig, we found one that works and has liveable side effects. So I am not willing to discount the effect drugs can have in curing a mental illness. If it would have been a simple matter of placebo effect, then one of the first half dozen or so medication I tried would have worked. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 7:56:33 AM | *inhales deeply...here goes*
YamI, I've spent many days in nights in the ER because I have both panic disorder and anxiety disorder. I've sat praying that something was wrong with my heart, can you guess why? Stigma. I actually wanted there to be something wrong with my heart!
About 12 years ago, I was diagnosed with clinical depression. Because of being so beaten down emotionally and physically, I never really questioned or researched my condition, I simply went through the hell of riding the "lets see if this med will work" lil merry go round. Over several years, I had gained 50 pounds, knew a level of "numb" that I never want to experience again, and was just miserable.
I went off all of my meds cold turkey. Pretty stupid of me, went through a withdrawal experience that I wouldn't wish on the devil, and went on with my life. Found that while I did a lot of crying for no apparent reason, experienced cycles in which all I wanted to do is lay on the sofa and not move one muscle because it hurt too damn much to---one thing became screamingly apparent. I was able to feel again. Maybe I didn't cope as well as the next guy, but my coping skills were pretty much snatched when I was a child, anyway.
I faced a battle and I knew it. I also knew that I was far too strong and far to able (sheer determination) to just sit shoveling pills down my throat for the rest of my days, getting bigger and bigger and disliking myself even more, and not fully experiencing the one good and right thing I'd done in my life, and that was my 2 children. Couldn't live like that another single day.
Spent years off my meds. In that time, fibromyalgia came along, tossing itself into my mix of depression, anxiety, 20 years of dibilitating tension headaches, and a stomach that couldn't handle anything but the most bland food.
Fast forward to two years ago. Life came crashing down, yet finally, I was willing to deal with my life. Before, I was simply reacting to it, absorbing it, just giving in to my circumstances.
At 42, I was embarking on what ended up being the most destructive romantic relationship of my life. Throw in a really bad head injury that left me with post concussion syndrome---memory loss, a blacking out incident while driving , daily chronic pain, and living on morphine for 7 months, on top of all my other physical conditions, and my life was seriously spinning out of control. I was on so many meds that I can't think back and remember how many I actually took, or could even remember to take on any given day. Maybe 9 or 10? I lost about 40 pounds in less than 6 months, maybe, (can't remember such a foggy time) had not even an ounce of a grasp on MY own life, I could only watch it all play out as though I were standing outside my own body.
Were all the meds helping me to cope? Does it seem like they were?
I spent more time in the ER than I ever did when I was on less medication, or no medication. I was being treated for chronic pain, anxiety/panic disorders, moderate clinical depression, and those are only the "stigma" associated conditions. I had a host of other daily meds to pop in, too, to treat insomnia, one heck of a "war zone" stomach, steroids for being so "run into the ground", and so on.
Throughout those years, I had insurance. Today I do not. Today, in the midst of standing up, starting ALL over and feeling better and stronger and healthier than I imagined could ever happen for ME...I'm not taking one single prescription that I "should" be taking.
I don't sleep, I still have horrible headaches every single minute of every day, and I cry. Do I lay down and feel like I can't and don't want to move a muscle? Nope. Don't know where that went, but it's gone. Maybe life just finally beat me too much, just beat all that crap into ashes and there's just no more pain? I dunno, but I do know this. Life will never throw anything at me again that will cause me to buckle, much less do me in. I can take it, I survived, and I couldn't be any more tickled. Heck, I might still be sensitive and emotional and I may cry a lil, but atleast it's honest. Atleast I feel. But best of all, I'm coping. I have triggers that take me back to my hot buttons, but I've yet to feel any of the overwhelming despair that I always knew, much less all the rage.
I'm still weighing the research regarding meds. But there is a part of me that simply has to go on what I have experienced in my own life, and the lives of family members that have also been treated for depression. Sometimes, I do fear what may happen in the next anxiety attack, (worse--panic attack) but judging from the past, I've realized that there really is nothing for me to fear, but the fear.
I don't really have any answers. But I can't stress enough the very positive acts of just deciding that "we" will indeed fight depression, that we will educate ourselves, and the hope that we won't be treated like raving lunatics. We aren't.
