| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:29:24 AM | NICE does not = WIMP. Here is where everyone gets off track. All the wimpy guys think women should like them because they are nice. I believe they are nice but "Wimpy" is just the lowest level of attraction for females towards men. So if you are a wimp it won't matter how nice you are.
Confident and nice are what women drool over.
Wimpy is so much a turn off and confidence so much a turn on that women will date a confident ***hole before they will date a wimpy nice guy. I've seen this a 1000 times.
So grow some balls  wimpy dudes and you'll see a difference in the dating seen. | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:32:11 AM | Are you a wimp because I think this is a nice guy thread in disguise for some reason?????
Where is Carrie when she is needed? | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:35:57 AM | | Or can I put you on my dating list for the next few months? | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:36:43 AM | Nuh huh, nice guys are those who are semi passive...and quiet.
Wimpy, is like...hmmm, Napoleon D.? He is one sexxxy beast. ;) | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:38:45 AM | Ah, I should have known you were from NS...hehe! Me too! You're right that nice guys aren't wimps. SOME guys who call themselves "nice guys" are just whiners with no self-esteem. Some guys just have bad luck too...whatever it's life; make it better or just give up trying.  | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:41:00 AM |
Where is Carrie when she is needed?
Uh-huh. 
"Nice" guys are the ones who will do whatever you demand...without question, without reason. And yes, they are ALL a bunch of wussies.
I totally agree with growing some balls, but I'm not sure it's possible. | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:44:19 AM | Nice guys don't even have to be castrated; they're like pre-cooked bratwursts and microwaveable meals. Where is the fun for a woman if she can't slowly castrate a man for 50 years?
Come on! Go ahead and try! | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:54:04 AM |
Uh-huh.
"Nice" guys are the ones who will do whatever you demand...without question, without reason. And yes, they are ALL a bunch of wussies.
I totally agree with growing some balls, but I'm not sure it's possible.
So what are we calling men who aren't jerks, who don't cheat, who are sweet, and honest, and sincere? | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:55:07 AM | | You just have to remember that to much confidence is a turn off as well | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:55:27 AM | Nice doesn't mean they are a wimp! but usually on here if a guy is whinning that he is a nice guy and no one pays attention to him. then yes.. he is most likely a "whimp"
please.. i have dated guy's that were ridiculously nice.. TO ME.. but not really to anyone else.. which was a turn on in itself.. I prefer bikers and the bad boys.. but ONLY those that are supper sweet to me.. and they exist!!
The nice.. wimpy ..guys I run from lol | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:55:49 AM | | Those Peachy, are called "men"...in the true sense of the word. | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 11:57:23 AM |
So what are we calling men who aren't jerks, who don't cheat, who are sweet, and honest, and sincere? "single"
Actually "still attached to thier HS sweetheart" is also an option. | |
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Posted: 5/23/2006 12:02:56 PM | | C Note there is a new tree in south america you can grow balls on now. It was genetically engineered. Its called ummmm oh ball tree. or scrotum pine | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:14:02 PM | I have to agree with the OP.
I'm a nice guy. A gentleman and a romantic.
But I'm no doormat.
I am confident, and sure of myself.
And I let the women see that.
I will do what I can to please who I'm with... but not at the cost of who I am.
I won't let her walk all over me. | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:15:06 PM | So what are we calling men who aren't jerks, who don't cheat, who are sweet, and honest, and sincere?
You can be all these things and still not be "nice". "Nice" is a safe pic, that he offers no challenges, that he doesn't challenge her, that he doesn't challenge himself. Nice implies being submissive. Is is right? Not particularly, but--geez!--a man can't always be nice. The world can be chaotic and dangerous. Here's a stupid but possible scenario: You can't be saying "Oh pardon me. I'm sorry my SO's ass somehow jumped in your hand" after the quintesenntial jerk grabs it and attempts to be a jerk. Now is that a "dangerous" situation? No, not in the physical sense. But you have to at least inspire enough confidence in her for her to know that there is some behavior that is never acceptable or justifiable under any circumstances. And it begins with how you treat her. If she argues about something you disagree with but you don't think it's worth arguing about . . . guess what? You're a nice guy. If you disagree, say it. If you can agree to disagree and your feelings don't change for one another, then that's a good sign. And it shows her that there are some things you won't bend on--important or not. Is that being stubborn? Yes. But she'll know that you respect your own opinion and that no one can change it just because someone has a differing opinion.
I'm probably not saying this well, but I hope you get my point. If you can't stand up to her--even if it seems small and trivial to you (because those things may NOT be trivial to her!!!)--then she may think that you'll fold on other more important things.
