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Joined: 3/3/2006
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| FILTER: Limit of No More than 2 Posts in last 10 Sequential Posts
Posted: 4/22/2006 4:47:15 PM | In order to maintain the highest quality forums you are restricted to having no more then 2 of the last 10 posts on a thread.
Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread.
Just received that message trying to post to a thread. I think it's a good idea, will help keep the chatter down (yes, myself included from time-to-time  )
Another change for the POF forums!
*disclaimer: this is meant to acknowledge the new rule and nothing more, please don't start flaming the mods or myself, I do think it's a good idea!*
The FILTER: You Cannot Post More Than 2 Replies Within Any 10 Consecutive Posts In A Thread
To All Posters, READ THIS for your quick solution
Post something with substance, other than just one, two or three word replies, then the filter will allow you more than 2 out of the last 10 posts.
If you need to respond to a lot of posters at once, gather your thoughts, quote each member you are replying to, and answer both, or as many as you wish in one post, - problem solved. Many people have already adopted this style, even before the filter was put in place.
Word of caution though, circumvent the auto-filter, and post successive sequential replies, and you will be subject to suspension, depending on severity. See Acceptable Use & Posting Rules with respect to sequential replies - Give others a chance to post after you, before posting again.
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Posted: 4/22/2006 4:49:16 PM | | umm I posted this earlier today lol andjust responded back into it!!! It is a good idea.....but hard to adjust too...now if you have something to say, on topic of course, you have to count theposts lol | |
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Posted: 4/22/2006 4:50:20 PM | | yep...looks like an update on the no more than 4 in a row...no problem with it here | |
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Posted: 4/22/2006 5:26:45 PM | I'm fine with it, the only prob I see is if you have to respond to three people asking you questions! tap your fingers waiting for people to post? | |
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Posted: 4/22/2006 5:42:38 PM | | or wait a few minutes and answer all of them at the same time.............would prob make for long replies though.............smiling | |
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Posted: 4/22/2006 5:57:13 PM | lol I can just imagine the posts looking like this now to be able to answer e1 at the same time(as an example)
@ Kitchnas
@ Lily
@ roxy
@ Dark
@ star
etc ...
with alot of quote's also
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Posted: 4/22/2006 6:05:46 PM | | yep, thats exactly whats gonna happen, LOL. can you even do more then one quote from different posts? | |
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Posted: 4/22/2006 8:55:23 PM |
yep, thats exactly whats gonna happen, LOL. can you even do more then one quote from different posts?
I think you would have to have two browsers open so you could refer back to the thread, then just make sure that you copy and paste the [ quote ] [ /quote ] around each quote you want to make
but I think posts will end up looking like this:
lol I can just imagine the posts looking like this now to be able to answer e1 at the same time(as an example)
@ Kitchnas
@ Lily
@ roxy
@ Dark
@ star
etc ...
with alot of quote's also
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Posted: 4/22/2006 9:34:49 PM | So, what if we use posts 9, 10 and then 1, 2 of the following ten, thus making four posts in a row yet only 4 out of 20?
Edit: If you can only make 2 posts of the last ten... who makes the first eight... nobody according to the rule - LOL!
It's the beer talking (hiccup) | |
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Posted: 4/22/2006 9:40:22 PM | hey i just got my first one 
i wish it would tell you before you type it out... oh well
of course, i think there should be another rule: that dud guy should have one of every three posts, FOR THE HIGHEST QUALITY THREADS lol
speaking of high quality threads, you should see the joggers im wearing right now | |
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Posted: 4/22/2006 10:05:03 PM | Personally I think this is rediculous and taking the fun out of it.................What happened to freedom of speech......................
This site is becoming very much like a dictatorship................................
We have no general chat room, we can't post shit here, and there are more and more rules.....where is the fun in this.............oh wait we have IM's that don't work most of the time and when they do usually it is some a$$hole guy harassing females for sex talk..........
[in which case, we'll cheerfully give you a refund of your membership fee at any time that you choose to leave the forums! :D/pandy] | |
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Posted: 4/23/2006 7:45:15 AM | | I think it's fair. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2006 9:53:32 AM | Personally I think this is rediculous and taking the fun out of it.................What happened to freedom of speech......................
This site is becoming very much like a dictatorship................................
We have no general chat room, we can't post shit here, and there are more and more rules.....where is the fun in this.............oh wait we have IM's that don't work most of the time and when they do usually it is some a$$hole guy harassing females for sex talk..........
