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Posted: 5/30/2006 12:15:14 PM | | Does it work? Is it healthy? | |
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Posted: 5/30/2006 12:21:01 PM | i losr weight by eating no carbs after 5pm.
EDIT. oops LOST. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2006 12:50:41 PM | | I dont think it is good for you but just cutting them out after 5 helps because carbs turn to sugar when inactive so unless you plan on doing some kind of activity to burn them off after dinner just have them for lunch. I can't do this because I don't get full not eating carbs I love my potatoes ....... mashed, baked, scallop mmmmmmm | |
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Posted: 5/30/2006 4:17:25 PM | Also remember that all carbs are not created equal.
Eating broccoli and eating cookies both give you carbohydrates, but the broccoli is a complex carbohydrate and the cookie is a simple carbohydrate. Simple carbohydrates are typically high in sugar, low in nutrients, and are easily stored as fat. Complex carbohydrates take longer to digest and are usually packed with fibre, vitamins and minerals. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2006 4:19:27 PM | See post above.
I eat an extremely low carb diet 6 days a week...and cycle in complex carbs on day 7. I doubt anyone would classify me as "unhealthy". | |
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Posted: 5/30/2006 4:28:02 PM | I believe in a well-balanced diet...limit the processed carbs. Meat is GOOOD! (veggies are a necessary evil) | |
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Posted: 5/30/2006 4:30:42 PM | | I lost 60 lbs by being on a low carb diet and walking. However do not cut out all carbs, as posted above there are good and bad, and your body needs carbs to function. I tried the Atkins diet to begin with and would have hunger pangs, I decided it wasn't for me, so with the advice of my doctor (not to get on the fad diet bandwagon), I made up what worked for me. Because I'm a carb lover, I cut low for 6 days a week and gave myself a day to cheat, I looked forward to eating what I wanted on Fridays, after approximatley 4 weeks of doing this, my body begain craving them less and less. Changing eating habits and even a bit of exercise will help you lose, it may take a little longer, but I am proof you can also keep it off on that regime. It's all about balance! There is alot of good data online if you want to research it. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2006 5:07:12 PM | | Low carb diets work - I lost 10lbs in 3 weeks on one . . . But whether they're healthy or not is a whole nuther story | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 2:33:46 AM | | I myself eat basically no carbs during the week except for veggies, bu ti do eat alot of healthy fats when im not eating carbs, then on weekends i do eat lots of fruits and whoel grains. Is all about what fingding works best for you. Remember when man fist elaked the earth do you think there were breads and whole grains around, no they ate lots of protein and snacked on berries all day. Carbs were manactured by man, not to long ago. People say when theres no carbs in the diet you cant have any bowl movements or you get light headed, sure this might be the case for some poeple but for me it isnt. You have to find the set poiint of carbs that your body responds to best, it could by 50g per day or it could be 400g per day, just experiment. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 6:45:15 AM | | Don't you gain all the weight back when you stop the diet? I did the low carb thing a few times and had absolutely no energy. I was taking vitamins and eating enough calories but felt weak all the time. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 7:17:03 AM | theres absolutely no reason to cut out carbs from your diet and very very low carbs diet are gonna be impossible to stay on due to feeling dizzy and having low energy not to mention its not healthy. You're body needs glucose which carbs supply and your brain runs almost soley on glucose so thats why you feel foggy or out of it when you don't eat carbs or if you eat alot of refined carbs because they're digested fast. A good rule to follow is keep carbs moderate (eat some with each meal but not too many at once which will overload the system and any excess gets stored as fat). Try to eat your more dense carbs like wheat breads, oatmeals, other whole grains early in the day and then around dinner time switch over to more fibrous carbs like broccoli, asparagus, carrots, salads and vegetables that fill you up and like said in another post have fiber and vitamins/minerals in them. If you do some form of exercise each day to keep your metabolism firing and lead a very active lifestyle there is no reason why you have to cut out carbs totally or even to the point of starving and feeling weak. You'll lose weight right away when you drop carbs from the diet because water gets excreted along with the lose of stored carbs in your body. Cycling carbs is good and works for most people (myself included) so try to limit them for a few days and then every 4th day have a higher carb day to refuel your body. The biggest problem is people eating the wrong kind of carbs. Anything refinded white flour is not good. White bread, white pasta, white rice, cookies, pastries...just read the label and if it says refined white flour dont eat it. Its basically processed in your body like pure sugar is and thats why you get the lows when you eat alot of these kinds of carbs. They are also stripped off all the nutrients and vitamins that was once in the grain so they actually leach minerals and vitamins from your body to process themselves. Not somethign you want. If you stick with whole grains like oatmeal that has the grain intact it can "digest itself" because it has all the minerals/vitamins/enzymes inside the grain needed for your body to process them which doesnt take away from your bodys stores. The easiest way to think about it is the less processed the food the healthy it will be. Back 100 years ago we ate unprocessed grains and vegetables and had a lower incidence of cancers, heart disease and all those other diseases that are produced from eating all this crap food thats processed and devoid of nutrients. go figure... | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 7:24:58 AM | very very low carbs diet are gonna be impossible to stay on due to feeling dizzy and having low energy not to mention its not healthy.
