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Can someone explain to me how this works? How does pof know if someone has messaged others regarding "sex or intimate encounters"?
Must not have messaged users looking for intimate encounters or sex.
There are two Intimate Encounter contact restriction settings. Both can be turned on in your Mail Settings
Block users from making first contact that have messaged others for sex or intimate encounters. Set by the system based on your contact patterns AND enabled by the User
Read this Carefully!
Your profile will be flagged to the system only, if you send FIRST CONTACT emails to 4 or more different members who are SEEKING AN INTIMATE ENCOUNTER (or possibly OTHER RELATIONSHIP) in their profile.
If a user checks the box beside the following criteria, at the Top of their Mail Settings, that says:
Block users from making first contact that have messaged others for sex or intimate encounters.
... and you have been system flagged as noted above, you will then be blocked from sending them emails.. Your email will appear to have been sent, but on further examination of your sent box, it hasn't registered (i.e. not displaying in your sent box).
No one knows you are flagged, not even the ones you email will know, only you will know since your emails did not go through.
If you claim that you don't think or don't know of any users that you have contacted first that are seeking an IE, Click HERE, to refresh your memory. Be aware, that members may not register on your contact history if they have left the site or are hidden, so it's not proof positive if they don't exist ( in the link provided) or that you haven't contacted an IE seeker in the past. Members come and go on a daily basis.
Will you get flagged if someone who is seeking an Intimate Encounter, CONTACTS YOU FIRST, and you reply? - NO, nothing happens to your profile.
Can the site reset this flag? - NO
Can you yourself fix this? - NO
Will you be notified that the email has not been sent? - NO
What if it's a mistake? - That's why it's set at 4 or more
Which Relation Seeking Options Does this Apply to? - Users who are seking an Intimate Encounter or Other Relationship
What are my options? - Contact only users who do not have this flag set OR one last obvious option
Must Not Be Seeking an Intimate Encounter Based Upon what you State in your profile AND enabled by the User
If you check this box in your Mail Settings , it simply disallows other users, who in their profile, are seeking an Intimate Encounter, from contacting you - Nothing happens to your account.
If you onthe other hand contact someone that has this filter set and you are seeking IE in your seeking option, you will be notified that the user does not wish to speak to you.
If you feel you've been wrongly flagged, check your contact history, but be aware that users come and go, and of course may not be on your contact history anymore. Write to csr@pof.com.
Thanks for the reply. I did actually read that thread previously.
So then I could just report someone as seeking sex or intimate encounters? What if I lie? Is there some sort of a mitigation process?
I think I someone managed to end up on this list (can't message anyone with the new block on), even though I've never messaged anyone about sex or intimate encounters. What do I do to get off the list?
yeah i agree. i don't know how they've implemented this feature, but however it is, it's not done fairly. i'm also blocked by this rule too. i can't even remember completely truth be told. but if i was ever cheeky enough to message someone for sex or 'intimate encounters' then it was either 1 in a thousand or they were listed as looking for 'intimate encounter'. and perhaps 1 or 2 of all the women i've chatted with have blocked me. perhaps 1 fairly and the other not?? personally, i think it's a fairly dumb feature,, it's supposedly a dating website (of sorts), we're all adults, most people are fairly nice and grown up in their attitudes (girls anyway). a little more freedom required here i think!!! you should, IMHO, only block/remove the profile of those who are consistently offensive or inappropriate to the relevant 'looking for' classes of people.
I have absolutely no sympathy for persons who PM people soliciting sex.
I think plenty of D*cks on the Internet (no reference to fish) on many other sites has created this issue. Women do not want see your organ, they do not want to cyber you off, and they do not want to waste their time with some knob on here for kicks.
I applaud Plenty of Fish for implementing this new feature. I am not looking for a partner on here as I have one but I was sure to tick off the new block ASAP.
JMHO
P.S. There sure is alot of complaining on this site considering its FREE, FREE, FREE.
I gotta agree with this process being kinda shady. I know afew people who have profiles on here who say they are looking for an intimate incounter and just because it says that doesnt mean the people who are contacting them are looking for it.
Let them block whoever they want ! Who cares ? Either they are just very sure of what they want , and want to limit their correspondence . Or maybe they are just uptight , i don't know . But it shouldn't matter what anyone else does . Unless they're burning your books . Let the humans do what they will .
I'm curious about this. What if I have received an insulting mail from someone looking for sex and I responded saying leave me alone or whatever. Would that include me in the block? If so that isn't fair. I didn't contact him looking for sex or even contact him 1st.
