| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 9:29:03 AM | Ok I just wanted to get some feedback here. I have the typical stresses of anyone else and I might have had a bad childhood but I've grown from that and I really think my life is heading in the right direction. So where does this depression come from? Every so often I'm just unmotivated and bummed....but I can't focus on whats truely bothering me. I don't feel like going out and I'm having trouble focusing at work. This doesn't happen often but it tends to creep up and I can only think of the things that are bothering me on the surface. Lonliness, work stress, money...ect....
Don't get me wrong...I can put on a face for people. Everyone always thinks I'm this crazy happy person.
Does anyone else have this problem? I've spent most of my life single so I'm not sure if that is the problem. I just think maybe my heart is broken a bit. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 10:43:46 AM | | One the plus side your not cracking nor are you alone I have had the same issue for awhile I've tried to ignore it and it doesn't go away. It took me a few years to do it but I finally talked to my doctor about it and he said there is cases where depression just happens, without cause or reason. Now I take a pill a day and feel better then I used to, though I still have a down day or too. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 7:33:01 PM | SOMETIMES I FEEL DOWN FOR NO REASON IT'S NOTHING BIG I DON'T TAKE NO PILLS FOR IT IT'S JUST THAT SOMETIMES I THINK ABOUT THE PAST AND CERTAIN THINGS JUST MAKE ME FEEL SAD IT'S OKAY TO FEEL DOWN ONCE IN A WHILE IT'S JUST GOOD TO TRY AND FORGET IT AND TRY TO ENJOY YOURSELF AND HAVE SOME FUN HOW YOU FEEL BETTER | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 8:29:22 PM | | Depression is not just brought on by "depressing events" in one's life. It can be a chemical inbalance and their are medications to help you normalize your system. Talk to your doctor if you feel it is interfering with your everyday life. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 8:34:22 PM | | kr8z...we are in a forum bout depression if ya wana go there...check under my nic.. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 8:59:23 PM | One reason for this is simple. It's just that we're all different...
It's not all about personality development and environment and so forth. Much of it is genetic. We have different levels of energy. We eat different diets. We always struggle to conform to the demands put on us by society, the family, the workplace, but we're not all equally equipped to deal with all those things.
Even the concept of being "happy" puts a sort of pressure to perform on us.
What is "happy" anyway?
It's not something we are all the time.
What of a person who's smiling constantly? looking "happy"?
That type of smile is false. It's even called "sardonic". It's an extreme. In fact, a person like this is probably struggling to put up this front.
Happy is on the upside of normal. Sad is below normal. If we're sane, then we're usually somewhere in between those two extremes most of the time, or we're unbalanced.
If you want to get a good perspective on the differences between people, go to the monkey cages in the zoo. They don't act all the same. Some of them are running and swinging and jumping and screaming alot. Those creatures usually eat high energy foods...
then there are others who are leaf eaters and move very slowly... look like they don't really want to move at all. It's not because they're old. It's just their genetic predisposition... it's their "type" of species that acts like this.
Now look at humans and how different one from another WE are. Look how mixed up we are. Look how each one of us is a mixture of different races, different body types, different genetic characteristics.
Don't always assume something's wrong... | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 9:24:18 PM | Hello , I think this is great that being a man yu can talk about it and ask questions.
Anyway yes sometimes depression can happen with out reason.But sometimes it can be post dramatic stress disorder.Sometimes things happen to us a a child or we incountered something very dramatizing as a child or even as a adult and now it creeps up when we are adults.So in that case yu need to.If yu went trough something dramatizing in the past that can now triqure it because it is yur bodies way I telling yu it is ok now to cry or it is ok now not to fight and be strong.I know what i ma talking about because I have strugled with depression.Also sometimes yes yu might now have a good reason but if in all it last more then a few weeks yu need to talk to a doctor because just feeling blue is not the same as depression ok.It sometimes a chemical in balance in yur body caused by drama ,stress and much more.So if people are telling yu hell it is just the blues they don't know what their saying because yes we all have blue days but that is not the same as feeling sad a low for day.Feeling blue past in a couple of day or even a day but depression will last for weeks.
also this are some symtems of depression....Yu can focuse at work,low consentration,When people are talk sometimes yu can keep focuse and yur memeory is not good like it was.
