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 smallhagrid

Joined: 9/24/2005
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internet dating - uh huh.
Posted: 2/10/2006 7:46:36 PM
I wonder how many other guys have had almost identical experiences to mine ?

Having done the internet thing on and off for over 3 years I think I have come to some very
correct conclusions, and have yet to see otherwise....of course I may be proven wrong at
any moment - but there are so few single, nonsmoking women here from Vermont or nearby
that I doubt it !

Many, many women hide behind their 'profile', and are terrified to meet anyone new, even
though they joined these sites to meet someone - and of that lot, a great many seem to
only want to email for a.......very.....very.......long......time !!!!

Of the few available women who actually post on the internet from the north country, many
just do it to tease and play - and have no interests beyond that, period.

A great many also seem to skip sharing their photo, and are angry when the guy does the
classic jaw drop despite biting his tongue and trying very hard to smile and be friendly - why,
you ask ?

Simple - they are not shy, they are unwilling to share the truth about themselves.

Example:
When I have met a woman whose ANY 2 fingers are as wide together as my wrist (and NOT
because she is a towering amazon) it then because it becomes clear she kept her
image to herself because she most closely resembles the Stapuft Marshmallow man, or the
Michelin Man with all those funny ripples - sorry ladies, but this does NOT pass for having an
'AVERAGE' body type - that's just a lie, or abject denial - right ?

I used to be fat years ago, and I was also embarassed to be 50+ pounds overweight - but I didn't lie about it and hope some woman would be so stupid or desperate as to share my lie !
I learned how to take better care of my body instead, and when I post that I am muscular,
there is very little that is soft about me on the physical plane, and that's just the truth.

And as far as the truth goes - so many say they want it in full measure, right from the start,
but only FROM the guy - they don't really mean THEY are offering such honesty - it's 'do as
I say, not as I do' all the way - and to make matters worse, they don't actually want the
truth anyhow - what they really want is some sort of soothing fiction that the guys are
supposed to guess at and guess just right too - don't be TOO truthful - that's no good !

Lemme see, what fun and games can I share from my experiences......?
As I turn the clock back and remember those I have met and seriously wanted to be with ->

3+ years ago, a very nice woman, who told me of her biggest problems right at the start -
her 2 kids that were very messed up, and that she wanted a guy to be with when they
went with their dad, because she needed the R&R - she also confessed she seriously doubted
that she wanted cohabitation or marriage again.

We were good together - seriously, very good - and after 6 months when I mentioned that
I really wanted a long-term relationship....BAM ! All done, just like that.

OK, fast forward another 6 months.....a very nice lady, whose profession was as an RN, and
who also admitted to having some messed up kids at home, and wanting to move and so on.
She was needy, and knew it - and I soon realized there was no bottom to the neediness, and
I needed to take time away from her to actually work - things fell apart quickly after that.

Then a year goes by afterwards, and OMG - I met an amazing woman - fireworks right from
the start - an amazing beautiful woman, seemed to have her head on straight, and knew
what she wanted, and said so too - no muddling around here.
Within weeks we were spending time together aplenty - she has a little girl, and they have a
puppy - and we all got along fine.
OK, so a couple of months go by - and I seriously had to keep myself from finding just any
excuse to send her roses, it was an amazing experience.
Well, you know what they say about things that look too good to be true.....

I had been invited, correct that - it had been made clear to me that she wanted me there
with her as much as possible, and only work kept me away - and one night at bedtime I went
into the medicine cabinet to get the toothpaste - and found myself staring at a HUGE bottle
of prescription drugs, and as I read I became rather shocked, it was prozac, prescribed by
her ex-bf the resident dr., unlimited refills, 'take as needed' on the label.
I could feel the earth beginning to shake beneath me....and just to be informed, did some
research....prozac is NEVER officially dispensed that way, is what I found - there is always
a professional monitoring it's use - not the patient themselves, not ever.