I'm with Carmellas! I'm not so sure I like this rule. Some threads justify a succession of messages. Some threads are back and forth situations that are deserving of multiple posts. I really am not a fan of this new rule, but if it must be, maybe they should look into some chat room feature, or dedicate a thread category to that purpose and lift this rule!
In some situations, the people who are affected are the very people who make some threads so fun and interesting. It's sad they lose the right to free speech but, as Carmellas pointed out, I'm not seeing the pervs lose the right to cam me with graphic video and lewd messages!
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Chat? never going to happen here, do a thread search on chat and you'll see why.
Free speech? This has never been a podium for absolute freedom of speech any more than a hotel or restaurant lobby is. They have rules that they expect patrons to follow as privately owned entities, and so do we (as plenty of fish is ALSO privately owned./pandy] | |
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Posted: 4/23/2006 10:03:36 AM | i think its really unfortunate its comes to this but honestly...
how many times did people have to be told
NO CHAT
before they realized the moderators were serious about it
it would have been really nice if people were able to self regulate this rule themselves but i suspect that since some people, unfortunately just dont get the "no chat" rule, this was an easier way to regulate it - hard to have a chatty thread when you cant just post your brains out
to me its just another case of a few rotten apples ruining things for the majority
i just think it sucks that since people couldnt have self control and just follow the rules that this had to happen but i guess it makes sense - this is a FREE site, moderators arent paid so why should they have to repeatedly over and over tell users NO CHAT NO CHAT. I would think that ONE WARNING should be sufficient enough per user. There should be no reason why some people just keep on and on and on.....
I can not think of ANY thread that would justify people having to post back and forth. That sorta sounds like its more a 1on1 conversation and if thats the case, why not take it to instant messenger or email?
I guess to me the better question is, why couldn't people just respect the rules so this type of thing didnt have to happen.
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ps: if you dislike having strange people contact you WHY NOT set your instant messenger up so only people on your contact list can message you | |
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Posted: 4/23/2006 10:18:48 AM | | There is a difference between strangers and strange people... I don't mind if strangers contact me. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2006 10:29:28 AM | Personally I think this is rediculous and taking the fun out of it.................What happened to freedom of speech......................
When you signed up there was a small item called Terms of Service/User Agreement , you agreed to it obviously, or you wouldn't be here posting now. If you didn't agree to it, then why are you here? This site is a privately owned establishment for which you are a guest and again, who agreed to abide by the rules governing this site for which you were extended the courtesy to post on and use.
Much like you have rules for conduct when a guest enters your house, I'm sure if they don't abide by some civil code to which you maintain, they're shown the door - same here. I'm sure if they rant on under a misguided and misunderstood Freedom of Speech notion, you'll still kick their ass out the door, so please spare us the Freedom of Speech veil. This isn't a constitutional democracy, and if you were to school yourself on the Act, it also has it's limitations, much like it does here. No one is preventing you from saying anything, providing it falls within the Terms of Service/User Agreement and the Acceptable Use & Posting Rules.
This site is becoming very much like a dictatorship................................
Rules evolve to meet the changing patterns of use and/or the continued disobeyance of the posted rules, you're quite free to leave if you don't agree with them.
We have no general chat room,
That would be correct, there wasn't an advertised one, so what's the beef? If you want a chat room, Google "chat rooms" there are countless ones out there, you're more than welcome - this isn't one of them.
we can't post shit here,
exactly, if you want to post "shit" go to Usenet, it's totally unregulated
and there are more and more rules.....where is the fun in this
99% seem to do ok with them, the 1% that can't , leave of their own accord or are shown the door if they are bent on having fun "their" way.
.............oh wait we have IM's that don't work most of the time
don't use it then, use one of the more popular heavily funded by $$$ ones.
and when they do usually it is some a$$hole guy harassing females for sex talk..........
So use some common sense and don't have it on to avoid random unwanted messaging. Establish an email relationship first before progressing to IM. That's all in your control and called due diligence, don't put the blame on the site for your lack of prudence. If you have problems with users, there are avenues set out to deal with it.
