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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 4:03:38 AM | Why wouldnt it be?
3 1/2 hours + in a 130+ degree race car, no half time, no changing drivers every 2 minutes, no time outs, physicly demanding on the upper body, more so than alot of stick and ball sports.
My friend said it best when he said "I like racing because football and baseball only require one ball."
Maybe if a 1/4 back starts getting sacked at 200 MPH or they can get the zamboni up to 195 mph around a hockey rink, I`ll start watching those sports too. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 4:58:59 AM | | Isn't NASCAR the only true team sport there is? What other sport is as physically demanding on an athlete...and yes they are athletes from the drivers to the pit crews and a lot of the 'guys in the shop'... plus these athletes don't get paid if they don't race. Unlike in those other sports where they get paid even if they are sitting on the sidelines. I also believe that the season in NASCAR is longer than any other sport which means that the athletes of NASCAR need to really be in shape. GO, DALE JR.!!! | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 5:14:01 AM | | NOT A SPORT!! i can sit on the shoulder of the Garden State Parkway and watch people drive like idiots for free all day. it takes lots of talent to turn left. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 8:49:32 AM | it's definitely a sport... not one that I admire... because I believe the automobile is the most wasteful thing in the history of the human race.. with the possible exception of war... Just think of how much resources we put into building things for automobiles that would be totally unnecessary if we had adequate public transportation...
... and why do we have to go so fast?
Don't people DIE every day doing this?
It's ironic... we have an evolved trait of fear when it comes to spiders.... and maybe once every ten years in the US someone might die of a spider bite... but when it comes to cars, where THOUSANDS of people die; we have NO fear of moving fast..... like 70, 80 mph... on freeways with trucks, potholes.. drunk drivers.. you name it...  | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 9:50:33 AM | if they see poker and bridge as sport, then hell yeah ... anything could be sport ... new on the next summer olympic event: speed tv remote surfing ...
but seriously ... if they look at 'skill' and 'talent', I guess they could consider car racing as a sport ... it does involve hand-eye coordination as well ... not as much as playing bridge, tho, you really have to have great hand-eye coordination and physical skill to correctly place those cards on the table ... | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 10:53:26 AM | Nascar a sport? Just like any other type of car and truck racing. HELL YES!
The eye hand corridination that it takes is not easy. The tremendous about of heat these people endure for the length of time out there is sick. They have to have great physical stamina to do what they do.
There isn't a person on this forum who could handle doing it.
If you say otherwise. You do not know what your talking about. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 10:56:30 AM | If Nascar is a sport....than my morning and nightly commute to and from work everyday is a sport also.
However nascar is a "motor" sport... and none no other. Take the motor out of the vehicles than maybe if the drivers and pit crews were pushing the cars around the track than maybe a legit athletic sport. Xbox players I guess are probably athletes too then.
What will happen to all motor sport after fossil fuels are gone like the dinosaurs?
I mean no offence to anyone with anything I say here ok....JMHO | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 11:44:53 AM | Do you go 190 on your mourning commute?
And are you covered nearly head to toe in a flame retardant suit? Or however you say it.
Do you?
I'm doubting it.
You couldn't do it. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 12:11:51 PM | Sure it can be considered a sport...if you look at the abilities you need to be able to drive around turning left all the time 
If horse racing can be a sport then Nascar definately is a sport. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 12:20:58 PM | | Yes Nascar is a sport!!!! THink about all the little things that they have to take into consideration while racing. Track condition, weather, performance, and so much more, not to mention its not easy to drive a race car without power stearing. LOL One small mistake makes a big difference in being first or last. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 1:00:58 PM | Yes it is absolutely a sport, My dad drove super late models for years and have a few thousands laps around various track myself in some fast cars, and by the time you get out your arms and shoulders are usually aching and you can barely keep them up, if your on an oval your neck is killing you from the G forces plus the weight of your helmet, if your on a road course it's even worse, and Dragracer99 mentioned the heat and 130 degrees can be a low estimate. Sit in that for 3,4 or 5 hours and your done just like a chicken.
