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Posted: 5/22/2006 2:29:16 AM | having watched a bloke who was the catholic churches "da vinci code" advisor slag of the film and its assertions etc. on the Heaven and Earth TV programme yesterday morning i just wonder what people think?
i was brought up religious and i still believe there may be a God, but the BIBLE to me is a collection of stories that you need faith to believe. the DA VINCI CODE has some factual basis but is meant as a work of fiction too.
i do not want a religious debate, or to see anyone upset by this subject, but i guess what i am asking is what makes one so righteous and the other so much slander? surely it is interpretation and faith that truly makes the difference? | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 2:37:59 AM | The Da Vinci code is a book written by one man, sold as a work of fiction, that has, for one reason or another, has got many people up in arms.
Dan Brown has never, as far as I am aware, suggested that people should try and model their lives based on his novel. It is one mans, imaginary work, with enough "facts" included for some people to start believing his work could actually be a workable theory.
The Bible, on the other hand, is written by many people, based on their beliefs. None of the biblical authors are alive for us to interrogate, so we can only take it on faith. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 3:08:05 AM | i agree that it is a great book written by Dan Brown and i too have read all his novels. i also think he got his facts right in terms of what he uses too.
i guess what i dislike is the churches desire to attack a man for writing a book based on religion when surely we have to take a lot of the Bible with a pinch of salt too and yet Dan Brown states his is a work of fiction and the church seems to think the Bible is a fact. i have to say that insults the intelligence of anyone without faith or religion. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 3:13:42 AM | I dont have a clue what this code is all about and are there any atractive women in the film,high speed car chases,good special effects and shoot outs
OT Sorry im not a religious person so i cant comment on the Bibble although i have looked at it a few times. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 3:14:14 AM | I don't think the churches would have taken a blind bit of notice of Dan Brown and his literary skills if it wasn't for the reaction of his readers.
There have been many novels over the years which have used religious beliefs and imagery as the background, which haven't caused such an uproar. Of course I can't think of one to use as an example.
In my opinion it is only for the fact that so many people have picked up on this novel and thought "yes, this could have happened" that has triggered this response from the Church.
And it's all good publicity for the book and now the film. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 3:16:42 AM | | I read the book & to be honest it was ok & I couldn't get excited about it as generally most people have. I took it on face value as a complete work of fiction with no basis in fact whatsoever. As much as it might be fun to suggest that Jesus sewed his wild oats, it's all based on dan Browns imagination. | |
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| DA VINCI CODE or BIBLE fictions or facts.
Posted: 5/22/2006 3:26:06 AM | When the Da Vinci Code first came out Dan Brown made the collosal mistake of not being clear about the books origins, when asked if the story was real he didnt say "no this is a work of fiction" so it was intimated by his silence on the subject that the book was real and so begins this whole myth around the Code. Obviously him not being frank about his book has lead to a lot of people believing that what he's written are facts. The Da Vinci Code was not the first of Dan Brown's books but it has ended up being the first that most people read.
I have to say I absolutely hated The Da Vinci Code, I thought it was poorly written, pedantic, lots of long unnecessary words used to make the reader think that it is a highbrow book when in fact it's actually quite crap. Having read all of Dan Brown's other books I think The Da Vinci Code was the worst of the lot! Demons and Angels was far far better, better plot, smoother writing and Digital Fortress was a pretty fantastic read. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 6:22:47 AM | I wonder where you get an application form to enrol at Hogwarts School for witches and wizards.
After all it exists in three or more books and it's in four films so it must be therefore a truth?
Well the Catholic Church has obviously no faith in its ability to keep its flock believing in its doctrines and the world is full of gullible people who believe everything they read that has been printed by others! Dose this mean they will be starting a new inquisition, witches and heretics beware (all pof members please report to your local catholic church for examination)
All this furore has done wonders for the sales of the book and put a lot of bums on seats at the cinema, I wonder if ……….. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 6:28:04 AM | I used to be into conspiracy theories and read Holy Blood Holy Grail (I think that is what it is called anyway) a few years back
When Da Vinci code came out I went off in a huff because as my pet interest had gone all mainstream.. so.. being the sad git that I am, I havn't read it
BUT..
The story is as plausible, if not more so, than the version given in the new testement, which was edited and set in stone in the council of Nicaea in 300 and something AD | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 6:28:40 AM | The Church also attacked JK Rowling and her Harry Potter series of books.
But they got kids interested in reading again - particularly boys, so to me that is a good thing. And once they get interested in a subject they often want to find out more about it, which may or may not lead to going to church to find out "the facts"
If the church are going to condemn anything that could, in theory, lead to more people in the pews, then they are not doing themselves any favours. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 7:41:59 AM | but the church has always had a major problem with its appeal to youth. i mean i went to a c. of e. school and used to be an altar boy at an high anglican church, yet i dislike religion and found it so boring etc.
the church seems to do nothing to raise its own profile and yet is so quick to attack the likes of J.K. Rowling and Dan Brown for just popping up with fiction.
if Hans Christian Andersen had wrote the Bible would we still be as quick to believe in it?
the bishops who sat in the 4th century to compile the Bible we have today discounted a lot of books and accounts of the life of Jesus, but by then surely it had already been opened to embellishment and personal opinion even at that point? the Vatican has numerous books in its libraries that spin off on different angles and trajectories on this tale and what makes them want to hide this literature? | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 10:28:17 AM | | The problem with the bible is the number of times it has been translated and different people have interpreted it in different ways. If you look at christianity it pinches alot of parts from much older religions to attract more followers from a range of different faiths. I think religion restricts you from seeing the broader picture. | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 2:43:56 PM | "The Da Vinci code" is a wonderful conspiracy theory, that is all, and the church hates anything that steps a little too close to the mark, and shakes their foundations by making the common man think!
