| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/1/2006 1:11:51 PM | It seems the only people to ever dispute this are indeed liars.
This is a proven technic the world's best court analysers and psychiatrists use to read people.
When using our brain, we store things that have occured on the right side. These are our memories. When we search our brain for something that has already happened we will look to the right with our eyes.
When we are creating we use the left side of the brain, so when we are making up stories we tend to look to the left with our eyes.
IF you look into a person's eyes while asking them a question, you will see if they look to the right, they will be tlling you the truth, but if they look to the left they are indeed lying.
This goes with body language as well, when a person lifts their right hand to genture while they speak, they are telling the truth, if their left hand goes up, it's a lie.
Now there is arguements on left handed people on this....there is no difference, the brain still works the same and the brain controls all your body actions sometimes on impulse.
This form of truth telling was used on
OJ Simpson, showed clearly he was lying
Tonya Harding, the same
This was shown on 60 Minutes a few years back and has been fool proof in my life.
One more thing, use your gut feeling. for if you feel something is wrong ...it is.
Love and Light
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Ooli
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/1/2006 1:24:55 PM | I find this really interesting. I use body language to get a feeling about what's going on for another person, and will consider this, as well. Liars do give themselves away, most of the time. If we don't see the "truth", usually it's because we don't want to see it.
I just wonder what happens if you are talking to someone who is a creative person, and is trying to make the story as entertaining as possible. There also is the consideration that someone might be a bit unclear about a memory and is trying to reconstruct it. I would hate to misjudge someone, because they were trying to remember an event or make the story entertaining. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/1/2006 1:41:07 PM | no matter if a person is searching for a memory they would look to the right not the left for the memory is stored on the right side. there is no mistaking that.
some people who are aware of this method could easily fool, but in time the truth will surface because we all know lies snowball.
Of course you will have to use your own common sense when using this method, but it's as accurate as it comes in seeing a natural truth.
Thanks for the comments, they are truely valid statements and each individual should yes be judged as individual. this is just a bit of info that hopefully will help people. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/1/2006 1:50:37 PM | Do you know if there has been any statistically valid research done to validate this?
Seems like there would be no need for a lie detector machine if this were a reliable signature. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/1/2006 1:55:44 PM | | Don't listen to this people. There may be a tendency for liars to do this but the best liars can practise to the point where they almost believe their own lies. They can control their body language and shift it to what honest people do. Don't put too much faith into this. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/1/2006 2:11:38 PM | Interesting thoughts, What if the person was dyslestic? Would there patterns of non verbal messages be the same?
A lier usually always has an answer for everything.
Even the best of liers get caught, or people can feel something is not right and stay away. But that is only for the people who question a lier. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/1/2006 3:09:07 PM | Green **stard***
what are you just following my posts to dispute them. get over yourself.
Just because you choose not to believe does not make it bullshit
It's a good thing you don't believe in karma because when it smacks you down, you will be pleasantly surprised | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/1/2006 3:16:43 PM | Metaphysicalgypsy:
You forgot about fidgeting.. lol ..Also you guys wanna watch for the feet & legs, ppl tend to shake thier knees while sitting if lying to ppl, and or they begin to move thier feet about nervously.
Face touching: ppl tend to also do this while lying..
Stalling in questions ... ppl tend to re-ask the question before giving an answer .. just so they could try and think of a story to come up with ...there are to many ways to tell if someone is lying.. I used to take P.I, lessons... tee- hee!!! | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/1/2006 3:19:31 PM | you are so right, there actually was much more, but I thought would stick with the basics.
Thanks for adding this! it's such useful information | |
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opeth
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Posted: 3/1/2006 4:36:17 PM | Gypsys spot on and to the person who asked If this Is proven, yes beyond any doubt.. thats why It stands up In court and law enforcement / psycologists use It.
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/12/2006 8:44:51 PM | I have met two psychopaths, in my life, and they were so glib I would have believed their stories if I didn't know something about them before hand. (One of them was my best friend's daughter, another was a close friend's son.) Other people have a harder time lying, but different individuals, I find, give themselves away differently.
Some men will look you straight in the eye without blinking, trying to out-stare you, when telling a lie, because they think that will make them look honest. (They're hoping the proverbial stereotypes about liars not being able to look you in the eyes, will fool you.)
However, for me, the best way to determine if someone is telling is to find out if their stories stay the same. For that reason when I meet people on-line, I print out everything they write so I can keep track. If, I've started dating, I keep notes.
Call me cynical, but I seen and experienced too many things not to take care of myself. As one of my counsellors told me when it comes to relationships, any investigating that will help me decide who's safe and who isn't is perfectly okay.
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/12/2006 9:00:52 PM | I would have to disagree about the eye thing. I'm sorry but I'm very comfortable with looking someone in the eye, so I don't want people to think I'm lying to them by looking at them directly in the eye. I try to keep things as simple as I can so I try not to ever lie. There's no point really. But sitting here, trying out the "creativity" theory, I find myself blankly staring at about 15 degrees off to the right and level. I'm a very creative person, I daydream all the time, and actually I"m finding it very difficult to even keep my eyes relaxed to the left at all. My eyes seem to be naturally settling over to the right, and since I'm daydreaming about 90% of the time when I'm not exercising my head, then I believe this theory you heard is wrong in my case.