I'll come up for air now. Oh, and I just have to send out a hug!  | |
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| Dealing with Depression positively?
Posted: 2/3/2006 11:17:10 AM | Depression is a state of mind. Learn to harness your inner spirit and strenghten it.
Drugs, drink, smoking, etc doesn't get rid of the depressive mind, it only covers it.
The courage to change a life-style, environment, etc usually aids in recovery. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 12:43:07 PM | .
There is a practicing clinical psychotherapist out in San Francisco who has done years of research on treating various types of depression with natural substances and proper nutrition. She has years of proven results and medical institutions worldwide are now starting to incorporate her treatment techniques into their own treatment plans.
She also wrote a great book for the layman describing some of the clinical programs, when to start and stop using various things, and why. I have read the book and personally agree with 99% of it -- and should say that the things I may not fully agree with could be classed mostly as unimportant nitpicking on my part.
The book is the “Mood Cure” and a little of the information is also provided on a web page of the same name.
NOTE: This research work has nothing to do with me and I do not wish to be seen as promoting anything here, whatsoever. All I say is that I found the book to be very well worth reading -- studying, actually. I liked it, anyway. ;-)
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| Dealing with Depression positively?
Posted: 2/3/2006 1:33:49 PM | psychiatric pharmaceutical prescription drugs are dangerous, moneymakers for med industry, but dangerous. I'm a college grad, practically a genius in my own right meds except for an occasional aspirin, don't work for me, sorry psychiatric community, I'm in agreement with actor Tom Cruise on the psychiatric med topic, meds slow people down, best to talk to family, friends, therapist, follow your proper diet.
"you haven't been hungry in years." --Mick from Rocky III. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 1:35:02 PM | Well..I see I am in the minority here....but for what it is worth...
I suffered from derpession from my teenage years on. Because of years of being so distracted by my inner misery...I have little or no recollection of the details of my past. I was in therapy on and off for DECADES and it did not good whatsoever. Congitive-behavior based thereapy did not help, neither did hypnosis or regression therapy. FINALLY my therapist referred me to a psychiatrist who put me on medication. After 6-8 weeks I felt HAPPY for the first time in my life. For the first time it seemed like somone lifted the veil that I had been looking through all my life.
I am still on medication and will be for the rest of my life. I've gone off it a few times...and when I do suicidal ideation begins...and I spiral down.
Is it perfect? No....but life is worth living with medication and I am worth living with. | |
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| Dealing with Depression positively?
Posted: 2/3/2006 1:40:20 PM | | CSK.. you are 100% correct. If meds are what make you be able to lead a fully functional, happy life, then that is worth every penny and who gives a damn who`s getting rich off it so long as you have a high quality of life that you once were unable to have. I`d say a very small price to pay for having your life back. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 1:58:34 PM |
Wow, Dragon, that was an impressive counter-position! Can you cite any of your sources? I'd be interested in reading further.
It's not really a counter-position so much as a PR rap sheet for a woman selling a book on the subject:
http://www.depressionisachoice.com/myths.html
Here is her vitae in brief:
A. B. Curtiss is an award-winning author as well as a cognitive behavioral therapist, a licensed marriage-family therapist and a lecturer on personal growth, self-awareness and Directed Thinking, a system of mind tricks and awareness training to combat depression.
She is an author of .... *drum roll* .... four children's books. She is not a doctor. She is not an authority on the chemical treatment of depression. In fact, she's not a recognized expert on the field in any way, shape or form. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 2:04:49 PM | I've always been the class/work/whatever clown. I love to make people laugh. Guess what? I suffer from depression. Whoopdeedoo!
About once every few years I'll have to take an antidepressant for about 6 months, sometimes longer. It isn't a big deal, especially if you've dealt with it for a while. As an adult, I can recognize the warning signs, so it never really gets in my way.
The last bout of depression began in September of '04, so I did what I normally do: I exercised my ass off, I ate better than usual, spent a lot of time outside and with my friends. It worked for a while, but by April of '05, I needed to get back on the meds because I simply needed some help feeling better. I stopped taking them in October of last year because I began to feel emotionally flat, which, for me, means that I'm producing enough serotonin without the aid of the drug.
I'll probably have to be on it again at some point, and I have no idea when--but no one will ever know unless I tell them.
