| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/28/2006 3:21:37 PM | I've used it in the past to help with energy when working out and to curb hunger.
I know you can buy Vasopro w/ephedra, but is there anything else that is comparable?
I used to use Stacker3 and that was great.. I know ephedra is heavily regulated now which is too bad.
I tried hoodia but noticed nothing really. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/28/2006 3:28:00 PM | | There are a numerous amount of epherdra free fat burners on the market now such as Lipo-6, or Hydroxycut. Both work great, really liked the Lipo-6 product found that i got the best results form it. Dont foregt to eat a sensible diet and exercise to get the results you want. Good luck | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/28/2006 3:34:04 PM | Cinnamon is great craving reducer (well of carbs at least)
Pepper helps with youer metabolism
How about an energy drink to boost up your energy or a freaking apple. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/28/2006 3:42:37 PM | A freaking apple? Whazzat? 
Food and drinks aren't what I'm looking for, but I understand where you're coming from.
I've yet to try hydroxycut, I'll give it a spin. I've tried Lipo-6 and it was great too, but again that had ephedra in it.
I have a very slow metabolism and underactive thyroid, I need all the help I can get. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/28/2006 3:50:07 PM | Imo
If it doesn't have ephedra it will NOT work.
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Come back epehdra let me die skinny. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/28/2006 7:19:46 PM | regulated haha. thats funny
I can walk into any nutrition place here and pick up Pure Ephedrine and caffeine pills, no questions asked on its use.
its just usually behind the counter and you have to ask for it.
[no i dont ship/sell ephedra/ine/or any variation there of or products containing]
=)
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/28/2006 7:21:25 PM | Can't buy it in the USA, FDA put the crackdown on it.
I guess too many people were using it the wrong way. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/28/2006 9:41:30 PM | thats stupid. considering the two "high profile" people that dropped dead from it were both proven to be very dehydrated while on it.. *Shrug*
Jump to .CA and get some =) | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 7:52:59 AM | | I just might have to make a trip to Canada and buy a few cases lol | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 8:54:21 AM | I wonder if I could buy from a .ca website? I'm not sure.
I only live 3 hours from Vancouver so maybe a road trip is in order. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 1:11:19 PM | | Just a note here. I was doind some reseach on fat burning pills etc and came across a advertisment for a tea that was suppossed to work wonders. It had a strange spelling that I can't remember. I did further research and found that it is the same tea as Oolong tea that can be bought just about everywhere (just a different marketing ploy). Anyways it is suppossed to be as effective as Ephedra if you drink a cup or two after or with each meal. Still has some of the risks though so be carefull with it. I personally drink a lot of green tea and have found it to make a huge difference. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 2:28:18 PM | | Green Tea? Got some in the shelves...but got no idea what to do with the stuff...just brew and drink right? Can I add vodka and lime? just kidding bout the last bit. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 5:28:55 PM | | unfortunately green tea is so mild it will do nothing from a weight loss standpoint (healthy in other respects)...ephedra is the best fat burner, but won't replace good diet and cardio. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 5:48:32 PM | | the tea you are talking about is in chinese stores. it gives you diarrehea. so i guess you loose water. i think it is called 'diet tea'. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 5:49:56 PM | I'm familiar with the tea that makes you "go". I have some Lace ce Beau that I drink sometimes and it works like a charm.
I know that ephedra won't replace exercise and eating right... but it gives me good energy for working out. That's why I like it. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 7:18:39 PM | | I personally use Ephedrine w/ Caffeine for energy for work, as its extreme manual labour, and after an hour or two, im dead, mixing that and I'm usually good for the day =) | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 9:32:23 PM | | Watch your blood pressure with that crap. Mine went through the roof! | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 9:42:11 PM | Im yet to have a problem with blood pressure, on or off of it... but everyone is different..
The #1 problem I have while taking it, is dehydration, I can drink 10 Litres of water and still need more =P | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 9:53:54 PM | | I have low blood pressure to begin with, never had problems with it taking ephedra. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/29/2006 10:03:23 PM | | They would not ban it for no good reason. Damage to you heart has to start somewhere! I do not know about you but hardening of my arteries does not sound like fun. My blood pressure was normal before I took it. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/30/2006 8:27:20 AM | hot rox is probably the hottest fat burner on the market right now. go to gnc and ask what they have in "thermogenics". take the supplement with a red bull before a work out and you'll be there. i promise!(just be careful) | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/30/2006 12:37:09 PM | I never had any problems with my pressure. I checked it once at the pharmacy while on it.