The only way to know for sure is to disprove, or watch for a combination of discomfort signals. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/12/2006 9:01:16 PM | Hi,
All of this is very interesting. It's just too bad that we can't tell when someone is typing us a lie. Because typing is after all the way we meet and initially communicate on here. But if you ever hear of a way please let me know. It would sure help to weed out some of these knuckle heads more quickly. And then we can move on to more serious people without
wasting too much of our time.
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/13/2006 5:17:04 PM |
How about give that person a reason to lie and see if he/she will?
This is probably the best advice yet. It is very true. If there is a question you already know the correct answer to and the answer is negative for the person being asked, an honest person will regret having to own up to the truth, but will tell you the truth anyway. Under the same circumstances, the dishonest person will take that oportunity to save face by lying.
Something similar is that there is an almost foolproof way to tell if someone is dishonest and it only costs $5. You simple leave the money lying around where it can be found, but looks lost, or you loan the money to the person you suspect. An honest person will return/repay the money.
The trick is to not make it some important thing. If it means a lot to them, many people will think it justifiable to tell a fib. The amount loaned...well obviously. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/13/2006 6:27:59 PM | Kind of covered yourself there with the statement "the only people who argue with this are indeed liars themelves" - doesnt leave a lot of room there for argument does it....? haha. oh well.
Well I am not a liar and I do intend to argue the point - ie that I dont agree. I do look to the left when I am telling the truth and Im trying to recall true and honest details. I also look to the right, and I also straight at the person Im talking to
So I dont agree with that theory. What do you do about people who use both left and right side of their brain?
However I am glad it has been foolproof for you....
I would tend to look towards cold hard evidence [ aka facts] before being convinced someone is lying. But thats just me
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/14/2006 5:41:46 PM | Hey, I watched the same show and have been using it ever since as well. It's amazing just how well it works. I told quite a few women about it and to watch guys in bar situations. Most of them get a good laugh about it. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2006 7:24:24 PM | I have a masters degree in Psychology/Behavioral Sciences and I'm sorry to tell you your information is a little off. First off, anything you see on television or read in the media is slanted and biased, and also geared to sell magazines, newspapers, commercial air time etc....so take it all with a grain of salt-- ESPECIALLY ANYTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE OR MEDICINE. Secondly, there are several places in the brain where memory is stored depending upon the length of time that has passed, the type of memory and many other variables. Thirdly, the right side of the brain sends signals to the left side of the body, and the left side of the brain sends signals to the right side of the body. Lastly, there is no such thing as a fool proof technique for analizing body language. There are literally millions of variabals that determine a persons subconcious motor impulses in a given situation. Many people's eyes will dart to the left....or the right-- out of nervousness, distraction, auditory stimulation and way too many other reasons to mention. Generally people who can be trusted look you directly in the eye.....but that's also fowlable because many people who suffer from shyness or extreme insecurity have great difficulty looking people in the eye even when they are being truthful.
Don't succumb to media hype about fool proof tests and miracle lie detecters. There's just no such thing. Every single person is completely different and their reactions, even the unconcius ones, have been shaped by their own unique experiences and personality. The best way to catch a liar is to pay close attention to what they say and keep mental notes....or even write things down when you can.....Save emails and encourage them to write about themselves; then compare them later....anything you can do to catch the contradictions. No liar, no matter how smart, can keep track of it all for long without contradicting himself/herself. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/14/2006 7:56:29 PM | Gypsy, I do agree with the theory you are passing on here. I have seen and read about these methods. It is also true that people can be trained to not give away these indicators but for the most part you can use these methods as a guide. Perhaps not rely on them but use them as an indication to the person possibly lying and then you can use other methods to see if they are. Gut feeling usually works for me. I have only ever had 1 ex that lied and she was really bad at it. she would make elaborate lies and then make no attempt to even remeber what she had said. For example saying she was out with women from work the night before and then an hour later if i asked if she had fun with her co workers she would forget she had said she was with them and claim to have just stayed home alone. Also her voice wavered so you knew she was unsure about what her story was. Needless to say she was a cheat and is long in the past now! Lying is like bluffing in poker. Everyone has a tell. unfortunately sometimes it takes a while to figure out what an individual does that gives them away.
thanks for pointing this out for people. It may not be 100% but it can help. And even if people can be trained to not give away these signs the chances are you arent going to meet some ex cia womanizer. It should work on joe/jill average.
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/15/2006 5:32:36 AM | | Generally people who answer questions not asked are lying but like any of these "tells" they should never be used as conclusive "proof" that someone is lying. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/15/2006 6:35:51 AM |
This goes with body language as well, when a person lifts their right hand to genture while they speak, they are telling the truth, if their left hand goes up, it's a lie.
Now there is arguements on left handed people on this....there is no difference, the brain still works the same and the brain controls all your body actions sometimes on impulse.
Totally wrong. I am left handed, and seldom use my right hand when speaking.
I am much more a believer in looking directly at the eyes. With someone you know well, it's almost impossible for them to lie unnoticed in that situation.
With good friends and lovers, I find myself sometimes almost able to read their mind if I can see their eyes and expressions. I've freaked a few people out like that, but just saying exactly what I felt they were thinking. | |
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| To tell if someone is lying to you
Posted: 3/15/2006 8:34:10 AM | I don't believe there is any one tell-tale sign that can accurately determine whether someone is lying or not. Here is a good article on the subject however. I did some research on it when I caught my SO in a blatant lie.
http://www.askmen.com/fashion/how_to/58_how_to.html
And here is an interesting article on HOW to lie:
http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/lie/lie.html
It supports much of what the first article says. | |
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