I then realized I had been seeing ups and downs corresponding to her heavy use of caffiene
and drugs to start the day, no food all day, just coffee, then no drugs in the evening, just a
small dinner with daily alcohol use - followed by passing out and fitfull sleep for a few hours.

There were wonderful parts to it as well - not to give the wrong impression here...
Between sleep, she wanted attention, and touch, and it was really quite amazing.

I was watchful, and also hopeful - and was shocked to hear her say: "when we get married..."
And time went on for a bit....

So, one night we are in bed together, talking - nothing unusual - and she says, "OK, time to
go through my list...." And proceeds to say all kinds of nice things about me - like - you cook
well, you're good with tools, kids, and animals, and so on......all good stuff - and she ends
this with "geez, you're the perfect man", and she turns away from me, cold as ice, and has
nothing to do with me until arising - and guess what, that was our last time for anything
together.....

Since then I have met every kind of woman ~except~ one I could see myself with, and all
from the online personals !

I do have my doubts at this point, that's for sure.

Best Wishes to All !

mark
 twilight-twin

Joined: 11/19/2005
Msg: 2
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Posted: 2/10/2006 7:55:41 PM
Sounds like your the one that walked away. Guess you weren't so perfect after all. Just judgemental.
 smallhagrid

Joined: 9/24/2005
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what fun.
Posted: 2/10/2006 8:07:12 PM
Lemme see - starting 3 years back - got dumped, HARD by the first I shared about - there
was no choice concerning the end - it was a slammed door 100%.

Next - the needy RN - lot's of anger there, I would even say rage (I bet another poster here
is very familiar with rage by the sound of things...), and the parting was mutual, talked over
and agreed.

The last - I was told my belongings would be on the porch and to come get them, period.

Now I wonder - when a woman says 'go away', is a man 'sposed to keep knocking ?
This sounds highly disrespectful and quite neanderthal to me - if a man respects her,
then why would he want to inflict himself upon her if he isn't wanted ?

So - in answer to twilight-twin, if I am told I am not welcome, I believe it is the right
and honourable thing to walk away quietly, and in peace - not to try and fight my way
to stay in a clearly finished or unwelcome condition.

Your posts remind me of a woman I met who insisted on meeting despite her smoking
habit and my complete inability to be exposed to tobacco in any form - she showed
up visibly dirty, and reeking of intense smoke - and got very angry with me when I
was honest and admitted I had no idea what might be possible between us after we
had spent an hour chatting over coffees - so now I bet you'll tell me this was in some
way also my fault, right twilight-twin ??

Be Well, and Happy !

mark*
 twilight-twin

Joined: 11/19/2005
Msg: 4
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Posted: 2/10/2006 8:26:32 PM
Absolutely not! Those are preferences which your entitled to. There is a however. The however is that you say women aren't looking for a GOOD man. That is your misguided opinion. You think of yourself as a GOOD man. I'm sure you are. . . to someone. My problem with you is that you now make every woman that you may be with in the future PAY for your poor choices in women in your past. Think about it!
 smallhagrid

Joined: 9/24/2005
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what fun.
Posted: 2/10/2006 8:52:13 PM
Hmmmm.....an absolutely perfect no-win situation, but good, wholesome fun just
the same, I'd say.

So, I am a misguided man who is punishing women ?

How very interesting a definition of the word 'good'.

I'll give some examples of what I consider good, both in the positive and in the
negative realms:

A man who stops and holds doors for others, and stands aside politely for women
to pass, especially if they are carrying things or with small children.

He is well liked by small children and animals at first sight and thereafter.

He does what he may to be helpful, as much as possible.

He does not hit, get drunk, or abuse people or substances.

He does his fair share and then some in domestic affairs - knowing the less
things are dubbed 'women's work'. the more of her is left to be happy (and in
truth no domestic work should ever be gender-centric.).

He cares, and does things that make that abundantly clear for his mate.

He has lived long enough to know that too much harm has been perpetuated
against women by unevolved men, and he has made it a priority NOT to do as
his father and other men have done before him.

Now, please do correct me freely in my misguidedness, I welcome your thoughts.