Geez. You know there are plenty of levels inbetween being a nice guy and a jerk. This world isn't completely all or nothing. But if you want to be a nice guy--and think about this--go ahead and think that everything is gray and don't stand up to her or anyone else. Just rationalize other peoples' behavior and say, "Oh, I'll let that slide. So and so must have been having a bad day." I don't tolerate rotten behavior from other people, especially if my SO were to act that way. Does that make me a jerk?
Nice men sometimes forget that they can be dangerous men. Do they go looking for trouble? No. But if you have to inspire her that you'll clean it up--and, as a matter of fact--in a much meaner way than a jerk would because there are some things a GOOD man shouldn't put up with.
I've said this so many times that I feel as if I'm wasting my breath: Screw being a nice guy. Be a good man. | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:19:07 PM | | I'm rooting for the whimpy ball less guys who are as*holes | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:19:56 PM |
there is a new tree in south america you can grow balls on now. It was genetically engineered. Its called ummmm oh ball tree. or scrotum pine
Sweet!
Adam brought up "doormats". Nobody, man or woman, wants to date a doormat. Doormats are doomed in any relationship, from the very beginning. They all may as well give up...now. | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:21:47 PM | | As I sit in my study and contemplate this question I suddenly feel a tinge of hunger. Leaning forward slightly in the red leather wingback chair I adjust the sleeve of my silk smoking jacket and press the bell for the maidservant. She materializes several seconds later with the afternoon repast of smoked herring and caviar as I twirl my silver handled cane (always a good cure for recalcitrant servants). Later as dusk settles over the stately oaks and red beech trees I pick up the latest volume of prose and kick off my shoes........."slippers wench" I call out. | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:25:08 PM | Kindess is often mistaken for weakness by women, It is been to my experience, But I suppose it is natural to test one's environment, Isn't it?
I dont lose my back bone, and Never apologize for who I am.
If you keep your feet on the ground, Don't take insults, but Don't give them either,
Let her know that you will walk if pushed , This Isnt Being Macho, or Wimpus Americanus.
This is A Gentleman. | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:25:30 PM | I didn't need the speech, I wasn't going for sarcasm. All I was really looking for was this line:
Screw being a nice guy. Be a good man.
I just wanted to know what to call myself, as "nice guy" might be misleading... | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:30:41 PM | I dont lose my back bone, and Never apologize for who I am.
Hold onto to that thought with all you can--because you're only 20. Because sooner or later, you will meet a woman who will make you say things you won't expect and you'll be thinking, "What the feck did I say? Did I just agree with her on something so stupid just so everything would go well tonight in bed? I'm a man, dammit! I gotta speak my mind!"
Being 20, chances are you haven't met her yet. It's a wild ride, brother. | |
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:42:10 PM | Summer_Teeth wrote:
Geez. You know there are plenty of levels inbetween being a nice guy and a jerk. This world isn't completely all or nothing. But if you want to be a nice guy--and think about this--go ahead and think that everything is gray and don't stand up to her or anyone else. Just rationalize other peoples' behavior and say, "Oh, I'll let that slide. So and so must have been having a bad day." I don't tolerate rotten behavior from other people, especially if my SO were to act that way. Does that make me a jerk?
In my opinion, you are correct when you say there are levels between nice guy and jerk.
I don't see your not tolerating borderline abusive behavior as being a jerk, it is not allowing yourself to be treated badly.
It is one thing to have someone vent (even loudly) about their bad day, and another to have them take it out on you. If you were to allow someone to take out their anger and frustration on you, I would see you as a wimp. There are ways of standing up for yourself and the ways you are treated without being a jerk.
There is a fine line between "nice guy" and "wimp," do you know where that line is? Could you identify it if I were to ask a question?
Hypothetical situation:
You open a door for a woman. Car door, door to a building, it doesn't matter. You open it and hold it for her.
Why?
Because she is a lady, or because you are a gentleman?
Adding to that, you can tell if a woman is truly a lady or not....judging by her reaction.
Does she sneer at you and get ugly about you holding the door, or does she smile and say thank you? If she smiles and thanks you, is she doing it because you are being a gentleman or because she is being a lady?
This is a conversation that can go both ways....I know plenty of "nice guys" (most of whom are married), and plenty of "jerks." I also know plenty of "ladies" and plenty of "angry/b****y/snotty women."
Fine line between "nice" and "not nice"??
You bet.
Now, where *do* you stand, and are you standing where you want to stand?
Be the friend you want to have....be the date you want to date, and see what happens.
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| NICE does not = WIMP
Posted: 5/23/2006 12:42:56 PM | | Darn. And all this time I thought wimpy was attractive. This really shouldn't be difficult to figure out. | |
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