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Posted: 4/6/2006 9:09:30 PM | Is a pickup 4x4 just as good as an suv for off roading, or better? | |
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Posted: 4/6/2006 9:14:45 PM | Pickups are only fun for 4x4 if you're sitting in the box but quads are the way to go  But outta the two you said...pickups I think. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2006 9:17:49 PM | Im leaning more towards the pickup too, more room in the back.  I just dont know what handles better off road and an suv might be easier to put big giant shock obsorbers on? | |
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Posted: 4/6/2006 10:03:50 PM | well I have been 4x4ing in both, and I'll just say it depends on the type of SUV, the type of truck, the driver, the road and the insanity level.
Dont go up the side of a mountain on a bicycle path in a Dodge Ram 4x4
but dont go mud bogging in a pissant little tracker.....lol (funny little SUV, for kids who think graded dirt roads are boonie bashing)
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Posted: 4/6/2006 10:22:39 PM | lol oh no it'll mainly be logging roads with huge dips in the road that would scrape the radiator off a van or car. Thats why Im getting rid of the van and getting a 4x4 truck or suv. I'll probally get a winch for it at some point to. If its good for muddy roads to that will be a cool plus. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2006 10:42:52 PM | | Trucks are better, suvs are for soccer moms (no offense to anyone) | |
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Posted: 4/6/2006 11:08:01 PM | If that's your plans whitey2...go with the truck. My bro has an explorer 4x4 and it's awesome but just doesn't give it the full feeling of 4x4ing cuz you're sitting in a comfy seat with a few extra luxuries that a truck doesn't have. If you want the true 4x4 feel go for the truck...imo  Don't get me wrong...the suv is nice but not the same...maybe that's cuz I grew up 4x4ing with trucks & quads haha | |
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APG
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Joined: 3/22/2006
Msg: 8 | |
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Posted: 4/7/2006 5:05:48 PM | I'll chime in here, cause I actually know something about this...lol.
1st, there's a few different types of "off roading". If you want to drive on a FSR (forest service road) you can take a 2-wheel drive car, lol...
If you want to play in the mud, say Stave Lake, you'll need a truck, 4x4, with 1 ton running gear (i.e. heavy duty pickup), mud boggers and lockers.
If you want to go rock crawling, it's a toss up. Any decent truck based SUV (read: body on frame, like nissan xterra, older blazer, etc. not unibody style) can handle some rock crawling. Obviously to the extent to the traction/power/suspension flex.
Last type of off-road we don't really have here which is dune's (desert racing, etc.) so no need to go into that.
Whatever you want to try make sure you have a spare, a winch (a come-along, hand winch for 50 bucks is fine...), tow straps, first aid kit, and someone who knows 4x4-ing. Stave lake is great, people are friendly and will always pull you out if youre stuck. Preferred payment is a beer ;O)
Anyhow, if you want to get into 4x4-ing or are just curious, have a looksy on:
http://www.bc4x4.com/
Great bunch of folks and good info source.
this is good too:
http://www.bcoffroad.com/
Anyhow, hope this helps. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2006 5:16:49 PM | | great thanks for all the feedback. One more thing, do most people go with a v8 or is a v6 fine? | |
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Posted: 4/7/2006 6:28:23 PM | | I can put my 2 cents in here as well. I have a 1 ton pick up with 42 inch swampers and lockers front and rear with a 12000 lb winch up front. I have never gotten stuck (yet) but it rides like hell on the pavement and gets 5 mpg so you have to decide what is more important to you.If you get a stock truck and try to use it hard in the bush you will just end up breaking things . Then you get in the cycle of making improvements and breaking different things. Better off getting a good quad and a trailer to haul it with. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2006 8:38:39 PM | | if you're interested in a quad you should check out www.quads.ca for some good tips on atvs and places to ride them | |
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kevpak
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Joined: 10/4/2005
Msg: 12 | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 8:23:37 AM | I,ve ben wheelin for quite a while. The one thing you gotta remember if you aint doin the work yourself its a very expensive hobby. I would advise everyone to get an older truck if you plan on doin more than forestry roads. another great site is funinbc. great place to find people to wheel and camp with all over bc. I got a 87 ford with 1 ton runnin gear and 44inch swampers (pic in profile) i always get stuck and brake stuff but thats half the fun. there are always well built rigs for sale and most wheelin guys would help you out with any questions in the local sites. Are you lookin at it being your daily driver too? What kinda $ are u lookin at spendin? bc4x4 always has some pretty nice rigs for sale and usually reasonably priced.............oh ya i wouldnt wheel a v6 unless it was light, but mine aint a daily driver. (itsa 460 bigblock) and im lucky to get 5 mpg thank god for 2 tanks | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 12:42:35 PM | | Truck all the way!! I love my truck!! (no its not a 4X4 but I can still do logging roads in it cause its an old brute! Works like a charm...just not as purdy as she used to be...hey! is that me? or the truck? hmmmmmmmm...both I suppose!!) | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 2:09:47 PM | heh...i get a kick out of all these big trucks and their owners...
not only are you shelling out way too much for gas...you're also polluting for no good reason, and messing up the world for future generations.
maybe try looking a little further ahead than redneck sports.
don't get me wrong, i understand that there's a need for larger vehicles...contractors need to get their supplies to places they're building, i haul several hundred pounds of freight around the coast Mon-Fri, and there are many other reasons to own a big, inefficient vehicle.