I will further add my 2 cents in a general fashion:
I have also noticed that ALL people who smoke have some kind of anger or
self-hate issues, and tend to be negative and to assume others share their
way of living.
Reward vs. punishment is a very primitive way to live, and indicates a clear
lack of love - self love and otherwise.

It is easy enough to find punishment in this world - there is no need for me to
punish, abuse or neglect my body for any reason.

Be Well, and Happy !

mark
 ROBOC

Joined: 10/18/2005
Msg: 6
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Posted: 2/10/2006 11:16:48 PM
Mark,

Read my post titled "BLAH", it won't solve your problems, but it will answer your questions.

[You might want to read it yourself /Forum Moderator]
 blu_eyed_gal

Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 7
what fun.
Posted: 2/10/2006 11:29:11 PM
smallhagrid...it seems as though you choose women with problems from the start.
How can you expect a good relationship when starting out like that?
 daylillies

Joined: 9/26/2005
Msg: 8
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Posted: 2/10/2006 11:32:31 PM
i did roboc...an ur 100% right...

i think alot of people really dont know what they really want in life..they think they do
 twilight-twin

Joined: 11/19/2005
Msg: 9
what fun.
Posted: 2/11/2006 12:10:08 AM
Holy Hell Mark! Knock me over with a feather. If you think that holding a door open for a woman and being helpful in the home defines a good man, you really are missing it. Ok, I'll give you an inch on not being an abuser as being a good man but you act like it should be commended when it really should be the norm. These things do not make a good man. They are qualities of what a good man could be if he was accepting and non judgemental, giving and loving to mankind which is not you.

You are way off with the assumption that ALL people who smoke have anger, self hate issues and are overall negative people. You are describing yourself so I can only assume that your an ex smoker who carries these traits you speak of only. . . you no longer smoke.
 blu_eyed_gal

Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 10
what fun.
Posted: 2/11/2006 12:16:29 AM
really? I thought he was one of those self righteous arguing sorts from the other thread
 smallhagrid

Joined: 9/24/2005
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hoisted by his/her own petard....
Posted: 2/11/2006 1:09:42 AM
Fascinating responses. Sadly predictable, but none the less fascinating.

OK, first things first:
You wrote:
"Holy Hell Mark! Knock me over with a feather. If you think that holding a door open for a woman and being helpful in the home defines a good man, you really are missing it. Ok, I'll give you an inch on not being an abuser as being a good man but you act like it should be commended when it really should be the norm. These things do not make a good man. They are qualities of what a good man could be if he was accepting and non judgemental, giving and loving to mankind which is not you."

Amazing - I had no idea that we must be living together - you know me so WELL !!

Actually those things I described in opposite terms should be the norm, as you say,
but sadly are not - and in fact are defining facts in many places, like here.
I do so enjoy when folks spout the psycho-babble of non-judgemental, giving and
loving - and most especially when they use those terms judgementally, and in any
attempt to injure another person (better still, a stranger at a distance !!).

And then the very best part, I savored reading this - and saw it coming:

"You are way off with the assumption that ALL people who smoke have anger, self hate issues and are overall negative people. You are describing yourself so I can only assume that your an ex smoker who carries these traits you speak of only. . . you no longer smoke."

My stance about smoking comes from losing 1/2 my extended family via illnesses
as a direct result of their smoking when I was a child - and as a result I have not
only NEVER smoked, it is a point of some gratification to me that I have never
even touched that poison in any manner.

To further the thoughts that you started for me, I ask in return - why would anyone
want to try loving a person that is determined to speed their aging and hasten a
painful and utterly disgusting method of suicide that they pay for themselves ?
Never mind dying slowly and painfully - why would anyone wish to kiss a mouth
that spouts breath with the smell of imminent death upon it ?

Sounds like pure insanity to me: 'c'mere sweetheart, lemme light that death stick
for you, and show you my eternal love by helping you to get ill and die'

Sure, sounds like true love at first gasp to me - infinitely better than courtesy
and consideration and helpfulness of a normal sort, right ?