Also low enery level, feeling like yur tired all the time.Yu want to isolate yurself from friends and don't feeling like going out.Also yu lost desire in things yu used to like or love doing.
Yu feel lonely alot inside.
Anyway instead of letting it get that bad yu should talk to yur doctor.
Ps/ also yes money,and lonely ness can start it.But if yur stating not to feel hopefull about life and it is like a pit.Well yu really should talk to yur doctor it will get that bad if yu don't treat it ok.
Good luck | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 10:09:58 PM | I've been suffering from depression for the last 3 years and I know how hard it gets. The type and degree of depression varies tremendously from person to person. Mine ranged from moderate to extreme, and it wasn't the "i'm feeling blue" type, it was what I like to call "passionately depressed". I've learned a lot about depression, and in particular, what depression ISN'T. There are a lot of misconceptions about depression.
1. Depression is disabling.
2. It does not discriminate age, race or gender.
3. It isn't cured by "cheering up" or "looking at the bright side"
4. It isn't just being sad or feeling down. It is far deeper and more painful.
5. It does not need any certain event or circumstance to manifest itself
6. It is treatable, but medications don't work for everyone
Cadeaux has made a lot of good points and you should talk to your doctor, but remember that they only really know how to prescribe medication. It's up to you to find the source of your depression and deal with it accordingly. For me, medication did nothing, counselling did nothing, group therapy did nothing. It took a long, long time of being in a place of constant anguish and suffering but it wasn't until I became convinced that if I didn't fight it back, it would have destroyed me.
You have to win the battle in your mind. The longer you stay in the depressed state, you'll start to move into stages of anger and irrational fits of rage. Depression isn't always being sad, it often does swing into anger. Regardless of all the suggestions people will make to feeling better--meditation, writing a diary, exercising, etc--they are all useless unless you learn that the biggest enemy is your own mind.
The difficult part is, until you get to that point, you may not get out of depression any time soon. It's a sad fact, but some people fight it their entire lives. You may need to hit the proverbial rock bottom before you climb up. That's something those books won't tell you and many people keep wondering why they can't beat it. Books on depression are all about helping you feel better about yourself and are just a candy coated load of BS. There are a few rare books that are good, like Depression Fallout. I highly recommend you read that book because it helped me raise my own understanding.
Until you become convinced that you have to beat it, it will follow you the rest of your life.
And don't forget to keep talking to people about it. Don't let it hide in the shadows. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 10:48:24 PM | | I know exactly what you mean, I'm going through the same thing right now. Actually probably the last 10 years I've felt like that off and on. I could be happy for a few days even months, but would always sink back into it. Self medicated with drinking for a long time, but that's not the answer, then took Paxil for the last few years, but started to feel like I had no feelings. Quit taking it a couple months ago, and feel like it was a bad decision, but at least I'm not on "meds" anymore and that is more important to me this time. I'm trying to figure out why I feel this way, and think it must go back to unresolved issues of my teenage years. I wonder if this goes the same for you, even though you feel like you're grown from your issues, they might still be their deep down. Anyone know the best way to look back into earlier trauma and resolve it? | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/26/2006 11:03:45 PM | Depression is a very hard thing to overcome, I for one have been depressed pretty much all my life, however now I feel great about life in general, growing up was another story, I know what it feels to feel like you have to put on this act for people in order for them not to worry, when you hurt inside, but it was a mixture of things that were happening in my life, parents divorcing, schooling, personal problems and just the fact that I was always lonely and always looked in the mirror and hated what I saw, and no matter what I did
people always saw through my disguises, how can you expect to be loved or love someone when you cant even love yourself, now I look back on things and realize that I had things ok, back to your problem yeah I know how it feels to be single because of your emotional problems, but if you dont know why you are feeling this way then I suggest talkin to someone about it, councelling did wonders for me......good luck | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/27/2006 7:48:57 AM | Thanks alot everyone. Kinda helps to know other people know where I'm coming from. I shouldn't assume that I'm unique in this. About the childhood thing....yeah I had a crappy one but I tell myself I don't regret it. I know alot of my walls come from the past but I am also optimistic in that I am who I am because of life's obsticles. Maybe you are right though. When I open up and tell people what my life was like before 21 they are always concerned. I don't know. I did have a good friend talk to me last night for like 4 hours and we had some great laughs. My mood went up 100% but then I get through the day today and I'm just......blah.