Don't forget about the advanced reaction times, increased mental concentration while travelling at race speeds up to and over 200 mph and almost 340 mph if your a drag racer, all skills of an advanced athlete.
Hey Prada, is WWE a sport? I can sit on my couch all day and watch men in tights and silly outfits play fight until the pre-determined winner is victorious. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 2:31:24 PM | | Its considered a sport, but i dont think it should be. Almost all the tracks are exactly the same. Oval. At least in F1 you have to make a right turn as well as a left. more strategy in F1. Poker is considered a sport because there many varietys of ways to play and win | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 2:38:47 PM | All the tracks are very ,very different. The majority of the Nascar ovals are 1.5 miles and all of them have different configurations, different banking, different climates which has a huge impact on how the cars handle, then they have the 2 half mile tracks which are completely different from each other, their 3 biggest tracks Daytone 2.5 miles, Talledega 2.66 miles and Pocono a 2.5 mile tri oval all again with different bankin, and don't forget the 2 road course tracks plus the new one in Mexico that the Busch series runs on.
What I think Nascar needs is more tracks 1 mile and smaller like Dover, Phoenix and maybe a 3/4 mile high bank track.
actually much less strategy in F1 as the winner usually only has to compete againt less than 24 cars, fewer number of pit stops, and if you don't start in the top 2 rows you really don't have much hope in winning unless the leaders crash or blow up. It used to be so bad that they could have thrown the checkered flag at the first turn on lap 1 F1 was so boring at one point, but they are all athletes. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 2:50:46 PM | Nascar is definitely a sport. Its athletic competition. If you dont think that the drivers are athletes than drive your car around on a hot summers day with your windows up so its about 130 dgrees and see if you have the stamina to do this for 4 or 5 hours while driving 150 mph. There are people who say that drivers aren't athletes, well Redskins coach Joe Gibbs has stated numerous times that drivers are athletes, but than again what does a Super Bowl winning coach know about athletes? And... not only are the drivers athletes but the crews are also... pradagirl, while your sitting on the side of the Parkway have 7 friends change 4 tires and put 2 cans of gas in your car while the other cars are going by at 55 mph, and btw, do it in 15 seconds.
Just because they dont use a ball, doesnt mean it isn't a sport and the drivers aren't athletes. In a day when you hear about players from sports missing games with a sprained this or twisted that, consider this..... Ricky Rudd had a terrible crash at Daytona in the Busch clash and raced the next day in the Daytona 500 with his eyes so swollen that he had to have them taped open and he then won the following week at Richmond with his eyes still almost swollen shut.
BTW.... the definition of sport is "physical activity engaged in for please". thats kind of a loose definition, but Nascar definitely fits into that, but then again so does sex, so should the next question be..... Is sex a sport????? 
oh... and shananigins.... the cars do have power steering | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 2:58:56 PM |
Poker is considered a sport because there many varietys of ways to play and win
POKER IS NOT A SPORT ITS A GAME!!!!
Video games should be a sport too if that is the definition of a sport.
I`m not going to try to convince anyone that auto racing is a sport because I didnt start this thread and its hard to convince stick and ball fans that it is because of their ignorance to it.
The only thing I will say is that if you think its easy to drive a race car, go to one of those indoor go kart tracks and do 20 laps and see how you feel after. I`m not talking about one of those family outdoor tracks. Go to the ones where they go about 40 to 50 MPH. You will be worn out after about 10 laps if you have never done it before. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 6:26:17 PM | sport (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
b. A particular form of this activity.
2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
3. An active pastime; recreation.
4.
a. Mockery; jest: He made sport of his own looks.
b. An object of mockery, jest, or play: treated our interests as sport.
c. A joking mood or attitude: She made the remark in sport.
5.
a. One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially of a game, or of a difficult situation: a poor sport.
b. Informal One who accepts rules or difficult situations well.
c. Informal A pleasant companion: was a real sport during the trip.
6. Informal
a. A person who lives a jolly, extravagant life.
b. A gambler at sporting events.
7. Biology An organism that shows a marked change from the normal type or parent stock, typically as a result of mutation.