And now, moooooving right along.....more definitions for me, oooooh, fun !

"self righteous arguing sorts"

Hmmmm.....if I understand what you mean by what you wrote, you are trying
to get across that anyone who disagrees with you is by the direction of your
pointed finger, and 'arguing sort', right ?

Interesting.
I distinctly remember being told over and over again by supposedly older and
wiser folks that it is an important feature of maturity to be able to disagree
peacefully - to agree to disagree as it were.
Now these many folks could have been wrong all along, I grant you.
Further, I vehemently disagree with your smoking (unless you light yourself
on fire for some reason I'll never understand...), but at the same time I do
honor your right as a free willed being to smoke and even to kill yourself in
any manner you choose - but NOT to if you are making the air others breathe
unfit as well - that is NOT ok.

As for the self-righteous label, if my admitted stance on smoking qualifies as
self-righteous, then I stand guilty, guilty, guilty as accused, and PROUD OF IT !!

Be Well, and Happy !

mark
 blu_eyed_gal

Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 12
hoisted by his/her own petard....
Posted: 2/11/2006 1:20:59 AM
actually no mark, you didn't understand. What I wrote had nothing whatsover to do with your views on smoking.
 SwanSword

Joined: 2/4/2006
Msg: 13
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Posted: 2/11/2006 1:21:21 AM
Mark,

I want you to know I there is a way to avoid this type of thing. The items may not be in any particular order, but I will only list the important ones.

You probably are the perfect man. Women wonder how they could ever hang on to such a man. Such a man appears not to need them for anything. You are a complete guy, you need a complete gal. People who are broken tend to want to make their loved one's dependant on them. People who haven't gotten the love they deserved in life sincerely believe they aren't entitled to anything good. When they find something good, they think it wil turn out to a serpent who will inject them full of venom. If a woman can trust a man to be physically intimate with her, but not trust him to marry her, she is screwed up. I had one girl I dated. I asked her what she thought was more intimate, staying together in the same bed overnight, but not doing anything but kissing; or having sex, but not spending the whole night together. She got this one wrong. Having sex with someone is more intimate than not, no matter what. This is a good question to ask a woman as time goes on. Surprisingly many think sex is not that intimate. This is a sign of a sick mind and accursedness.

Try treating a woman like dirt. I mean, not really like dirt, but be a little insensitive. It may go against who you are, but I find women need a little discipline if they have been naughty outside of marriage. This is a natural thing. It is imprinted on a woman's heart at birth that she should stay a virgin until she is married. You probably don't want to marry the woman who likes a little abuse, and you have to be careful to abuse her in a nice way. Just act like you don't care, sometimes. Be insensitive. She will be more aggressive. Most women don't really want love. They want to be good breeders. If you insist on obedience, they usually like that. When they disobey, you have to forgive them. That is part of the game. A woman loves when she disobeys a man's wishes and he forgives her. That is the picture of love, forgiveness. If you never exercise any authority, you can't make any rules. If you can't make any rules, there are no rules for her to break. If she can't break any rules, she can't ever do anything that needs forgiveness. I always make a lot of rules for my girlfriends. Not right away, but slowly. I always follow up each rule with something I already always do and say I'll always do that thing, which I already do anyway, to show solidarity with her compliance to my wishes. That way we are compliant to each other. Here is how it works: After a month, or so, tell her you never want her to go to a male strip show. Tell her you will never go to a strip show, either. Then she will find a way to fool you. But, you will be waiting for it. When something looks a little suspicous, you can home in on it. Then, let her get away with it, and question her like a lawyer afterwards. Women like getting caught being naughty. When she fesses up, act mad. Raise your voice and say, "You have done that which I commanded you not to do". She'll say, "I'm sorry". Then, withdraw attention from her, but not for too long, maybe about 1/2 hour. Just get away from her. Don't pet her head and say it's ok. Let her know you are PO'ed. This is part of the game. Then, come back and say, "You know I love you, and there is nothing you could ever do that I wouldn't forgive you for, don't you?" She'll say, "YOU DO!!??", like you have just saved her from something horrible. Then touch her, affectionately, but sort of let her come on to you. Lead her, but don't attack her with affection. Get her to pour out her love on you, and give you everything you want. I even had a woman say, "You can do anything to me you want. I'm yours." I told her, "I want you to show me how much you love me, any way you want to." That was some night. It was all because I let her be naughty. She didn't do any harm, but it is very reassuring to a woman that her man stands for something, and he will not be made a fool of, not even by her. When he forgives her it is a picture of God's forgiveness through Jesus Christ. This is most healing to a woman. A woman seeks God through a man who seeks God himself. This is why God says, "Your desire shall be for the man, and he shall rule over you." That doesn't mean women have to be obedient. It means the woman needs some rules to break in order to be forgiven by the man, or she will concoct her own sin. In the Garden of Eden", woman had no one to rule over her. This caused her to bring sin into the world because she needed to have the man forgive her for something. Women can't leave perfection alone. They always have to find something to do that's wrong. That way they can get forgiveness. This receiving forgiveness heals wounds from a broken heart. Once a woman's heart is broken, she really has to be forgiven a lot.

