| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/11/2006 11:49:24 PM | I was on the Phone to a Friend when they told me about three little Boys being killed on the Train Track.I got off the Phone and saw it myself on the News. Three little Boy"s,two Brothers and their cousin Killed on the Track.Three very young lives tragically cut short!!!Three little Boys that will never enjoy Adult life. According to the News The Mother of the two Brothers, had already lost another Son,so she has lost three Children altogether. May the Three little Souls R.I.P | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 12:23:46 AM | Yes those poor little souls but apparantly police were called that they were throwing rocks at passing trains and trains travel along that part of the Track on the Ipswich line at 100kph.
I think we should teach our children always never ever to play near train tracks or even throw things at trains. My feeling is that something was thrown at the train it rickeshayed back and hit one of the boys and possibly killed him and the other boys just died playing on the track.
RIP and may it serve as a warning to other young boys or girls. | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 1:22:07 AM | Dream I do not blame the Government or the Traindriver.I feel for the Traindriver as he or her Has to come to terms with this accident.I know because of my compassion and care about Children, if I were the Driver I would need Help. I have to agree with you,where was the Parental supervision?Why were they roaming the Streets? | |
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mish
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 2:26:08 AM | Heard it on the way this arvo out to an event. sad news yes!!
I didn't hear it all as i turned the radio off, this stuff always gets to you. How old were the kids? | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 2:34:08 AM | | Beauty the boys were 8,9 and 10.Very sad ending of three young lives. | |
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mish
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 2:42:34 AM | 10 is the age of one of mine. she usualy with other kids walking around etc etc.
It's a worry though, you can't protect them 24/7 at that age, they like to have a bit of independance.
It's really sad to hear of. | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 2:48:34 AM | this broke out up here last night.... this is the write up in the paper...
Boys warned to stay off tracks
12mar06 THREE boys fatally struck by a commuter train had been warned by police not to stray too close to the track just before the tragedy.
Two brothers aged eight and 10 and their nine-year-old cousin died instantly when they were struck by a passenger train between Goodna and Redbank stations in Brisbane's west, police said today.
Acting Superintendent Noel Powers revealed police had asked the boys to move back from the edge of the Redbank platform on the Ipswich line just 40 minutes before the children were hit about 6.40pm (AEST) yesterday.
"They were standing and sitting too close to the platform. They were asked just to move back and they were last seen leaving the platform and heading towards Brisbane on foot," Supt Powers said.
He said the same officers who cautioned the boys later attended the scene of the tragedy - two kilometres north of the station - where locals today laid flowers.
Supt Powers said it was still unclear what the boys were doing on the track but that their grief-stricken families would be spoken to.
"We haven't had an opportunity to speak properly to the parents yet. They're obviously quite shattered by this incident and that's something we will have to follow up on but that will be part of the normal investigative process," he said.
The brothers were from Mount Gravatt East in Brisbane's south, while the nine-year-old lived in southwest suburban Carole Park.
Emergency service workers who attended the scene as well as train passengers involved in the accident had been offered counselling and support services, Supt Powers said.
"These tragedies unfortunately affect different people in different ways ... at this particular stage it's the grief of the family that we really must deal with," Supt Powers said.
Police also had received a report from Queensland Rail of rocks being thrown at trains in the area about 10 minutes before the accident.
Supt Powers said the shaken driver of the Brisbane-bound train could not have averted the accident.
"He didn't have time to slow ... he didn't see them prior to hitting them ... he didn't have time to warn them at all," he said.
"It's just a case of he's seen them at the last moment and then unfortunately he's hit them."
Supt Powers said that with the accident occurring within 30 metres of the busy Ipswich Motorway it was possible the children did not "see or hear the train".
Early investigations indicated the boys were grouped in a crouched position before the force of the impact flung their bodies in different directions.
Supt Powers said investigators might have to use DNA technology to positively identify the children because of the extent of their injuries.
Queensland Transport Minister Paul Lucas said the "terrible tragedy" would be investigated by Queensland Rail (QR) and Queensland Transport.
He said "rail tracks are dangerous places".
"Adults need to understand that rail tracks are dangerous, children need to understand it and parents need to understand it most of all," Mr Lucas said.
A QR spokeswoman said the state-owned corporation had had problems with people damaging fences to gain access to train tracks illegally.
"As soon as we repair any holes or damage, they are frequently damaged again," she said.
"We appeal to the public for their own safety, please stay away from the rail corridor and only use designated safe crossing points."
