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 rose44

Joined: 5/15/2005
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Administrative password ?
Posted: 4/30/2006 9:46:34 AM
My father passed away several months ago and I recieved his old computer. It has windows 95 on it. I can't seem to do anything with it because of this administrative password that it has set in it. I did a quick restore which is suppose to basically restore it to how it came from the factory. The password is still there. I have a disc with a 98 upgrade on it but the system won't accept it. I have searched the web and the only advice I can get is......Don't forget this password....Can anyone offer any suggestions ? Microsoft won't even acknowledge that Win 95 ever existed. Thanks
 ManOwaR

Joined: 8/9/2005
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Posted: 4/30/2006 10:32:56 AM
okay well.. truth be told - if this was a computer shop - I wouldnt touch it because I couldnt validate it being your system.

But, since its not =)............

Google Windows98 Admin Password Recovery

theres software you boot off of that will show it and let you change itright from a dos prompt.
 rose44

Joined: 5/15/2005
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Posted: 4/30/2006 11:06:21 AM
Can I download this boot to a A drive disc? I had the 95 system online for about 10 minutes yesterday and it really struggled. I use juno as my isp and the system rejects the C disc for loading juno just like the 98 disc because of that stupid password. Thanks for the advice....I will see what I can do with this pc, it might just end up being a offline game player. It's a drag because it has more memory then the system that actually works. I have it set up as a learning project...lol Thanks again.
 ManOwaR

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Posted: 4/30/2006 3:25:01 PM
yeah you're going to need to put it on a disc because its actually a boot disc.
and then its all on-screen instructions from there
 k3rnal

Joined: 3/21/2006
Msg: 5
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Posted: 4/30/2006 4:08:36 PM
You could also slave the hard drive in another pc, export the SAM, and then use a cracking program. There are also websites that will crack the SAM for a small fee, or even free.
 ManOwaR

Joined: 8/9/2005
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Posted: 4/30/2006 8:41:51 PM
and now we'll return to the simple version of it............

=)
 k3rnal

Joined: 3/21/2006
Msg: 7
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Posted: 5/2/2006 4:07:36 PM
That linux p/w cracker you are speaking of does not always work...I have used it many times for customers. The "hard way" you speak of is the correct, and proper way of doing it. Sorry.
 nah112

Joined: 5/27/2005
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Posted: 5/2/2006 6:28:17 PM
Windows 95 and 98 passwords are kept in the PWL file ......
here is a small free one you can download that might work on 95 for you,

http://lastbit.com/vitas/pwlview.asp
 epsilonbj

Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 9
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Posted: 5/2/2006 8:34:46 PM
win95 and 98 password don't mean a thing. when prompted, just hit cancel and it will take you to windows. do a search on *.pwl and delete it.
now if you are talking about a bios password ( the one you enter before windows starts ) that's another story.
 whisk_

Joined: 4/6/2005
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Posted: 5/3/2006 4:24:58 PM
haha... i don't want to sound like a troll, but if she knew how to mount the HD in another machine and crack a SAM i don't think she'd be posting here she's using Win95 anyway.

to the original poster: what is the password you're referring to? do you get it almost immediately after turning on the machine (i.e. before the Windows loading screen comes up)? let us know.
 whisk_

Joined: 4/6/2005
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Posted: 5/3/2006 4:26:17 PM
whoa, nevermind. i need to learn to read the whole thread...
 civilizedbarbarian

Joined: 2/1/2005
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Posted: 5/4/2006 3:39:49 AM
A fun one lol. You could always backup what you need to keep...then format the hd and start over...assuming you have the full version of w95/98.
 theboyblack

Joined: 4/8/2006
Msg: 13
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Posted: 5/5/2006 11:57:46 AM

to the original poster: what is the password you're referring to? do you get it almost immediately after turning on the machine (i.e. before the Windows loading screen comes up)? let us know.

yea, i dont think its the bios admin password since the poster has been able try a system restore cd ... but let us know for sure.

as others have said, slave the hdd and copy off the important stuff. then reformat. you can find win95 install files everywhere if you like it that much.
 rose44

Joined: 5/15/2005
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Posted: 5/5/2006 8:04:45 PM
I can log on to this computer no problem. I have seen the enter password bs and I just hit cancel.....that is not the problem. I cannot load any kind of software. I get a error message of........."you do not have the administrative power to alter this operating system"....something along the lines of that......."please log in with administrative password to continue"....paraphrasing the message but that is basically what I am fighting. Its my Dad's old computer....not doing anything evil here.....lol....just trying to upgrade it a little bit....geez.......I guess I need to get my hands on a full blown Windows cd and blow the whole system out....who knew win95 was so important and secret.....good grief.....
 epsilonbj

Joined: 5/29/2005
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Posted: 5/5/2006 8:33:31 PM
windows95 does not really require admin passwd to install anything. win2000 and xp do. so it's getting a bit more confusing if you say you are using win95 yet it is asking you for an admin passwd.

please post the exact error message you get. and please confirm what windows you're using.
search for *.pwl and delete like I suggested in my previous post and let us know what happens.
 rose44