Women need the truth. If you know how to do everything right, but you don't know the truth, she will see you stand for nothing. A man without moral convictions , and double standard ones, will never gain the respect of a woman. He has no basis. He has no source. He is a ship in a storm without compass, rudder, or sails. He will eventually crash into a pile of rocks, destroying himself and her. Sometimes it is less painful to help the guy drive himself into the rocks, and then escape disaster alone. You have to do what is right, not what is nice. You have to stand for something. Here's how it works. Just to take the edge off, I say two things together. "I have to tell you somerthing, honey. I really value a woman who is virtuous before marriage, but I'd love to drink your honey." That isn't threatening, and from that point on she is plotting how to get you in bed. They don't feel threatened with anything, and see only reward. You have to know how women think. But, you have to get inside alone with her. So, when you get to her house, say, "Hey, do you have any aspirin. I need some." She will think you have a headache, so there is really no threat of being intimate with you, because you won't want to. So, she lets you in. She already knows you value a virtuous woman, so she will trust you. A woman remembers everything a guy ever said, forever. So, you don't have to remind her. Just pretend you are like a woman and you remember everything you said. Then you will know what she is thinking about. Don't strip naked when she goes to get the aspirin. Women do not get turned on by a guys naked body. A man's body is utilitarian. It looks functional to a woman, not beautiful. You shouldn't need another line to start kissing her, but do not attack her with a kiss. You have to look into her eyes, with love, but serious, and really fall in love with her. Trust her, and she will become who you want her to be. After a few seconds of
good eye contact, gently pull her toward you; just her head, not her whole body. You can't manhandle women. You have to let them have some charge, but you have to lead. They have to be allowed to follow. Women will always follow a good lead. Act a little confused, like you aren't really sure if she really likes you, and you have to try that kiss again. Do not maul her with saliva. If you don't know how to kiss, have a friend who is female teach you. Women hate to get slimed. But, that second kiss should be a fairly passionate one. Make kisses light, passionate, yet firm enough to let her know you aren't a wimp. You don't want to dance around her mouth like a fairy. You get the idea. I can't explain exactly how everything after this goes, but make sure you say, "I'm not sure if this is right. We're not married yet." Women love forbidden fruit. The more they think they can't have it, the harder they try to get it. It's a game. Don't talk a lot, not much at all. This part doesn't need many words, and the ones it does need are meaningless whispers in the dark. So, try to at least sound good, but don't say more than three words at a time. Then, drink her honey, say goodbye, and leave. You just put about a million dollars in a sex savings account. You will be drawing on the fact that you gave, but took nothing, for as long as you want.