Medications: I did take aderall for a little time and it was great. Anytime I felt down and out, that little pill made me up-beat and productive. Thats why I really believe its a chemical thing and I've been doing alot of research based on that.
Chemical or mental....I've been like this since I can remember and my goal is just to be happy in life. I wish you all the best of luck. Thansk again. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/27/2006 8:20:53 AM | Depression and anxiety are often intertwined. That is, people who are depressed are also likely to be anxious in some situations, eg social scene.
The recent medications -selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs, increase the available serotonin, the feel good neurotransmitter. A medication like that can improve depression and is well tolerated (few side effects).
Yes, depression is partly chemical imbalance, partly genetic, partly sitatutional.
All the best Kra8z.
Counselor | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/27/2006 11:56:28 AM | kr8ztwin-
When was the last time You went to the Doctor and got a complete physical..
something to think about.... | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/27/2006 12:51:50 PM | Oh I've got chronic migraines and I've been to many doctors and had every type of physical. Everything from blood workup to MRI/CAT. Apparently I'm in perfect health in every aspect of my life except that I have chronic migraines hrmm. Its odd for someone to say you are healthy when you feel like your brain is trying to escape through your eye sockets.
I don't think its a health issue at all....just....bummed but to a degree that makes me completely unmotivated and I have to struggle to get out of bed. Whats odd is I'm almost always high energy and crazy (sometimes I use it as a cover though) but it seems I always hit this peek and crash. Most people don't understand it I guess. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/27/2006 1:27:39 PM | Please understand I am not a doctor. But what you are describing sounds more like a manic-depressive cycle. You can research that on the web, but I would recommend that you see a competent psychologyist.
good luck | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/27/2006 1:55:20 PM | | Dear Kr8....Wow can I relate been there, wore that t shirt....Really lots of people suffer from depression, but thier is still a Stigma around it so consider yourself a very smart guy who openly recognizes and speaks out about depression...I have Bi-Polar which is the old Manic Depressive illness. With medication and a good peer support (A Must) people who know where your coming from and will support you on your road to Recovery ...All the best Kid... | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/27/2006 2:27:12 PM | Kr8ztwin-
You may also want to Google....pituitary gland depression
I have two friends that suffer from this...