So, I guess this new feature was NOT explained properly to all the users on POF. That's a great point that someone brought up.... what if a woman contacted me (one who's got listed "looking for encounter" on her profile), and I responded? Does this mean that many other women will automatically have my messages blocked? without them even knowing that I tried to contact them? I don't understand, why was this not explained? I even tried to contact POF to ask them these quesions, but so far after two messages I have sent them, I've gotten no responses.
I think the usual "block user" feature was good enough. I don't understand how this new feature really works, does anyone?
[Administration is in no way obligated to explain each and every new feature to the satisfaction of every user, caps. You may find that in the Terms of Service agreement, which you signed in order to become a member, the right to change the service at any time is reserved./pandy]
I think they want us men to be confused, so NO explanations are given to us. Perhaps the people I refer to as "they" are in fact women.
This kind of gives the women on this site much of the power now. In the past, if ANY of us men have tried to contact certain women on this site, then that means we are all "blacklisted" today. We will not know if our emails or messages are reaching the women we really want to make a connection with.
I do think we need an explanation.
[women on this site had the power to choose who they interacted with LOOONG before this option was available. If I were still dating, and didn't need to leave my inbox open for moderator duties, I'd be availing myself of this option. If it didn't improve the site experience of women, they wouldn't be using it. It's not my call any more than it is yours, but I support it fully. I can also assure you that this is NOT a massive conspiracy perpetrated by the women of the site. :D Do keep in mind that no one here owes you an explanation for anything./pandy]
Thank you very much for the link, however after reading all the posts there, I am more confused now. POF has not fully explained in detail, nor have the women on this site..... exactly how a member (a guy, or a perv) gets blocked for sending women messages ......the women who have added in their profile (and this is also not explained) that they are looking for an encounter. Apparently the original block feature that the women felt safe using, has been removed also? This is really confusing.
[no one has explained in detail, and no one will. If admin chooses to share this information, it will be posted publically. Admin chose a list of qualifiers that he believes differentiates those who are serious about relationships from those who are looking for intimate encounters. Those qualifiers have not been revealed. It is my personal opinion that revealing them would render them ineffective. /pandy]
Now here's my rant about this feature.... pay attention closely...
I've never sent messages to any woman on this site asking for sex or an intimate encounter. Recently I have typed out many email messages to women, (the women who are looking for long term, dating, friends, etc....but not intimiate encounters) but when I click send, a new window opens up saying "you have been blocked from sending mail to this person".
I don't know what is up with that, I'm assuming this new feature has been nothing short of a total disaster. Some women change their profiles quite frequently... one day it says dating, then the next it says "hang out" ....... then it says "long term" ..... so who knows when they decided to change it to "intimate encounter".
There is no explanation as to how POF knows which women the guys are sending messages to, like I don't get it. We just want a detailed explanation on how this feature works. And if I'm being blocked for no good reason, then I suppose my only answer is to delete my entire profile, and create a new screen name and start over again. But you know what? all the real pervs out there already know this and there's nothing stopping them from deleting their profile, and creating a new one themselves because this site doesn't screen people's IP addy's. And it should if this feature is actually going to work, which it appears it hasn't.
So, the conclusion here is that this new feature really doesn't work that well, if anything it has punished all the real good guys on this site, and has only made a woman's search for a good honest man far more difficult. I wish you luck ladies, but POF has only made things worse for all of you, I am sorry.
[the majority of women who state a preference have regarded this feature postivively, and no women have reported problems arising from it that I am aware of./pandy]
Have you checked the restrictions that are on the bottom on the profile? This can significantly limit who you can send mail to. For example within a certain age group, country, distance, and gender. Other than that I look forward to seeing what the response is to your inquiry.
Have you checked the restrictions that are on the bottom on the profile? This can significantly limit who you can send mail to.
Yes I have and I pass all of those restrictions with flying colours. I do read profiles. But that isn't what I was talking about. I was referring to the fact that many of my outgoing email messages to women (and other men are having the same problem) are coming up "you have been blocked from sending messages to this member". With no explanation as to why, then I heard about this new feature. But I am honest to say that I've never emailed a woman on this site looking for an intimate encounter or sex. And from what I've read from most of the men on that other thread, it seems it's been nothing short of a complete disaster.
And my other question was.... women used to be able to use the original "block" feature on this site. Apparently it has been disabled now. Why? This totally makes no sense. The whole purpose of the "block" feature was to protect women from numerous unwanted emails, especially from men sending messages implying "sex". But now it seems POF have only made things a lot worse. I know it's a free site, but c'mon.
[the block feature has NOT been disabled, you have been given inaccurate information./pandy]
When the guy that writes the site/runs the site/owns the site/is on and decides to tell you how to get around the filter that he put on for a reason....