Some people are more sensitive than others. | |
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 5/30/2006 3:43:26 PM | Nothing replaces ephedra so far...but products can help!!!
GREEN TEA EXTRACT
Green tea is high in both caffeine and something called epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG). Both may work synergistically to increase metabolism, reduce food intake, and decrease body weight. One study showed that taking a green tea extract supplement could significantly increase resting metabolic rate when compared to those taking a placebo.
While the research in this area is in its infancy, green tea extract shows promise. Regardless of thermogenesis, green tea has been shown beneficial for various other health parameters as well, so drink up!
CITRUS AURANTIUM (AKA bitter orange or synephrine)
Synephrine is a "chemical cousin" to ephedra and ephedra alkaloids. Synephrine is purported to increase metabolism sans the jitters and side effects of ephedrine. The studies that have been conducted used products where synephrine is just one of several ingredients, making it impossible to extrapolate the findings to synephrine alone.
Other studies have shown some positive effects on metabolism in animals, so if you are an overweight golden retriever, in search of the neighborhood lassie, synephrine may be for you. A recent review stated synephrine may be the best current substitute for ephedrine, but did call for more research.
Know that synephrine is also under the radar in terms of a potential ban; use caution if you have high blood pressure or any preexisting heart condition.
CONJUGATED LINOLEIC ACID (CLA)
CLA is an umbrella term for various forms of this fatty acid. It is found in meats and dairy products. Studies show human ingest approximately 150-200mg/day; the typical dose in most dietary supplements is around 3-4 grams/day.
Unfortunately the evidence from short term human studies suggests CLA does not reduce bodyweight or body fat. While some speculate that different chemical structures of CLA may be more beneficial than those previously tested, only time will tell if the efficacy of this supplement pans out.
CALCIUM (WHAT?? YES CALCIUM HAHA)
We've known for years that calcium is good for the 'ol bones, but research over the last few years has demonstrated it may be good for something else too-weight loss. Several studies have shown an inverse association between calcium intake and body weight or body fat. It seems to be particularly important during weight loss.
While there have been some studies actually supplementing with calcium to enhance weight loss, dairy sources of calcium exert greater benefits than supplemental or fortified sources of this mineral. Knowing calcium is good for the body anyhow, it's important to consume sufficient amounts of dairy products; particularly during caloric reduction.
COLEUS FOSHKOHLII
Coleus foshkohlii is a relatively new weight loss ingredient on the scene and is an Indian plant. This plant has several aliases and its herbal extract, forskohlin, is also often included in many products, such as Therma Pro Ephedra Free, by Prolab. Forskohlin stimulates the enzyme adenylate cyclase, which could potentially stimulate lipolysis (fat burning).
Without delving too far into the biochemistry, understand that the mechanism for this ingredient is there and it has potential; however, there is currently no peer-reviewed research on this ingredient to date. There is one current study underway, however, until it and others are out, the only thing to rely on is the manufacturer's word that this ingredient will turn you into a metabolic machine.
Worse yet is that there is the potential for this herb to interfere with cardiovascular disease as it may cause vasodilation and significantly lower blood pressure. Therefore, while it's utility as a fat loss agent shows promise (at least in a biochemistry book), until more research is conducted its use is not scientifically supported.
Dietary supplements may aid with weight loss; however, it's important to get to the root of the situation, rather than only cutting down the weeds. A sound program of moderate caloric reduction and increased exercise are most important when trying to lose weight and body fat. Dietary supplements should not be the foundation of a program, but rather an adjunct to a nutritionally sound one if necessary.
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| What replaces ephedra?
Posted: 6/3/2006 7:22:01 PM | | I'll be trying Hot Rox next week so I'll try and remember to give a weekly update on it =) | |
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| Hot Rox...
Posted: 6/3/2006 8:24:43 PM | Hey ManOwar...I've never tried Hot Rox but...
I've read a lot of bad hype about Biotest products including Hot Rox on the forums at Bodybuilding.com.
It's a high hyped adversting company...like Muscletech. The comments were that it's way to expensive for what it is, etc...Check out the forums for products reviews from people all over the world.
Personally I've tried Lipo-6 by Nutrex, Tight by SAN, White Cross by D&E Pharmaceutical, Hydroxycut by Muscletech.
Lipo-6 and Tight were pretty good. Thermogenesis was the best...but had ephedra, kola nut and white willow, a herbal stack similar to ECA stack.
I've read that ThermoDynamX raise your resting metabolic rate about 80 calories more after one hour after taking it.
If you try Hot Rox like you say....i'll be watching for your updates!!!
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