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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/8/2006 12:47:39 AM | | Church of scientology was founded by l. Ron Hubbard. he also wrote a book that sold prb. millions back in the 80's called dianetics. Its a feel good about life religion and has nothing to do with eternal desination. Its a life problem solving technique to stratigic find answers by reasoning with our own knowledge. Dianetics is a brain responsive technique training to retrain the way we think. Its goes in detail we have a conscience and a sub-conscience mind and it works like a computer. If we sub-consciencly input negative stuff in our minds we have it stored in our conscience mind. It says all we have to do is think good about stuff and eventually we just have it stored into our brains somehow. Its a pretty much man governing their ownselfs without a higher power. | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/8/2006 3:05:07 PM | Cult - Scam - Cult - Scam - Cult - Scam
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L. Ron Hubbard was nothing more than a science fiction writer
that Repackaged many ideas and thoughts into one highly profitable
Product. Nothing is the intellectual property of L. Ron....
Since he has been dead so many years the new leaders of the Church
have taken things far and beyond the premise of the original.
As a group the thrive on DATA, TECH basically in our words simple
information and knowledge
Total rejection of former ideas that helped develop him.
Was EST really that much of a threat or competition to LRH?
The underbelly of the organization ORG. is sinister total EVIL--
and to think that because you've climbed to a course level
after crossing the bridge that entitles you to claim the name
OT --- "operating thetan" how ridiculous
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/8/2006 6:01:37 PM | ^^^
ROFL. Now THAT'S funny. Hubbard was just a man... true enough. But so was every other so-called "prophet" or "wise man" to ever walk the earth.
Don't blame him for coming up with a plan to better himself, or others. Name for me ANY other "religion" that doesn't suck money out of people's pockets. Does it change the fact that people feel better for following said religion?
Not to mention the fact, that of all the other religions in existence, as least his doesn't promote wiping the earth of those who don't follow.
Don't get me wrong, I think there are some pretty goofy people out there, willing to follow ANYTHING over their own minds. And maybe this "scheme" of Hubbard's is nuts. But the question comes to mind, "Who is the more foolish? The Fool, or the one who follows?"
P.S. I don't care for Scientology... but that doesn't make them ALL idiots, or Hubbard the Devil. Therefore, I fail to see the justification in bad-mouthing him or the people that hold his words dear for a belief which promotes self-affermation as opposed to prejudice slaughter. | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/8/2006 6:32:17 PM | I'm not sure what its original form/intent might have been but the way it is now it seems like a cult that has similar characteristics to 'pyramid schemes' such as 'Amway'... it keeps the followers trying to rise to higher levels... higher knowledge... and encourages them to recruit new ones.
There is a hierarchy of tests and such that you need to take to get to the higher levels... dealing with silly things like the 'E Meter'... as you rid yourself of the disfunctional energy holding you back from self-actualization.
Apparently these tests add up to a LOT of money... it's very expensive to reach the higher levels.
Once you get there you get to hear the big secrets of Scientology... centering on a story about Xenu the evil space alien.
By that time you've spent tens of thousands of dollars and would probably rather believe the malarky about Xenu than realize what a sucker you've been... | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/8/2006 6:56:31 PM | ALL HAIL LORD XENU!! :-D
j/k
If you guys haven't seen it yet, I'd recommend checking out the South Park episode on Scientology. Google around, you'll find it. | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/8/2006 7:52:25 PM | Actually Scientology came about as a bet between L. Ron Hubbard, and a fellow friend (who also happened to be a novelist) of his while they were on a boat (or so the legend goes)...The bet was whether it was possible to build a religion during one's lifetime, and obviously L. Ron won...
Ironically a group of disaffected Scientologists under the guidance of Robert Moore and Mary Anne Mclean formed an even more bizarre faction know as The Process Church of Final Judgment. You can likely find some of Robert's (under the alias Robert DeGrimston) writings on the internet, and you'll see what I mean by bizarre. It's also been theorized that The Process Church inspired Charles Manson, and his "family"... | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/10/2006 12:57:14 PM | weird -- ask any Scientlogist what RPF is? difference between a E & Q meter.
or what LRH HOST might be ? what is OT 4,5,6,7 or 8? why is there no OT 9?
OR Why did Lisa McFearson die? and Scientology is NOT a RELIGION !!!
these people are strange !! ya need a dictionary just to speak to them in English ! | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/10/2006 3:49:53 PM | | Yeah, The Process were those guys who went around in long robes with attack dogs... they were a scary group... and if you read about the woman... what she did later... it gets even scarier... | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/10/2006 5:50:07 PM | in 2000 years from now the founder will be worshipped like Jesus and Tom Cruise will be the equivalent of Peter...
hey this is more or less how many religions were created, from rumors, lies, games, and crazy prophets... | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/10/2006 11:34:26 PM | Read the book "Bare Faced Messiah"
VERY eye opening.
L. Ron Hubbard not only was a science fiction and pulp fiction author but also professed that the best way to get rich was to start your own church... hmmm... guess he was right... or was he? | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/15/2006 6:29:28 AM | Somehow they found me and send me all kinds of mail to GET CLEAR !!!!!!!!! It's a CULT and you don't have to be RICH !! just have anything green in your wallet at any denomination and they will take you. Also they get you to buying programs and millions of books at inflated prices.  | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/15/2006 8:48:11 PM | I saw Kristy Ally holding what looked like coke cans that were hooked up to a generator. The electrical impulses were supposed to clense her and make her more attractive to the aliens when they come to take us over..lol.