...but when you're daily driver is some kinda monster truck? well...perhaps you're compensating for something...or perhaps you just don't care that the high levels of pollution we have already in Vancouver are contributing to higher instances of athsma, allergies and respiratory problems. | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 2:40:10 PM | | lol, you look like youve got a big gas guzzling van from the pic. Probally a v8? | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 2:44:29 PM | yep...for work. V6 actually, company's van. i go out loaded to the roof with freight...and come back at least 1/2 full. so...until the day that people decide they no longer want parcels delivered, or their financial records updated and archived, those vans will be needed.
and that's what i was trying to get across before...a need versus a want. you, and like-minded people want to play with a big truck in the mud...whereas everyone needs their financial information to be correct. | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 3:08:28 PM | We keep roads clear and because we do that herds of meese and deer can trek further.  | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 3:55:43 PM | | I make my living in the oil and gas industry so when i use more fuel i am just creating job securety | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 3:57:12 PM |
I make my living in the oil and gas industry so when i use more fuel i am just creating job securety
i'm going to assume that you're kidding about the job security thing...because if you were serious, that would truly be sad. | |
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Joined: 10/4/2005
Msg: 20 | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 5:33:51 PM | Well if you really new much about the air quality, you would know that ever since aircare and the newer vehicle emmissions we're at an all time low for pollution. If a red neck can afford somthing and can take pride in building somthing of his own who are you to knock him. My truck is my company vehicle so if i dont burn gas, break-it, build-it , and have to repair it i give the money to the government. (repairs and the building of a car or truck under your company are a 100% write-off) What is truly sad is a courier, whom is probably workin for peanuts and in a job that is harmful to the enviroment thinks he can slam others for enjoying there lives a certain way, that he would never be able to afford!!! Oh well, the day i start worryin about fuel costs is the day im outta business. (monthly fuel bill of $9000) : But as long as i enjoy myself and gotta smile on my face, isnt that what truly matters!!!!!!!
(And canuckswon i too contribute to your job security ya owe me a brew lol) | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 5:40:49 PM | Well if ya want to buy me a new truck Capt. I will gladly not drive my ol bruiser, but it sure did its job haulin hay and draft horses in a trailer!! | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 6:07:29 PM | oooh...now it's getting good!
this is what i like. debate.
like i said before...i totally understand business use. it makes sense. it's when these high-emission vehicles are being used for trips to the mall, picking up the kids...or otherwise as a personal use vehicle, that i can't understand the mentality.
why would someone purposely pollute more than they have to? it just doesn't make sense. it's that type of "in the moment" thinking that's gotten us where we are today...decreasing ozone, global warming, rising fuel costs, and the very possible reality of running out of fossil fuels in the next 75-100 years.
can anyone truly justify that?
...and as to the "working for peanuts" comment...maybe i don't make as much as you, and i'm ok with that. if making more money than me makes you feel good about yourself, then you may make up any figure you like, and we'll pretend that's what i make. | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 6:20:14 PM | Because your not rich enough to own 2 vehicles. Also the melting in the arctic due to co2 emmisions is still a theory. Its not based on fact. So there could be another reason for that happening.
ps. the earth being flat was once a popular theory. | |
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kevpak
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Joined: 10/4/2005
Msg: 24 | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 6:40:59 PM | | If you truly believe that we will still be driving cars that use fossil fuel in 75-100 years than i guess you should worry. (i dont think we will be) As for pollution, If we all truly believed in saving the enviroment and had your same mentality, tourism would stop and so would the economy. You do know jets, cruise ships, buses, and many other sources of tranportation are as harmful as automobiles so if we can't drive our trucks i guess all non business travel shouldn't be allowed either. Ya your right even though our air quality is as good as its ever been we shouldnt waist our natural resourses. The only reason fuel is so high is supply and demand, they've shrunkin the supply so theres increased demand (higher prices) As for polluting more than we have to, its human nature to look for enjoyment in life, and most people who 4x4 love the enviroment. We have clean up runs in our trucks multiple times a year and all the bc clubs use the words YOU BRING OUT WHAT YOU BRING IN !!!! Some of the best times wheelin is just gettin to places that 99% of the others will never get too. If a guy is using his lifted truck as a daily driver you are right he aint all there, but not everyone can afford 2 or more vehicles................Oh well sarcasmo i've read your your posts before and u are pretty good for entertainment but wow not always all there........ | |
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Posted: 4/8/2006 7:20:05 PM | Oh ya, if I only had to pay for one insurance plan and could use both vehicles, then I would have a import car, and a truck eventually. Gas is expensive.  Complain to ICBC so I can do this.  | |
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