When the guy that writes the site/runs the site/owns the site/is on and decides to tell you how to get around the filter that he put on for a reason........get it?
I didn't see where anyone, or you for that matter explain how to get around the filter, if I missed it, could you please tell me again ? Other men are asking the same questions, and still waiting for answers !!!!
For the record... I do read women's profiles, and here's an example (below) of their requirements for men to contact them, and as you will see, I pass all their requirements.... and somehow many of my emails to women are blocked... I WANT AN EXPLANATION !! so do other men.
Male (I am male) Age between 27 and 36 (born Dec 1971) Live in Canada (Whitby, ONT) Live within 75 miles. (live in Durham region, only minutes from Toronto) Must not be looking for Hang Out (pass) Must not be looking for Short-Term (again pass) Must not be looking for Talk/E-mail (someone should also explain this) Must not be looking for Photo Exchange (my photos are there for all to see, no need for an exchange)
Must not be looking for Other Relationship (pass) Must not be looking for Intimate Encounter (pass) Must not be looking for Activity Partner (pass) Must not do drugs (pass) Must not be married (pass)
[The service provided is what it is. We do understand that occasionally there will be members who are not pleased with those services...if you become dissatisfied, we'll cheerfully give you an immediate refund of your membership fee and any and all monthly dues paid to date. That's a much better deal than you'll find elsewhere :)/pandy]
Well, one thing's for sure. Women with this block on won't get emails from 500 guys a day anymore. They'll only get them from the few guys who have never messaged a person who has the intimate encounter flag checked on her profile.
I could be wrong, but this is my guess as to how it works. Please, let me know. I, like most men, email women based on their pics and profiles without even noticing what they're looking for. I had an email blocked this afternoon, simply introducing myself. Has this effectively killed my profile? I've never solicited a woman for an intimate encounter. I may have message a woman who had the flag checked though. I don't know.
I have absolutely no sympathy for persons who PM people soliciting sex.
I think plenty of D*cks on the Internet (no pun intended) on many other sites has created this issue. Women do not want see your organ, they do not want to cyber you off, and they do not want to waste their time with some knob on here for kicks.
I applaud Plenty of Fish for implementing this new feature. I am not looking for a partner on here as I have one but I was sure to tick off the new block ASAP.
Explain exactly how this new feature will stop ANY man from continuing to mass email or send PM's to women showing their privates or talk sex ??? AGAIN, this was never explained in detail. Can some of you people read ?
I applaud Plenty Of Fish (thumbs down) for making life more difficult for the real good honest men out here who are just looking to find a compatible woman to date, and are finding all their email messages being blocked for no reason whatsoever. And even worse, for the women, who will now not receive most of these email messages from all these good guys out here, but will instead continue to receive the unwanted solicited sex messages and unwanted photos. WAY TO GO !!!
AND ONE MORE THING... this question was still not answered... why did POF do away with the original block feature that women used to block men who would constantly harass them and solicit them for sex or whatever?? They brought this new block feature in, but did away with the old one, which did seem to work to a certain extent. AGAIN, way to go POF !!
Well, one thing's for sure. Women with this block on won't get emails from 500 guys a day anymore. They'll only get them from the few guys who have never messaged a person who has the intimate encounter flag checked on her profile. I could be wrong, but this is my guess as to how it works. Please, let me know.
Just read all the other posts from this page, and you'll see this simply is not the case. All the pervs out there who will now have their emails blocked, all they simply have to do is create a new account/profile/screen name and come back and start all over again, it's that simple. POF does NOT limit 1 account per IP addy like many other sites do. And I mentioned that the old "block" feature that women used effectively before has been replaced by this new feature. Why not keep the old one anyways? This only hurts women, it's not going to help them.
If we explain to you in great detail how to circumvent the feature, then we would have rendered it ineffective, would we not?
POF does NOT limit 1 account per IP addy like many other sites do
had you bothered to read the terms of service that you agreed to when you created your account, you'd have noted that creating multiple profiles is grounds for deletion of any and all profiles.
This is my 2nd account, from the same computer. The other one got deleted for no reason.
it was deleted for a reason, I'm guessing... but perhaps not a reason that YOU discern. It is apparent from the posts here that none of you have ever bothered to read the rules, posting guidelines or terms of service. I strongly suggest that you do so.
If your upset, take a walk and cool off. Then come back and ask your question nicely.
I apologize for typing in CAPS. Looks bad I know.
I have asked nicely, and quite often (if you read some of the replies I got) I get attitude or a smartassed comeback. I'm only sticking up for the good guys (and gals) on this site. This new feature has hurt all of them (us). And to all the pervs out there, it's another victory for them, so yeah I'm a bit frustrated by that. You should be also.
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