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/16/2006 1:48:59 AM | | mr hubbard is probably doing backflips in his barrow... some of the stuff the new scientologists have come up with, like the silent birth crap, is just dumb and weird. i think people are really getting sick of tom cruise though. | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/17/2006 7:49:33 AM | | L. Ron Hubbard, and his Scientology, make more sense than all of the psychiatrists in the world put together. Is that a compliment?! Hubbard was anti-Fruedian and anti-psychology. If it was up to psychologists we would all be on medications, like prozac or valium. Tom Cruise and Hubbard wanted people to get away from "bogus elixers". How many people have psychiatrists ever cured of mental illness? The answer is none. They should all be sued for malpractice or we should get a refund. Jim Jones and David Koresh were too stupid to have their religions live past them. Scientology makes more sense than Buddhism. | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/17/2006 9:17:04 AM | Scientology makes more sense than Buddhism
Well of course! Any theory that dictates all our problems, pain and suffering is caused by brainwashed alien souls is far more logical then the Buddha's far out and plainly wrong idea that suffering is caused by our own desires! Why didn't I realize it before!!! | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/17/2006 10:13:42 AM | it's too long to post to understand how funny it is.
hubbard wrote a book, it's a sci fi book, think star wars, star trek.
Then for some reason he decided it was real.
Thin star trek, but real
THis guy, I believe his name to be xenu a long time ago tried to kill off humans or something so he found the planet earth and it had a lot of volcanoes. He put the humans inside the volcanoes and blew them up and killed the majority of the humans. But a few were left. The ppl who died had something like "souls" But there is no heaven in this belief, so the souls were stolen by xenu and his ppl and they forced them to watch a brainwashing movie. Then they released those brainwashed souls by the millions on the people left here on earth. Those souls are the reasons why we believe in Jesus and why our movie theaters look like they do (we patterend our movie theaters after their movie theaters, I have no idea how they connected movie theaters to jesus, but this is true) Those souls follow and torture all of us here on earth. The enlightened ones (those who follow scientology) can release themselves from the souls. (now here's where christians should be concerned) Once enlightened ones have released themselves from the group of brainwashed souls, they SHOULD contact these souls telepathically and de-brainwash them of that horrific movie they watched.
NUTS!!!! As a christian I would lead other christians to be aware that people who believe in this religion can be posessed since they open themselves up to possession, and telepathic communication.-
"People, in general, are stupid."-My father
EXCERPT FROM WIKIPEDIA:
Some central beliefs of Scientology:
A person is an immortal spiritual being (termed a thetan) who possesses a mind and a body.
Through the Scientology process of "auditing", one can free oneself of "engrams" and "implants" to reach the state of "Clear", and after that, the state of "Operating Thetan". Each state is said to represent recovering the native spiritual abilities of the individual, and to confer dramatic mental and physical benefits.
The thetan has lived through many past lives and will continue to live beyond the death of the body.
A person is basically good, but becomes "aberrated" by moments of pain and unconsciousness in his or her life.
What is true for you is what you have observed yourself. No beliefs should be forced as "true" on anyone. Thus, the tenets of Scientology are expected to be tested and seen to either be true or not by Scientology practitioners.
Psychiatry and psychology are evil and abusive. [11]
Humans retain many emotional problems caused by early stages of evolution (see Scientology History of Man | |
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| Your thoughts on the Church of Scientology
Posted: 5/17/2006 9:05:52 PM | Well, here's a little thought of mine. The idea of having a "religion" is appealing to most people. When you take a place like Hollywood, where gossip is gospel; careers, fame and wealth are an unpredictable roller coaster; and reality is founded upon the superficial, egomaniacal and materialistic end of the spectrum... I'm sure religion is even more appealing, as people seeks "preordained" answers from supernatural sources.
Big-name celebrities can't exactly go to regular church. Kinda hard to pray and meditate while signing autographs. So, they need a place to go, where they can be with thier clique of household-name friends, while getting their God fix. That makes it like an exclusive club. It would be hard to determine who can join via an "are you famous enough?" rule. So the exclusion/inclusion factor becomes money.
Then comes in the challenge of creating a church that can justify charging huge amounts, so it has to come up with some extra-special things. It would be necessary to always need the latest and greatest high-tech tools, to run expensive tests and experiments, and have "religious" beliefs that only highly-advanced intellectuals could begin to comprehend.
As an added bonus, our beloved celebrities get to promote an image of themselves as these super-advanced geniuses. Downside is they have to display their super-abilities publicly in order to give their church a sense of authenticity. Thus pics of Kirsty and Tom hooked up to their cereboreal trans-plasmifiers and their anti-neutrineal subatomic holy positroners. Only 85 grand a pop, and it gives ya a great buzz. Who's next?
Catch is, for this "church" to retain members, it has to give them something. It has to provide some ruthless feel-goodies; to tell them that it can outdo Mizz Cleo, Dr. Phil and Ron Jeremy combined.
I truly believe that what this world really needs is a place where super-wealthy women can get worshipped, er, seduced, by MasterBart. For fifty grand a week. Each. | |
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