Make sure a woman is not married, attached, or recently broken up. A woman who needs a man "around" is the the woman you don't want to be around. Waitresses and nurses are like this. Women who live with their parents are the best. I had one girl who was a 22 year old virgin. She had to be home at 11:00 pm, at the latest. One night she got drunk and had to take a cab home. Her Mother said, "You tramp. What if you had been raped. Then how would I look to the neighbors?" This was severe. She had always waited for a man to give her some different rules. I found out she was a virgin because I tried to have sex in my car with her. She said that wasn't good enough for her first time. I was going to my lake cottage early the next morning to go fishing, so I told her she didn't have to be home at 11:00 if she went out with me. I invited her to the lake cottage, and fawned over her. I didn't really intend to stay with her, but I wanted her first time to be the most special night of her life. So, I didn't let her know that. She was a lifeguard and a model, so she loved to swim. The lake was perfect for her. She could even tan on the raft. She told her parents I was a life guard, and we were going to a swim meet together. I looked like a lifeguard, and I knew how to water rescue, but what she said wasn't quite true. So, she was pure a snow. I know it hurts a woman the first time, so I don't say much. She is just trying to get through it. I could see a little tear in her eye, so I tried to be quick, but somehow I wanted to make it last. I don't know why. We were in front of the fire with a half empty bottle of wine. Everything went really well. She really felt loved. We slept in front of the fire, and when we woke up she said, "I think I love you." I said, "I love you, too. I just can't stand the fact that we might ever be apart again." She said, "I feel exactly the same way. Isn't that amazing." I said, "wow, we are soul mates!!" she paused, looked at me expectantly, and I said, "I forgive you for anything you ever did wrong, and I always will forgive you for anything you ever do. There is nothing you could ever do that I would not forgive you for." "Can I ask you to marry me, then", she asked. I replied, "The guy usually asks that. You would be cheating yourself out of something if I answered that. But, I forgive you." She was looking into my eyes, but she didn't seem to be in this world. I thought I had lost her. Then I asked, "So, do you know how to do dishes?" She said no. I said, "I want you to know I respect myself, and I expect you to be obedient." She said ok. I said, "I forbid you to get dressed today." She said ok. I said, "I forbid you to come fishing with me." She said ok. I said, "I forbid you to say ok one more time." She said alright. I said, "I forbid you to agree with me." She said, "I don't agree with you." "Well why didn't you say that?", I asked. "Because you didn't ask me", she replied. I said, "Obedience is no fun if you do it." "I know", she said. She was one smart cookie. I miss her. She still calls me asking when I am coming back to her. I say, "Never." She says, "When is that going to be. How many months?" I say, "It could be a long time." She always tells me she will wait. She is a swedish lifeguard, who looks hot without any makeup, with naturally blonde hair, blue eyes, and a perfect body. She is 5' 7". She is fit. She swims every day at like 5:00 am. For some reason I just can't tell her. But I know this is some kind of game I haven't thought of yet, and I'm not going to lose. If anyone is going to trick someone into marriage it is going to be me.
 blu_eyed_gal

Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 14
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Posted: 2/11/2006 1:24:37 AM
cripes almighty....I think I have to go poke my eyes out after reading that unfactual conglomeration of rubbish.
 c3sparling

Joined: 12/29/2005
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Posted: 2/11/2006 1:30:42 AM
jesus everytime i read something done by swan i feel as tho my brain is turning further and futher to mush. is this what actually passes by as advice.
 smallhagrid

Joined: 9/24/2005
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Posted: 2/11/2006 1:42:59 AM
Well blu eyed woman, if your idea of a good time is to poke your own eyes out,
they are your eyes to poke, so go right ahead if you must.

Swan Sword, I think I take your meaning in what you wrote, and I do thank you
for the time you took to type all that off - and at the same time I must say that
I am too simple a man for such complicated manipulations - and perhaps a bit
old fashioned as well, so I will happily leave all such complicated stuff to your
expert self, and extend my thanks for the effort !

In my world-view, what is real, is real, and what is not, is not, and though all the
game playing sort of stuff sounded fun when I was a younger man, I am am no
longer that young man, and have learned to seek peace in my life above all.
(If only it were easier to find a woman with similar desires !)