8. Maine See summercater. See Regional Note at summercater.
9. Obsolete Amorous dalliance; lovemaking.
v. sport·ed, sport·ing, sports
v.intr.
1. To play or frolic.
2. To joke or trifle.
3. Biology To mutate.
v.tr.
To display or show off: "His shoes sported elevated heels" Truman Capote.
adj. or sports
1. Of, relating to, or appropriate for sports: sport fishing; sports equipment.
2. Designed or appropriate for outdoor or informal wear: a sport shirt.
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[Middle English sporte, short for disporte, from Old French desport, pleasure, from desporter, to divert; see disport.]
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sportful adj.
sportful·ly adv.
sportful·ness n. | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/7/2006 9:47:45 PM | To answer two questions. The first: Is NASCAR a sport? Read on to find out. The second question is this: Are NASCAR racers athletes? Same Read on...
We have all seen the Tom Hanks classic movie from the 80s BIG in which he portrays a 13-year old boy whose body, because of a fairground game, develops into that of a 30 year old man. His character Josh Baskin becomes very successful working as an executive for a toy company. In the process another executive Paul Davenport becomes extremely jealous. Paul is upset at Josh and just wants to beat him at something so they go to a court and play "handball". The following is the dialogue of that scene leading up to them playing the game.
Josh: “I’m not very good at sports but I’ll give it a try. My best sport is video hockey.”
Paul: “That’s not a sport.”
Josh: “It takes hand-eye coordination.”
Paul: “It’s not a sport if you don’t sweat.”
Josh: “What about golf? You don’t sweat. That’s a sport.”
Paul: “Yeah, You’re not sitting there letting some machine do all the work.”
Josh: “What about car racing?”
Paul: “Shut up, Baskin!”
Well Paul Davenport was unable or unwilling, to answer that last question. And now that is the question put before me. Is car racing a sport?
What constitutes a sport by definition? Well, we don’t get much help from the Webster’s Dictionary. From that sport, the noun, is defined as “a source of diversion”. From some strange reason, I looked up ‘blood sport’ because it appeared on the same screen, just to see what it would say. The definition for that was “a sport or contest”. So... Webster’s says that ‘sport’ and ‘contest’ are essentially the same. So... how is the word ‘contest’ defined? “A struggle for superiority or victory....”
So... if you don’t mind my re-wording this the definition of SPORT could be “an event in which contestants struggle in an attempt to win.”
What happens in NASCAR and how does NASCAR fit into the above definition of sport? Well... each of 36 weeks 43 racers get into their cars and drive around a track a predetermined number of times with the ultimate goal of being a victor, of crossing the finish line first. So... the only part of the definition we need to explain is the “struggle”.
Is there a struggle involved? Well, this is where we will attempt to answer the second question. Are these car drivers athletes? One argument against NASCAR actually being a sport is that anyone can drive a car (anyone who can drive a stick shift, at least.) in a big oval.. anyone can turn left. Anyone can sit on their butts for 5 or 6 hours at a time. Let’s take a minute to look at what this struggle involves.
First of all imagine for a minute that you are driving down a busy highway, in a metropolitan city, going the 55 mph speed limit as rush hour is approaching. Cars are swerving in front of you from either side. You’re frequently alternating between the brake pedal and the gas pedal. Now... imagine this same scenario... however... at three to four times that speed. Then... add in hellacious corners where the g-forces are ripping away at your innards. Realize that these cars have no air conditioning... and the temperatures are usually well over 100 degrees. There are physical stresses as mentioned to go along with the mental stress knowing that any wrong move made by you or any other racer on the track could cause serious injury, even death. There are no time outs... no halftimes... no second chances... and no challenges.
To me, an athlete is one who endures physical and mental stresses throughout the course of any sanctioned event. So... are NASCAR drivers athletes? In one word... YES.
But is NASCAR a sport? Let’s just go right to our above definition, “an event in which contestants struggle for a win.” By this definition, the answer to the question is also a definite YES.