A resident who lives opposite the accident scene said lighting at the site had been out for eight months.
The man, who declined to be named, said he had regularly complained to authorities but to no avail. *****
It is also said that this is the 2nd tradgey this year for this family... apparently the older brother of the 2 boys was killed in Jan 2006 in a car accident... that was reported on the news night....
it is a sad thing that has happened.... i feel for the family now.....
where were the parents some would say... i dont know.... i do know the Goodna area where this happened... there is a RSL next to the train station and a pub across the road ( ipswich motorway)... plus a small shopping centre... so they couldve been to any of those places... | |
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mish
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 2:56:04 AM | Thanks for that nun.
Who knows where they were. I guess to girls are different when they tend to go out with their friends, mien doesn't go far when she's here of with her dad, the fact is we know where she is and whom she is with and can be easily contacted. as for my son, different matter.. 13, has a alot of probs.. so it is a worry, boys are a little more careless, immature and don't take t the authorities as well as girls would.
What do you do? you teach them right from wrong, remind them about the tragic accidents, boys don't listen..
but did the parents know what the kids were upto? doubt it..
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 4:08:32 AM | | not a problem.... i finally read the sundaymail... and this is front page and 7th page... on the 7th page it is said it happened between redbank station and goodna station.. at 6:40pm.... now really why were they out that time of night...? | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 4:13:31 AM | | Nun I am not sure if its right or not, but the News here said that the Mother of the two Brothers killed had also lost a older Son in a Police Chase? | |
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mish
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 4:15:03 AM | Now that makes it even worse... You don't let kids..cos they are kids, not teens etc.. but kids ..they shouldn't be out!!! | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 4:25:55 AM | | yes tony... he was killed in Jan this year.... that was on the news tonight... they also had a family friend i think it was on there as well... | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 4:28:41 AM | | Nun so thats three Boys from the one Family gone!!!! | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 4:38:14 AM | pretty much... when i hear more i'll lets ya know....
but the family is from Carole Park.. which is low income and industral area.... and mostly housing commission place too... kinda roughish neighbour.... | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 4:41:51 AM | | that whole area is not surprising tony.... but at least my lawyer is kept in business....lol.... i use to live out that way when my son was born... luckily... i moved back to my old stomping grounds 12months ago....inner city | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 4:53:10 AM | | Dream what you just said, is exactly what we were getting at. | |
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mish
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 5:04:44 AM | was thinking bout this earlier.. yes ne tragic loss, you would think lesson would of been learnt. it wasn't.
sorry, just feeling some anger at how this could happen!!
I worry all the time over my kids, and doesn't matter what age I always will. But this family even if they were still grieiving they still had kids to think of. I lost a partner,grieiving is so hard to get through,my daughter/our daughter cried and was enough to wake me and think about what I have to keep living for. these parents had other kids to think of!
maybe will just hush for the night cos things like this, makes me wonder how it really happened, what was going on with the parents.. I say parents yes, this is something the parents could of dealt with, kids would of been doing their own grief too..
i dont know im shuttin up now.. grrr.... | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 5:08:35 AM | | Beauty the questions you ask about the Parents are natural.I am wondering too!!! | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 5:09:05 AM | the area that they live in has always been a problem.... i hated the thought of living out that way coz of the rep it does have but it was cheap for me at the time... if you have heard of a suburb called Inala.. you would understand what im getting at... there are more people not working in that area then any other in brissy.. and they just keep having kids.... it is full of drug dealers and drug users.. drunks... ethnic gangs... you name it has it.... yes they have tried cleaning it up... revamping the housing commission home etc... but it hasnt taken the rif raf out of the area.. the big houses that are new there now.. are owned by dealers of some sort... many of times i would see kids walking the street at 11pm....didnt matter what age they were... there was not one night that i didnt hear a gun shot or police sirens
but dream ya right... the mother/parents should have learnt from the 1st loss... in that area some just dont.... thats why i got out of the area... coz i was seeing kids the same age as my son swearing words i wont repeat here from the front yard with their parents sitting drinking and what not on the patio.... | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/12/2006 11:23:02 PM | they had the parents of the 2 brothers on the news tonight.... it was told that the boys were staying at their aunties place and the aunties oldest son was to be looking after them....
there is security footage of the 3 boys hanging around the shops at goodna at 6:30am... they were there all day 8hours... it wasnt until after 6pm that they started to worry and called for a search. the parents of the brothers said on the news they just thought they were out playing.
heres the write up in the courier mail today...