Be Well, and Happy !

mark
 twilight-twin

Joined: 11/19/2005
Msg: 17
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Posted: 2/11/2006 1:52:43 AM
OMG! I'm done here! Thank you God. . . free will? I speak no more words.
 blu_eyed_gal

Joined: 8/25/2005
Msg: 18
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Posted: 2/11/2006 1:53:04 AM
A good time no, a necessity after reading posts sometimes yes.

Swan...I agree with hagrid. The message your sending seems to be all about manipulation.
Manipulation based on rubbish.
 TMP

Joined: 10/21/2005
Msg: 19
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Posted: 2/11/2006 8:25:05 AM
Mark I think as you said on your first date in your profile. I guess the world has gone away man. Are you a perfectionist? Could that be the problem? Do you expect everything to go your way? Just wondering why your just blaming all but yourself.
 belgarion

Joined: 10/29/2005
Msg: 20
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Posted: 2/11/2006 8:43:50 AM
DING DING DING,. Ladies and gentleman I think we have a match!!!!
 genngi

Joined: 12/20/2005
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Posted: 2/11/2006 9:15:21 AM
Mark,

I wish you well. Internet dating, or any dating for that matter will go like this. Though, it is true that some of these things are more pronounced in internet dating where we can put out a fals persona that we never have to live up to. So many people do "hide behind their profiles" as you put it, and don't really want to meet etc. (not just women, but men too). This is an inability that the majority of people have to be honest with themselves and accept themselves. We meet people, all kinds of people, and we are still single because nobody quite fit! It has been three years for me also, meeting all kinds. Bottom line is most people have something wrong with them, issues or "baggage" of some kind. You surely do too. Some are worse than others, and even in this, we "fit" other people, where our needs and idiosyncracies complement the other's. So, it can be very hard to find someone to be with, someone who fits us. This is why we are still single, so many of us, or are single for a long time. And, I will agree that the majority of people I meet online or anywhere, really have a Lot of issues!!! part of really finding someone and being able to make it work and flourish is being able to be honest with ourselves, see our own flaws, and accept and improve them. For most people it takes a while in their lives until they are ready for this. If they have relationships in the meantime, they have many difficulties to work through in the relationship, and sometimes they manage it, but sometimes they don't (50% of marriages end in divorce and then there are those LTR's that last a long time and never made it to marriage in the first place). It's all about personal growth and if you can grow personally with someone else or not.
 Hambone352

Joined: 7/6/2005
Msg: 22
internet dating - uh huh.
Posted: 2/11/2006 9:18:04 AM
Well, if you check out "Myspace" that's the perfect place for attention whores.....basically, they put pics of them up at the local nightclub with all their friends, falling over each other dead drunk, in their "Diva-wear" thinking that are the sh*t.

Then if you scroll down fu rther, they have 100 guys on their friends list....ALL of them they dont' even know personally.
 daylillies

Joined: 9/26/2005
Msg: 23
internet dating - uh huh.
Posted: 2/11/2006 9:19:25 AM
blueyesgal..u kill me everytime with ur comments....to funny girl...aww laughin is good
 ~iiCe~

Joined: 7/26/2005
Msg: 24
internet dating - uh huh.
Posted: 2/11/2006 9:19:48 AM
jimmieeeee...... Swan... you scare me... seriously if that is your idea of advice.... urgh.... I feel for your 22 year old virgin... she really could have picked someone better... what a messed up first time for her...

dating isn't about manipulation... it is about really getting to know if you want to be with someone... not everyone is going to be a match... just got to keep on meeting people until you find the right one... may take time.. may have many detours... but these should be fun times... attitude is everything...
 TMP

Joined: 10/21/2005
Msg: 25
internet dating - uh huh.
Posted: 2/11/2006 9:32:26 AM
Hambone352 actually I have been on myspace and talked with a few women that are no way what you have said. I guess its what your looking for.
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