Short answer is block them and use the "Report User" link at the bottom of their profile, if it becomes persistent, drop a note to the Forum Moderator Account and we'll deal with it. As well, there's a wealth of knowledge over in the Plentyoffish Site/Suggestions/Help Forum
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Posted: 4/23/2006 10:53:20 AM | | i totally agree with you trapped | |
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Posted: 4/23/2006 11:41:42 AM | hmmmm .... what shall i say ... first off i'll start with the title of this novel ... oh wait .. we have one ...
my posts are already long enough as i try to cover as much as i can and respond to ppl as i can think of as i can multitask and can also open two browsers on two monitors and use one to read from to post onto the other ... now i suspect that the majority doesn't have this ability and well .. what can i say .. looking at this so far it's getting long ... guess i'll have my own page for my posts ...
i have been thinking the past week or so about talking to mr big fish himself of some thoughts i have had in which you can "improve" this site ... as free as it is .. money is STILL generated from ALL the ads beside EVERY profile and below last logged in ppl picks .. now correct me if i'm wrong but if there were only 100 ppl on this site .. those advertising companies would not pay a lot for the ads to be posted on this site ... as numbers increase so does the ability to charge more those very same ads ..
i'm not waiting for someone to tell me this is OFF topic for i feel it's all part of the topic ..
When you signed up there was a small item called Terms of Service/User Agreement , you agreed to it obviously or you wouldn't be here now.
it's so easy for someone to post (a mod) that go read the terms of service agreements, but i have run into this once and emailed the mod to ask where exactly is the "Rule" that i am so called infringing on and was given the same address of the terms of service and told to go read them all ... grouping with the 1% that doesn't read the rules ... of wait i know there are more than that but ok .. we ALL agreed to them .. now after reading them once completely .. do i need to go back read them again as i don't recall where i read it and what EXACTLY it says .. hmmm ... i guess i better suggest to myself (before a mod does) that perhaps i should get 'familiar' with the rules so i should maybe spend an hour reading the rules first before posting every day so that i can know ALL the rules ALL the time ...
[I'd suggest at the VERY least, reading those very hard to find rules (very cleverly hidden at the top of each and every forum as they are) until you UNDERSTAND them. I fail to understand why those same users who don't want to go to the effort of familiarizing themselves with the rules are most likely to be the ones who expect moderators to go the extra mile to spoon feed the rules to them. Is thir time so much more important than ours is? ./pandy]
going back to the whole 'marketing' of this site ... without the numbers (meaning US) advertisers wouldn't be paying as much .. so the $$$ sites ... hmmm ... do they have outside advertising ... no that's because ppl who are signed up pay to keep the site running ... here the advertisers do .. sure ... i understand showing one person (or 10) to the door at your home isn't going to make a real impact at the party ... but what if there were 12 ppl at the party ... is two a party?
[There are an average of 6, 000 post per day on this site. I hardly think that Bigfish needs to keep trouble makers on board in order maintain his "numbers". Added to that is the fact that a very few percentage of actual POF members even USE the forums. The forums are responsible for a lion's share of Administrative headaches and a very small percent of the overall traffic./pandy]
going back to me "Emailing a mod" and saying i couldn't find the so called rule i was breaking after having gone through the rules .. of course i didn't read ALL the rules .. but i didn't find anything that related to what the mod had posted to me ...
[let me get this straight... you couldn't be bothered to read the complete set of rules, but you expect a moderator to take the time to patiently explain to you how you broke those rules? /pandy]
moderators aren’t paid so why should they have to repeatedly over and over tell users NO CHAT NO CHAT. I would think that ONE WARNING should be sufficient enough per user.
but when someone says 'after reading it i'm still not sure where it is that i have been quoted about' .. and then get the same link to go read the rules again ... now how many times must one ask over and over to find out which rule they were breaking ...
[\ "of course i didn't read ALL the rules"
...of course this ^^^^wouldn't have been the problem, would it???? /pandy]
Rules evolve to meet the changing patterns of use and/or the continued disobeyance of the posted rules
yes i agree with this ... the 'meet the changing patterns of use' ... this site has party threads ... and those hosting or going to these parties also contribute to them bringing more friends to this site .. i believe every party thread with a sign up button also states that each POF member brings along 3 friends ... this means when the friends enjoy themselves at these parties they too sign up on here adding to the numbers this site boasts to advertisers ... and this does not include those that are met at the bars or other venues which are asked if they are a part of POF .. and when they respond with a "WHAT?" they are encouraged to sign on to this site ... so we the FREE paying members DO pay for this site to be up and running ... not directly ... but indirectly ... nevertheless .. we DO help keep this site up and running ...
those that have been to the parties .. KNOW ... they want to thank ppl they met and had a great time with .. and who wouldn't talk about the party after it was done or right up to the time they walk out the door to go to the party ... has anyone gone to a party (or one they were looking forward to going to) and enjoyed themselves and not discuss it with those that were there? ... if you can say you have gone, enjoyed it a lot, and then not said a word abut it other than ... i enjoyed myself (this too would be considered chat) .. then i think it's fair to say that there should be NO chat ..