My contention still remains as before, as it always has, and probably always will. We can not classify NASCAR as a sport in the same way we classify the “Big Four” sports (baseball, football, basketball and hockey)you can also include running sports here.... I think there should be distinctions made. Those sports have a ball or puck, so we’ll call them ball sports. (I’ll still refer to them as the major sports) The other classification of sport should be called racing sports. Motor sports such as NASCAR would be a classification within the same area as track.
I read a quote recently that was almost a poem, or a tongue-twister. I’m not really sure:
“Is NASCAR a stupid sport
or,
Is stupid a NASCAR sport?
All in all NASCAR is a stupid sport.”
With that in mind, I will formally acknowledge that NASCAR is indeed a sport and that its racers can be called athletes. However, I ask that those who read this acknowledge one thing as well. Acknowledge that it is not fair to compare ball sports with racing sports AND it is not fair to compare the athleticism of a basketball, football or any ball sport player to the athleticism of a car racer.
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/8/2006 3:15:58 AM | Okay,,,,,,,,I can see the point of Nascar and the term sport! With that being said,Why is the movie industry,the only industry in this or any other nation that awards it's self??????Hence WHY ASK WHY!!!!!!! Driving for a single reason to be the very first and only one at the end of a lap isn't an easy task for any human! Nor is hitting over 735 home runs in a life time! Nor is putting a rubber oblong ball in winter over a field goal post! Either a small round rubber puck in a net an easy thing to do on a 1/4 inch steele shoe with other guys tryin too stop you from doing so! Or a ball in a hoopnet!? I dare you too go too any race track and try too sit in a car and see if you get permission too cruise it around a while! Let alone the cost of a race car! It won't be done unless your related!Even then,it's not as easy as it seams of a task too accomplish!Sport,my friends is sport! Tickets is what sells a sport! You can't see the Cubs at the ball park with out a ticket as they play the White Sox,unless your @ a bar watching it on t.v.! Same thing with the Bears & Bulls & Blackhawks! So is a movie life???Or reality????Or a reality baced on life?????AGAIN WHY ASK WHY??????  I have too wonder will Nascar ever become an Olympic event in the not so distant futcher??????????!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/9/2006 6:00:01 AM | thanks to mysterious for having explained me what nascar is,well in my opinion it may be a sport but not a real one.tennis is a sport (remember Andree Agassi,the great Pete Sampras)basketball is a real sport (remember Michael jordan) football is a sport (watch any match,say,Manchester United against Liverpool,Arsenal against Tottenham Hotspurs or Glasgow Rangers against Celtic) | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/9/2006 6:57:44 PM | | Like some others, I tried to use Webster to bail us out on this one, but the dictionary aint much help this time. Maybe we have to decide among ourselves what constitutes sport. Forget the preparation of players and autos. Gladiators did the same thing preparing for a fight. They kept themselves and their weapons in peak condition, much the same as do Nascar drivers. Admittedly they might not have done this in the earlier days, when preparation meant getting the liquor done right and the engine hot. Now in a gladiatorial combat event, men "competed" for the opportunity of "winning" and receiving a "prize". In their case, their lives, whereas with drivers its a trophy and cash. This may be an unanswerable question, or at least one we could debate ad nauseum. But for my part, I believe it is most definitely a "sport". | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/10/2006 7:46:19 PM | NASCAR is a race, not a sport. does the race have an athletic component? yes. does that make it a sport? lol, not unless you are a redneck.
a sport (as i define it) involves two teams directly opposing each other. there is one winner and one loser. the purpose of any sport is for one team to score on the other team more than the other team scores on them. all sports are games but not all games are sports.
this definition tosses out games/sporting events like (track & field, swimming, golf, bowling, NASCAR, horse racing, etc.) and keeps sports limited to a specialized type of game which includes (baseball, hockey, basketball, football, rugby, etc.) | |
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| Do you think Nascar can be considered a Sport?
Posted: 4/10/2006 8:13:14 PM | LOL See what I mean by stick and ball fans?
So 43 teams compeating at the same time is not considered a sport? I guess thats just too confusing to you so you stick to the simple games like football and baseball etc where only 2 teams compeat at the same time. Less confusing that way. I understand. | |
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