The first time I went to get help, though--it sucked. I felt as if I had failed. I couldn't beat the depression, and I thought I could; and for the most part, I did a bang up job. My doctor asked me how long I had these episodes of depression, and I told him, "Sometime during adolescence?"
Poor guy. He was a little pissed. I received a good lecture from him. One thing I remember he said (this was a while back, in case you didn't guess), "Aren't you bright enough to know that you can't solve a physical problem with jokes and a positive attitude? Next time you get bronchitis, how 'bout you just joke it away."
He did a good job of convincing me. And I haven't had a real problem since. I just know when it's time to get back on the meds. And no one knows and no one can tell. Not even my parents know about it. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 2:06:51 PM | Well..I see I am in the minority here....
Maybe here in this thread, but I'd be hard pressed to think those on medication are a minority.
Don't get me wrong, please--if my meds had helped me even slightly, I'd still be on them. Instead of improving quality of life, they turned me into someone I despised and my quality of life (and my outlook) was beyond dismal.
I am 100% for seeking help, be it meds, therapy, natural healing---anything that helps. What really, really upsets me is when a person refuses to get help. Further, what really, really riles me up are those that would dare ridicule anyone that needs that help and reaches out for it.
Depression isn't a choice. Depression isn't a weakness. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2006 2:18:17 PM | [quoteDon't get me wrong, please--if my meds had helped me even slightly, I'd still be on them. Instead of improving quality of life, they turned me into someone I despised and my quality of life (and my outlook) was beyond dismal. - Funny_Girl
During my divorce over the last couple of years, I had my first taste of real depression. The entire world drained of color. I stopped eating, and lost fourteen pounds through starving myself. I drank. A lot. Food tasted like ashes in my mouth. After I came back from a business trip where I hit 7 cities in five states in five days, I went to the doctor. They put me on Wellbutrin, and Trazadone to help me sleep if I needed it. It literally felt like a windowshade was pulled up, and light came flooding in again.
I know people who've had bad experiences with meds. I'm not preaching the Chemical Gospel, or anything like that. They are not a panacea. But they do help some people, and whoever said that Tom Cruise needs to come into this thread called it pretty well. The people who say drugs don't do anything, and we just need to tough it out, are just as bad - if not worse - than the folks who think that drugs solve everything.
I am 100% for seeking help, be it meds, therapy, natural healing---anything that helps. What really, really upsets me is when a person refuses to get help. Further, what really, really riles me up are people that would dare ridicule anyone that needs that help and reaches out for it. - Funny_Girl
I agree.
Depression isn't a choice. Depression isn't a weakness. - Funny_Girl
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Posted: 2/3/2006 2:18:29 PM | Oh man.. Let's get Tom Cruise in here.
He's not a bad actor, but he is a fecking idiot. I'd kick him in the jimmies (5 times!), while listening to Old Time Rock And Roll, and then ask him "What the hell is so scientific about scientology? Don't you know that scientology's behavioral practices have quite a bit in common with the Jehovah's Witnesses?" Pointing that out might make his head explode. | |
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Posted: 2/7/2006 1:34:40 PM | I hope to bring an original perspective here seeing as I have suffered from depression in teh past AND I have Type I Diabetes.
Diabetes:
Diabetes treatment has gone through much of the same path as depression treatment is going through now. There is still no confirmed cause of diabetes, but there are several positive treatments. I myself take insulin on average 4 times a day, and it allows me to lead a near-perfctly normal life. My regiment allows me to eat anything I want, but like anyone else, the healthier I eat, the better it is for me overall, and my diabetes is easier to manage. Some people suffereing from Type II diabetes can manage their condition with proper dieting, regular exercise and enough mental discipline and lifestyle adjustments. I don't have that luxury. I CAN'T function without insulin.
Diabetes can be influenced by any number of factors... smoking, drugs, alcohol, emotional highs and lows, exercise, nutrition, stress, etc. It's a guessing game as to what will affect my blood glucose level, but I've gotten to know my system fairly well over the years.
Depression:
There are many more different kinds of depression than there are of diabetes. Just like diabetes, it has varying degrees and some people can "get themselves out of it" through lifestyle adjustments, be it nutrition, meditation, natural supplements, exercise, etc. Others (like me at the time) needed a little help to get things back to normal. I was medicated for a year's time and eventually stopped, because I didn't think I needed it anymore. Fortunately, I was right, but I shouldn't have taken that decision without consulting a doctor first.
