| Jill Carrol
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:01:32 PM | | I am so happy she was released..I cried. Alot of people from all over the world have had prayers answered. Whatever religion they happen to be. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:08:09 PM | | That is good news. I figured for sure they'd kill her. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:12:10 PM | | Part of me thought so too. I find hope for the world by her release. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:24:01 PM | I am glad she is safe...but slam me if you want...the whole thing sounds..unusual.
Had I been a hostage, a iraqi political party office would of not been the first place I headed...
More like any American troops in the area or Red Cross, and with what happened to Jessica Lynch.just makes me wonder.
As far as I know most or the hostages there are beaten or killed, I can't recall any allowed to walk away, on their own.
If there have been, then I stand corrected. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:51:26 PM | | Can you say 'Stockholm Syndrome'? | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:52:37 PM | | Her case was not over sensationalized..it was kept quiet for the most part. She wasn't a soldier..she was a reporter. Interesting that it appears alot of radical groups were also asking for her release. There have been a few reporters (the european woman) who have been released. It was handled quietly without politics, without GW's, Rumsfeld or any of the others' "help". She was someone who reported without taking sides. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:54:22 PM | | I could say it but perhaps you will elaborate..? | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 2:00:08 PM | >Had I been a hostage, a iraqi political party office would of not been the first place
>I headed...
According to the story, the hostage takers dropped her off in front of that building. She was probably so dazed and confused (no pun intended) she walked into the first place that she saw. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 2:56:42 PM | I am sure you are familiar with the term, so I will only say that she was gushing a bit towards her captures. Odd for someone to behave as such when they threatened to chop her head off not once but twice. I am sure her parents think otherwise.
I see where she has a good command of the language, I am sure that is what saved her. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 3:35:18 PM | why don't people do thread searches?! thanks a lot, NOT.
much debate over her being there in the first place, who she was working for, etc.
of course it's a great thing she was freed, but there is so much MORE to this particular story. and tom fox was killed just days ago, sadly...
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts3084415.aspx
Carroll has had work from Iraq published in the Monitor, AJR, U.S. News & World Report, an Italian news wire and other publications. She has been interviewed often on National Public Radio.
Carroll is the fourth Western hostage to be freed in eight days. On March 23, U.S. and British soldiers, acting on intelligence gained from a detainee, freed Briton Norman Kember, 74, and Canadians James Loney, 41, and Harmeet Singh Sooden, 32, from a house west of Baghdad.
The three belonged to the Christian Peacemakers Teams group and had been kidnapped with an American colleague, Tom Fox, 54, on Nov. 26. Fox was killed and his body was dumped in western Baghdad on March 9. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 4:06:37 PM |
According to the story, the hostage takers dropped her off in front of that building. She was probably so dazed and confused (no pun intended) she walked into the first place that she saw.
By Dan Murphy and Scott Peterson | Staff writers of The Christian Science Monitor
Thursday, Carroll's captors simply drove her to Amariyah, stopped the car, pointed her in the direction of the Iraqi Islamic Party (IPP) office at about 12:20 p.m. local time and then drove off.
There are so many different stories circulatating about what happened, and perhaps she is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
Yes, there is another thread on this subject, and I did participate, and also faced some very stiff criticism for my views, so I posted here instead.
Good thing is she will be able to get home soon and be with her family, hopefully the rest of the people there, will be able to come home soon. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 4:36:36 PM | | Who knows ther emay hav ebene some behind the scenes talks going on. With he rbieng directe dto a IIP office jsut days after the UN condems iran I wodner if Iran is palying a secret quid pro quo with the US or at least trying to. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 8:16:52 PM | Can you say 'Stockholm Syndrome'?
George-bush syndrome? Nah....she's cured.
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/3084415datingPostpage2.aspx
THIS IS A DUPLICATE THREAD | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 8:36:09 PM | | Actually since she was RELEASED today..a duplicate thread of that would be impossible. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 8:56:05 PM | No, we've been chatting about her from when she was first abducted.
Softedge started the original thread.
I personally made a prediction on the other thread that she would
be released unharmed.......that was a no brainer by the way.
But whatever. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 9:52:36 PM | | I really didn't think her life would be spared. I said only a act of god would that happen. Some where someone put God first. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 9:53:34 PM | | well then maybe you as well as softedge should have stuck with your original post instead of coming to this one. Since both of you seem to have a problem with mine. That way you could both stick with making predictions..really, why bother posting here? Just to try to insult? I would venture to guess her parents and sister did not think it a no brainer. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 9:57:15 PM | sammy, I think alot of people around the world were praying..it is amazing.