i UNDERSTAND the REASON behind the no chat .. it's not to discourage ppl from getting to know each other as a whole ... it has to do with the 'software' .. each post (like this one) goes to the top of the threads with each new thread .. which is great .. and the whole 'chat' keeps the party threads at the top of the list and other "topics" get pushed further down the list ..
one suggestion that i think EVERYONE can abide by is to have the separate party thread ... one that doesn't get posted on the list of threads to the top but only under the 'party' threads ... along with the images ... then there wouldn't really be a need to worry about the 'dictatorship rule of no chat'
[chat will never be allowed here, period. The forums were established for debate, exchange of information, and discussion of ideas, they were never meant to be glorified chat rooms and they won't be.]
those wanting to attend can get all the info on the first page so they dont really need to read 69 pages to find out where they are going ... but others like me (and i'm sure there are a few hundred thousand) that like to know what others have to say before and after the parties ..
just my $0.02 ... although i think it was more like a few bucks
... now i'll just wait for another 4 to post so i can keep my quota for posting every 5th post
     
WHERE'S MY BEER??  
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Posted: 4/23/2006 12:05:06 PM | In a recent thread a user made the comment that "we", being that person's friends, hijack a thread if they don't like the tone of it (to that effect).... it's attitudes like that which cause admin to modify rules.
I've been on this site for approximately a year and have never been suspended or warned..... I'm a good boy who knows how to follow rules ... hell, even my driving record has the highest rating possible (although you wouldn't think so by the ins. rates I pay).
Simply stick within the rules. Breaking the rules and deny responsibility for the infraction or blame admin for having such a rule and you come across as a whiner.
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Posted: 4/23/2006 1:37:48 PM | i think it might make sense to incorporate a time umm... thingy lol here somewhere. you may have 2 of the last 8 posts, but if it was 9 hours ago, thats not much of a chat
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Posted: 4/23/2006 1:56:52 PM | I mod and admin a few forums myself and I can understand the rules and the changes that have been made. You really can't complain until you have been in their shoes. They have an obligation to all the posters here, not just the ones that are most active. When things get out of hand and people are turned away from posting they have to step in and change things up a bit.
I think it's pretty good that this place can run and doesn't cost anyone here a penny, while at the same time make a bit of scratch for the owners. It surely paid off when the skating party ran into trouble and big fish ponied up the cash to get it going again. There are also freebies at the parties, so I hear, it all comes from somewhere.
Chat rooms are nearly impossible to moderate. You think there are trolls here now causing havoc? Just think about them going into chats and disrupting them. The mods here are busy enough chasing down problems in threads. They shouldn't have to be reading through chat transcripts to find what bad thing so and so said to someone else.
Yeah it sucks that some of our freedom here has been taken away from us, but don't blame the mods and admins for it. Blame the people that took advantage of the situation and forced them to act. | |
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Joined: 3/3/2006
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Posted: 4/23/2006 1:59:46 PM | my only question is...is this in effect on the party threads as well? Most of those threads are fueled by 5 or 6 people to get people pumped for the party, that's the only downside I see to this new rule.
And My_Island, if we were all "goody" like you, the world would be a mighty boring world don't ya think? Some of us like to have fun in our lives. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2006 3:26:50 PM | Its my understanding that
YES
this does apply to party threads
unfortunately, people have also been using the party threads as places to chat as well
not only that but games such as "first message on the top of the page" are happening which is NOT the purpose of a party thread
its called a party thread because its about an upcoming party - NOT because you're supposed to be having a party IN the thread
thing is, when a few people keep posting constant chat in party threads it overshadows the legit postings and when newbies try to jump in to ask questions and/or say "i'm going to be attending" their messages just get LOST in the 100's of pages of chat | |
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Posted: 4/23/2006 3:38:33 PM |
thing is, when a few people keep posting constant chat in party threads it overshadows the legit postings and when newbies try to jump in to ask questions and/or say "i'm going to be attending" their messages just get LOST in the 100's of pages of chat
Exactly, and these chat havens were also a source of refuge for the chat "clique". Give an inch and take a mile - it's obvious where that leads to. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2006 3:45:26 PM | Exactly, and these chat havens were also a source of refuge for the chat "clique"
Trapped,
There are no cliques
Noooooooooo, none at all !
Question: Shouldn't the OP be exempt from this rule (it is their topic)? He/she should be able to respond as the posters comment - no?
That would be a question for Admin , but one can answer several or more posts within one reply as it also cuts down on sequential postings /ToB | |
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