and also Your thyroid gland
Good luck. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/27/2006 2:45:14 PM | | Everyone...I am serious I appreciate the responses I've had in messeges and here. I'm glad I wrote this post. I thought about it a number of times before. I'll definately look into all your suggestions and I've found some people to talk with that are in my boat. I wish all of you the best of luck too. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/30/2006 4:08:06 AM | | Just noticed your post -- depressed for no reason, plus "kill me now" migraines? Have you ever been tested for the thyroid antibody? If you have it, whether or not your thyroid levels show as being low, ask your doc to put you on a low level of thyroid replacement hormone like Synthroid or Eltroxin. I wasted eight years on antidepressants spending half of every week locked into dark rooms because the tiniest bit of light or noise made the migraines unbearable -- I got on the thyroid hormones and now I have a headache maybe once every three or four months, and the depression is gone. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/30/2006 12:34:29 PM | My depression cycles aren't too bad I take effexor...I hope you can handle realistic messed up random dreams if they put you on this lol some of them are interesting and other yous wake up and ur like what the hell was that ?! lol but it seems to work ok. I was nervous of admitting I had depression because I thought everyone would be like what a loser or he's a wimp but I was like you know what I'm doing this for me not them so they can bite me and did it my way. You can clear this man we all got your back and if anyone wants to give u grief gimme their address and I'll pay them a visist ;) :P muahahahaha ! | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 4/30/2006 1:25:43 PM | going to research both of those...thanks. I have messed up dreams regardless....some really odd stuff :P
yeah some ppl say that "get over it" crap but honestly, I don't care. It also helps when your close friends realize the problem so they don't take offense when you aren't around for 2 or 3 weeks at a time. | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 5/1/2006 7:45:36 AM | I'm just glad to see depression being openly discussed. Some people are so misinformed! Like thinking if you were stronger you wouldn't be depressed. No one tells people with cancer that if they were stronger they'd be cancer free, but for some reason it's acceptable in mental health!
It sounds like you have some good friends. Mine are similar. I've had depression, too. Not fun. Slept alot. It tells you who your friends really are, when they keep calling and know that it's not about them when you're having a bad few weeks.
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 5/1/2006 8:00:05 AM | Hey Kr8ztwin,
I have suffered depression most of my life, and also suffer from those migraines from hell, that push my eye sockets apart! I can fully relate.
Here are some things that i have done to help myself: (i'm not on meds)
1) When i get the first signs of a migraine, i take Advil for Migraine, when taken at the very begining, they work wonders.
2) find out what triggers your migraines, keep a food log, normally its something you've eaten or a smell that triggers it. So keep a log of what you eat, and put an astrix when you get a migraine, you'll be surprised at how many things have to do with something else (mine was bacon, anytime i cooked/ate bacon, i'd have a migraine)
For depression:
1) I keep a journal, sounds kind of childish, but it helps
2) when i start to feel blah, i get up and go throw a tennis ball against the wall, i cook a nice meal, basically just start an activity that keeps your mind focused on something
3) I dont dismiss what i'm feeling, i don't sit down and think "oh i'm fine, get over it"
4) i make it clear to people that tell me "you'll be fine, or you have a great life, what have you got to be upset about?" that their comments realy are not helpful
5) plan a night a week where you go out and do something
6) change your daily routine, sometimes when you get into a routine thats kind of boring, it makes you feel like you're going crazy
Not sure if any of this will help you, but it helps me, i don't do medication, and i'm not in therapy, i've tried all of that, but didn't get much out of it.
Dreams by the way mean things, for instance, if you dream your death, it means a new begining is coming your way..........you can write down what your dreams are, and do some research on them, there are all kinds of books, if you believe that sort of thing, i do, found it helped.
Our childhoods i'm sure play a big part on our depresseion, whether you've supressed something, you can look into being hypnotized, not sure if you really want to remember everything though!
Make some goals for yourself, short term and long term, even if its just that you want to change your bedroom around, put a check beside it once its done, and soon you'll see that you are accomplishing things, and you're life isn't that boring.
As for being single for so long,and not being sure if that has something to do wtih it, i've basically been single for 7 years, have 2 kids, and have gone out on dates maybe a handful of times. Its not the end of the world to be single, just be happy with yourself, and the rest will fall into place!
Good luck! | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 5/1/2006 8:05:00 AM | your def not alone there!¬ suffered for years & medication didnt help, doctor has diagnosed sad syndrome so will be getting a light box soon & see whether that will work | |
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| Depression without Reason
Posted: 5/1/2006 9:07:09 AM | I do, people think I smile all the time, but not really.So I understand what your talking about. But I have not been diagonized depressed. | |
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