That is the most important thing not who started a thread on a pof forum. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/30/2006 9:57:29 PM | I really didn't think her life would be spared. I said only a act of god would that happen. Some where someone put God first.
And how is this a bad thing? Sorry thought you were refering to me. Boy am I red in the face. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/31/2006 2:31:06 AM |
I will only say that she was gushing a bit towards her captures.
dallas: Actually, she was sympathetic to their point of view before being abducted outside the Iraqi Islamic Party office, where she was scheduled for a meeting related to a story she was developing. I'm not sure this is a classic case of Stockholm syndrome.
~ Panda | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/31/2006 5:37:12 AM | | I think our country has the syndrome. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/31/2006 8:18:02 AM | i think many in our country IS representative of the syndrome.
the morally self righteous fluff, the refusal to be realistic, the burying head in the sand or head in the cloud oblivion, the refusal of obligation or resposibility, etc.
it is insidious, it is ignorant and it is overwhelmingly apathetic and pathetic at the same time. | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/31/2006 8:30:46 AM | Well, Jill Carroll did better than the women and children of Iran who had their arms, legs and heads blown off by being what we call "collateral damage" or what the insurgents call "martyrs".
It was very fortunate for her that she was considered to be of some political importance... otherwise we all know what would have happened... | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/31/2006 4:38:53 PM |
Actually, she was sympathetic to their point of view before being abducted outside the Iraqi Islamic Party office, where she was scheduled for a meeting related to a story she was developing. I'm not sure this is a classic case of Stockholm syndrome.
Thats right she was very critical of the United states being there and she was/is very critical of the troops themselves.
Here are some excerpts from her interview...interesting.
Freed Reporter Expected to Go to Germany By VANESSA ARRINGTON, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 32 minutes ago.
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Jill Carroll, described as "emotionally fragile," went reluctantly to Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone — the place her captors had warned her was infiltrated with insurgents — and spent Friday in seclusion, recovering from 82 days of captivity.
In a video posted on an Islamist Web site and recorded by her captors before she was freed, the 28-year-old freelancer for The Christian Science Monitor — dropped off Thursday outside the offices of a Sunni political party — spoke out against the U.S. military presence.
She said the insurgents were "only trying to defend their country ... to stop an illegal and dangerous and deadly occupation."
Carroll appeared tense at times in the video. She said her captors, whom she called the mujahedeen, had treated her very well — "like a guest" — and that she thought the "mujahedeen are the ones who will win in the end in this war."
"He knows this war was wrong," she said. "He knows it was illegal from the very beginning. He knows that it was built on a mountain of lies. I think he needs to finally admit to the American people and make the troops go home."
She said that "terrible things are happening" to the women in Abu Ghraib prison, but that the mujahedeen were different from the Americans.
"The mujahedeen are merciful and kind," she said. "That's why I am free and alive."
Was this a kidnapping or a friendly get together?...
the mujahedeen were different from the Americans.
"The mujahedeen are merciful and kind," ....Really now | |
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| Jill Carroll
Posted: 3/31/2006 4:49:48 PM | thanks cougar, for some eye opening realities.
interesting, to say the least, eh?
maybe, just maybe, she IS somewhat much more of a peace keeper than even i firstly suspected. how many of us against this war would bring ourselves to do the same?
not many, i venture to guess.
i canl only comment on what i think of her being there on the behalf of the christian science monitor, in that i get the idea that at least she, unlike the majority of christian fundamentalists, really dug her heels in, in a most controversial way, rather than just flapping her mouth about her beliefs and making a quick and fat bank account, although surely when all is said and done she will have all sorts of media attention and book deals pouring in.
somehow i don't see this as her foremost reasoning for actually going over there in the first place. her work has done more than so many politicians who sat fat in wealth and greed in the comforts of their own homes and workplaces while weaving with the politicos.
and why, why is it taking so long for her to get back, stateside?
why did her family not fly immediately to her side upon hearing of her release?
what did she actually endure if she was treated as a "guest?"
so many questions, so many opinions, so many divergent realities.
at least she was able to live her life as she chose, and for the cause as she saw fit, and was released as she was undoubtedly recognised as being a wrong target for kidnapping.
for all we know, her kidnapping kept her mroe safe and out of harm's way...
i know i will be jumped on for that, but, what do we REALLY know, other than that which the various media outlets feed us? | |
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