"woe betide anyone who dares to question the Bible" humbug humbug!
I would not dare criticise anyone's faith, but faith is the belief in God, not in a story book written centuries ago by men guided by a church that wanted to do away with Paganism.
The Church is up in arms because it can no longer hold the Bible out as the "ultimate truth" which it could do in days gone by. We know more, we are aware that the Bible was written in a time to lead people, to guide its followers and yes! scare them into following the churches laws and beliefs.
By making such a fuss over this book the church is by its own actions making "The Da Vinci Code" more famous and Dan Brown is, I expect, laughing all the way to the bank!
If I upset anyone its not my intention, purely my own thoughts on the matter..... | |
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Posted: 5/22/2006 2:52:21 PM | It seems the op's code has been worked out as he's vanished!
OT I hope we dont get a sequel as ive had enough already with all this hype
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Posted: 5/23/2006 1:52:40 AM | Some of what is mentioned (that I know of) in the Da Vinci Code is common knowledge to us Gnostics.
We've been talking about these things loooooong before the book came out (which I actually haven't read yet!)...It's interesting to see how the public has reacted to it.
I've actually found that the majority were far more accepting than I thought... | |
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Posted: 5/27/2006 12:50:17 AM | i went to see davinci code last night, not as good as the book but was still interesting, certainly made me think about a few things but who's to say what is fact or fiction between the bible or book, don't think we'll ever know.......
but jesus was a guy after all so why is it so unbelievable to think that he never had a sexual relationship????? | |
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Posted: 5/28/2006 4:30:10 AM | | If there was some 2000 year old conspiracy, and there was secret evidence that proved christianity as we know it, is a load of bulls**t. What would it change if this evidence came to light? The vatican would denounce it, 99% of christians would disagree with it and right christianity would continue as before. No change. You can't just stop an institution thats been going for 2000 years. | |
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Posted: 4/4/2008 1:14:41 AM | we can only take it on faith?
let me tell u something, i dont like the fact that everytime i read the bible i end up writing down tons of questions in the margins. so many books which were excluded from the bible fill in these gaps. why would the church not allow them in the bible?
the bible was presided over by a pagan emporer who only changed to christianity because it was the religion on the rise and at that time, rome could not afford a civil war (these are actual facts). the bible was written by over 40 different authors over a 1500 yr time span. most authors are unknown.
for example: The infancy gospel of thomas> ever wondered y jesus goes from 12 to 30 in the bible? this book focuses on those missing 18 yrs.
The Book of Jubilees>one of the stories explains where the hell Cane's wife magically appeared from.
The Book of Enoch> it explains all about the apocolypse, angelss and demons, and yet the church banned it from the bible, yet centuries later, they wrote the malleus malificarum which explains it all in even better detail, especially the demons.
Sorry, but i was not turned by Dan Brown to the dark side. i read up on this years before that book came out. I am an educated person. i was raised roman catholic, but i dont have to believe a man written book in which everyone of these people claimed to have had divine inspiration. | |
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Posted: 4/4/2008 1:34:01 AM |
let me tell u something, i dont like the fact that everytime i read the bible i end up writing down tons of questions in the margins. so many books which were excluded from the bible fill in these gaps. why would the church not allow them in the bible?
the bible was presided over by a pagan emporer who only changed to christianity because it was the religion on the rise and at that time, rome could not afford a civil war (these are actual facts). the bible was written by over 40 different authors over a 1500 yr time span. most authors are unknown.
for example: The infancy gospel of thomas> ever wondered y jesus goes from 12 to 30 in the bible? this book focuses on those missing 18 yrs.
The Book of Jubilees>one of the stories explains where the hell Cane's wife magically appeared from.
The Book of Enoch> it explains all about the apocolypse, angelss and demons, and yet the church banned it from the bible, yet centuries later, they wrote the malleus malificarum which explains it all in even better detail, especially the demons.
All makes for very interesting reading. But at the end of the day, the average person would probably just say its the development of an idea, the additions to the bible were just people jumping on the bandwagon, all in all I would sum up that religion has never done a single good thing to this planet. | |
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Posted: 4/4/2008 1:57:37 AM | | raised as a Catholic , spent all my educational life in catholic school , even went to see the pope when he came over , he never did stop his buggy. I however at this stage of my life , look at the bible as a piece of writing concocted by a male dominated church .Cherry picking the gospels and leaving out the bits that didnt fit in with their version of christianity. | |
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Posted: 4/4/2008 2:42:12 AM | Well, I am not really religious and I do believe that it causes as many problems as it solves. As such I have never really "studied" it.
However, I would say that any organisation which is thousands of years old probably has a few embarrasing secrets and a few conspiricies going on.
I feel it would be naieve to think that the Roman Catholic church ( or any other ) are totally transparent and have nothing to hide. | |
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