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Posted: 5/5/2006 9:05:36 PM
The windows 95 on this particular machine does need a administrative password to install software....if it didn't, I would not be asking for help......I do not get a error message.....just a message that I do not have administrative permission to continue with a install, and to log in with administrative password. I will do a search again tomorrow......Thanks for trying to help....It's late...
 Technopunk

Joined: 1/6/2006
Msg: 17
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Posted: 5/5/2006 11:38:45 PM
can't you just enter the bios, boot section, choose boot from cd, and then reboot with the windows disk in and reformat/ reinstall?
 dude1112

Joined: 5/4/2006
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Posted: 5/7/2006 2:39:18 AM
http://www.openwall.com/john/
http://www.oo-software.com/en/products/oobluecon/
http://quality-shareware.com/programs/active-boot-disk.asp

If these do not help you then..

Windows 95 does not support NTFS file encryption. Thus being said, just throw an old HDD in the machine, copy all the files you need to keep, and then reinstall the OS(windows 95).



Also, for people that understand what I am saying, some good general information to know...if you write your own program to decrypt .pwl files the encryption key is the username of the persons password you are trying to crack. This is not the case in Win98SE. Just shows how effective their encryption was...
 NateC

Joined: 4/10/2006
Msg: 19
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Posted: 11/26/2007 4:19:55 PM
Getting around a password in 95, 98 and ME is a breeze. Just hit ESC.

There is an exception...if it's supposed to connect to NT3.1 or 4, you're screwed. That's not actually a Windows 95 password, then; If it's asking for an admin password, and exc. doesn't work, it means the OS needs to be on a network - the network it was originally connected to - to work.
 N3T_K1LLA

Joined: 11/20/2007
Msg: 20
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Posted: 11/26/2007 5:02:33 PM
Thinking about this issue a little more, I have come up with some ideas.

There are a few ways to restrict programs from installing.

If there was a group policy setup, with polyedit, you'd have to break the password using a PWL cracker. HOWEVER, there are also programs out there that are ment to block installations as well.

Here are a few things I would do aside from the pm i've sent.

First, check the add/remove programs, if you can access it and check to see if there are any other programs listed that might be what we're looking for, cross referencing them via google will help you determine if its the type you're looking for (The type you'd be looking for is 'application installation restriction' or something like that)

Another thing you can do is try to click START then RUN and type in regedit.exe

If you're able to access this, try to go here:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\]

If possible, make a list of whats there, including folders and everything in them and post it back on here. If there was a group policy in place, everything should be listed as to what was done in that registry location and its as easy as deleting the key. But first I'd like to know whats there before we head to that route.

If you aren't able to access it, that means a group policy has been put into place (or a virus did it) and that requires polyedit to undo since it is the only program that can manipulate the registry after a 'restrict registry' key has been placed into the system.

Please let me know if you are able to access regedit.exe or not.

Its a little hard to troubleshoot when the computer isn't in front of you, but I'll try my best :)
 NateC

Joined: 4/10/2006
Msg: 21
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Posted: 11/26/2007 6:24:14 PM
Hmm, I didn't know '95 and '98 had policy editors.

Okay, OP, you need that password, otherwise you may not be able to edit the security policy.

However: If you can get into it, there's templates you can load.

http://www.zisman.ca/poledit/

Check that resource out. He mentions a template called Standard.POL, I think, that's the one you'll want to load - if you can. It'll reset the security settings to damned near close to factory settings - short of having the policy editor onboard.
 N3T_K1LLA

Joined: 11/20/2007
Msg: 22
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Posted: 11/26/2007 6:54:56 PM

Hmm, I didn't know '95 and '98 had policy editors.

Okay, OP, you need that password, otherwise you may not be able to edit the security policy.

However: If you can get into it, there's templates you can load.

http://www.zisman.ca/poledit/

Check that resource out. He mentions a template called Standard.POL, I think, that's the one you'll want to load - if you can. It'll reset the security settings to damned near close to factory settings - short of having the policy editor onboard.[/qoute]

Yep, they did, it only came on the actual installation cd and was never installed by default in windows 95a,b,c/98,98se installations and it was buried deep in the directory structure.

Just like this little tid-bit... A Windows 95 Version C installation, if you created a bootdisk for it within the system, it actually says Windows 98 when you load it. xD
 HairyKnutz

Joined: 4/8/2007
Msg: 23
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Posted: 11/26/2007 9:26:31 PM
Just get a 98 boot disk and reinstall windows , go here http://www.bootdisk.com/
you ll need a floppy.Or get the hard drive utility and format the drive...
 hobbespm

Joined: 11/6/2004
Msg: 24
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Posted: 11/28/2007 10:25:43 AM
I wonder if it's just a user account with no admin privleges?

Go into user manager and see if there are multiple accounts. Maybe log off and try getting into the administrator account?
 KathrW

Joined: 8/5/2007
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Posted: 11/28/2007 11:49:51 PM
I am running windows 95 and would like to know about setting up passwords. I don't have a manual and would like to know how it works. I do not want to set it up and not be able to get back in myself. That would be a terriable thing.
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