Boys used train tracks 'as guide' By Roberta Mancuso March 13, 2006
THREE boys who died after being struck by a train in Brisbane had been following the train tracks home, the father of two of the boys said today.
Hayden Duncan, 11, his brother Glen Duncan, 8, and their cousin Reggie Fisher, 9 died instantly when they were struck by a passenger train between Goodna and Redbank stations in Brisbane's west about 6.40pm (AEST) on Saturday.
They were killed just 40 minutes after police cautioned them for standing too close to the edge of the platform.
Hayden and Glen's dad Joe Duncan today described the boys as "happy-go-lucky normal kids".
He said the two younger boys were following his eldest son Hayden, who had in the past used the tracks as a guide to his home.
"They were using tracks as a guide to get home because they didn't want to walk on the road, so they walked on the tracks," Mr Duncan said at his home at Mount Gravatt today.
"They know where they're going when they follow tracks."
Mr Duncan said Hayden had walked the train line "once or twice before" with older boys, but he had never taken his brother or cousin.
He said he and his partner, Norma Boyd – the mother of Hayden and Glen – had cautioned the boys about the dangers of walking on the train tracks.
"Being the older brother he must've thought that he could lead them up there and back home safely," Mr Duncan said.
"As boys are, you tell them not to do something and it's very hard for young boys to take that on board.
"If we could have read their minds and stopped them we would have."
The Duncan family has lost three members in the past two months with the boys' brother, 18-year-old Joseph, killed on January 9 while he was a passenger in a stolen car that crashed during a police chase.
An appeal has been launched to pay for the boys' funerals, which are expected to be held next week. | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/13/2006 12:21:27 AM | i dont know why they arent going to get state funding... might be coz they have applied for it already this year with the eldest....
i really dont know how much they are going to get out of it though... i know it has touched alot of hearts... but these things happen... regardless of race you are.
i remember the mother saying... i can understand with the eldest why it happened... but to lose my baby... im heart broken... and that is when she started to cry.... they held it together quite well actually.
the also have another 2 kids at home... but they said they were a family of 8... so i dont know how that is adding up.
channel 10 had a good report.... i dont know about the other channels... simpsons are on... | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/13/2006 1:19:27 AM | I feel for the mother and father and what they are going through but I also feel for the train driver.
I have a friend of mine who is a train driver and on the Gawler Central line each day someone tries and commits suicide and achieves there goal of dying and sadly well what can I say he said he hit someone and I will give you a run down what a train driver feels.
Initially they see the person near the tracks and then a bang sound is heard and nothing is thought of it and he continues to drive on (yes legally they don't have to stop if they can't I mean if another train is pretty much close behind) anyway you back to the depot you are told you have run over someone the thought in your mind "Oh s*it are they alright" and then they tell you he or she is dead and do you want counselling.
Most train drivers elect not to do counselling because they are males and somehow it is a macho thing not to do. Anyway around two weeks later you have nightmares and then you take off 6 months from work because of the stress that happened you go and see the counsellor and also psycharitrist and they give you tranquiliser's (to not make you go crazy- but you aren't going back to driving yet) then they give you sleeping tablets.
It takes around a full 12 months to recover and some don't even recover and retire from train driving all together or become either administration officers or ticket checkers or inspectors.
My mate tells me most train drivers now where the well "hot spots" are for trepassers and suicides and it wouldn't surprise you that also some late trains in Sydney are because of suicides because for the month of August 2004 on the Cityrail network in Sydney there was four suspected suicides or 0.12 per 1 million passengers.
Sadly what goes through a train drivers mind is of course a train can't swevre and he sounds his horn and puts the emergency brake but its just too late. | |
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| So Sad and Tragic Posted: 3/13/2006 5:39:04 AM | this story just keeps getting worse the more they have of it on the news.... they had beatie say about parents taking responsibilty for their kids and know where they are at all times... pretty much.. so it doesnt happen again.... the father of the brothers turned around and said to that... well i'll like him to take of 6 kids and then lets see how he handles it.... if people heard that comment... they wont get alot for the appeal for the 2 boys.... and child services will look into their parenting.... the plead for the appeal came right after what the father said as stated above...
Im going to take a huge assumation here... but people might say how sad this has happened... but why have so many kids if you cant care for them and not want to have the responsbility to pay for funerals... coz they are paying for the eldest brothers still.
it funny but now the parents are involved with the media... the tale is starting to unravel....as to why they were there in the first place.
is this really put down to simply bad parenting? | |
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