Just like Diabetes, depression has no positively known source, and it can be affected by just about anything else health- or environment-related.
I guess in closing, my point is that they're both hit-and-miss conditions (depression moreso because diabetes research has advanced by leaps and bounds in recent years), and we need to find out more about both of them. There' sno perfect solution, and I agree that doctors seem to treat patients very much on a "try this and let's see what happens" basis. The best advice I can give to anyone who suffers from depression OR diabetes (or both!), is that mind and body affect each other undeniably. If your body feels better, then your mind will get better. If your mind is in better shape, then you'll feel better physically. Teh hardest part is getting the ball rolling. Sorry to rant friends, I just hope this sermon helps someone!
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Posted: 11/6/2006 7:03:21 AM | Well one CAN deal with depression postively, even though it takes one heck of an effort.
You also have to be careful with some feelings and moods because sometimes they can just come on you and they may seem overwhelming. Any unhealthy mood can be overcome with an extra effort. | |
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Posted: 11/10/2006 10:15:30 AM | Your girl, I must thank u for ur message. Since i decided to be open about my depression and anxiety problems i have definetly had the "eeek" response. lol. I have struggled with my health since i was a teenager and since then my depression has become my best friend. For those of u who have had a true friend u know this isnt always as pleasant as it sounds. If i dont do what i must to take care of myself i get a hard slap in the face and no room for excuses. This i view as positive because it means i cannot retreat into denial or hide in other activities for long. If i do my health is put at serious risk. My depression has also taught me how to fully FEEL every emotion. Not every person can say this is true for them. It has also taught me to be understanding and forgiving. So yes, it has been hard but my depression is a part of who i am....but i am so much more than my depression. Thank u to those of u who understand this or are trying to understand this. lol. We are simply ppl btw...not lazy or ignorant...but ppl with health problems like so many. We deal with it the best we know how at the moment. I for one am very happy that growth and healing are possible and a choice we have all been blessed with.  | |
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Posted: 11/10/2006 1:53:03 PM | I have had depression on and off since my ex left... I had some real bad times. I couldn't sleep for maybe four months... I lost twenty pounds. I did not look forward to my life at all. If it weren't for my family, I am sure I would have put a bullet in my head.
I don't know if there is such a thing as chemical imbalances... I have heard + / - arguments from both doctors and non doctors.
I am glad I didn't get involved with them though. (drugs to fix chemical imbalance)
Honestly, I should have been sad. It was right to be sad. The most important person in my life left me! I was not happy, and rightly so! This is where my family and friends stepped in. I was still loved. I still had a future. I wasn't a bad person... They helped me survive my self torture and come back stronger and wiser.
I guess I believe in therapy or counceling (personal, religious, or other), but not drugs. The idea I could have artificially cheered myself up seems wrong... Its no coincidence to me that in the last few years every person involved in a school shooting has been on antidepressants. Hey, why not? When you can be happy no matter what, it doesn't matter what you do. | |
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Posted: 11/10/2006 2:13:31 PM | Anxiety....
Seritonin/melatonin levels are controled from the pineal gland.
Alot of people will take one of those suppliments to counter act...usually melatonin.
Taking pineal gland suppliment helps set the gland up to funtion properly...unlike the pharmacutical end, that "takes over" instead of helping the organ to funtion better.
With that being said, I have a young patient who with his parents help, tried everything natural...to no avail.
He sought out a pediatric phyciatrist who put him on the lowest dose of paxil there is.
This young man is now AMAZING!!!
He now enjoys everything , and doesn't have anxiety about anything.
This is a perfect example of how meds can help....AFTER tryin gout the natural way FIRST! | |
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Posted: 11/10/2006 2:49:19 PM | Yep, I can live with this last resort idea.
I just don't like it when I hickup, and suddenly there is a comercial with medication for it.
Drugs... the cure for the common life. | |
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Posted: 11/10/2006 6:33:51 PM | my 2 cent's worth........
Medication is a good thing to start off on, it helps keep you under better control of your emotions....and then you start seeing a counselor/doctor who will help you identify the problem and learn how to adjust or get rid of the problem....while slowly getting off the medication. | |
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