Oh really? That is why on less than 50g of carbs a day, for the past couple of years, I do weights for 90 mins, yoga for 60 mins and cardio for 45 6 days a week, as well as work fulltime?
I have the engergy level of the average border collie, regardless of how many carbs I eat.
You might want to go read some sports nutrition and biochemistry before you make pronouncements in "public". | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 8:05:15 AM | My younger sister was on an extremely low carb diet (she seriously ate like 10 grams a day) and she did lose weight. She was also indeed completely wiped out of most of her energy and her cholesterol was through the roof. Of course she gained all of her weight back plus some.
I think the only carbohydrates you should limit is the processed stuff like white bread. I've lost 40+ pounds in a few months and I eat wheat bread, potatoes, rice, vegetables and things like that all the time. Eating your carbs early does seem to make a difference, though. It's all about balance. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 8:49:05 AM | well "who the fox" everyone is different so yes not every diet works for every body so if you can do it more power to ya. Personally i can't and most of the people I know who are into fitness and health find it very hard to have the energy for the things they want to do during the day eating less then 50 grams of carbs. Thats an exception not the norm. And you don't have to take offense to what I say and I read plenty don't you worry about it. You have to find out what works for you and then follow that plan. You obviously have found that but since there are a million different things that can affect a persons need for certain nutrients I'm just making a point that for the general public most people will feel better with eating moderate carbs throughout the day then cutting out there carbs to almost nothing like for example in atkins. Thats why for "most" people low carbs/atkins type diet are hell because of the low energy and feelings of hunger which causes people to stop the diet and gain all the weight back they lost and then some.. Just my opinion of course. Maybe I'll read up on some of your posts here so I can educate myself better on this topic of health and fitness because its obvious I have no idea what I'm talking about... | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 8:56:17 AM |
You might want to go read some sports nutrition and biochemistry before you make pronouncements in "public".
ya JP go read a book or two, I think you should also pick up a weight every once in a while...lol
eating approximately 50 grams of good carbs a day will be different for someone who weighs 130 pounds as apposed to someone who weighs 200 or more and for those that may sit behind a desk all day pushing paper as opposed to someone who works in a warehouse doing heavier manual labour.
no matter who you are your brain needs a certain amount of sugars to function PROPERLY, without it people can feel lethargic or some just irratable and unco-operative, your body will break down proteins and fats to get the sugars it needs but this only happens after a need has been established otherwise it would never happen.
i've read a book or 2 | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 10:21:11 AM | | Thanks everyone for the info. Thanks 'JP' for the explanations. Food is complicated! When I go for a week of low carbs I feel tired and foggy (and I have dreams about eating bead), but I manage to stay fairly trim. If I have more carbs, I'll probably have more energy for excercise, so maybe I'll be trimmed and toned. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 11:04:46 AM | i've read a book or 2
But obviously not enough.
I would suggest you do some reading on cyclic ketogenic diets. Ultra low carb isn't just for those of us who weigh 130...works just fine for my bodybuilding friends who are 250 as well. | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 4:03:58 PM | | Jp mkaes alot a valid points but like he said evryones body is different and will react to food diffferently, i myslef have lots of energy and can actually focus better if i eat protein and alot of healthy fats, whenever i eat carbs( the good ones) im alwyas hungry and dont have as much energy. Once you find out how your body responds to different types of foood loosing wiehgt and eating healthier becomes soo much easier | |
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Posted: 5/31/2006 4:33:46 PM | | well said credzy. You gotta find what works for you. I have a friend that can eat BK all day long and while thats not healthy he stays lean while I'm busting my butt everyday doing cardio. Thats why there is no magic workout or diet. There are princples that can be applied to most people but in the end its what works for you after experimentation and only you knows whats best... | |
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Posted: 6/1/2006 6:15:22 AM | Low carb diets work by forcing your body to burn fat and protein instead of glucose. The process for converting protein and fat to energy produces alot more waste in your body than burning glucose.
So you force your body into a state of ketoacidosis, which is not healthy, if you cut out carbs completely.
Whole grains are absorbed slower (ie, broken down into glucose slower) because of all the fibre in them.
The bottom line, is that your total input needs to lower than your total output calorically for your to lose weight. There may be minor differences in metabolism, but large people simply do eat more than smaller people. If you don't believe it, total your calories for the day against someone smaller. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2006 7:05:39 AM | The simple truth is
calories in are greater than calories expended....you will get fat
Because of my activity level, I can eat a LOT of calories/day (3000+) and I do not gain weight. Most of my calories are fat and protein, but then I have the body chemistry to burn them effectively to produce energy. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2006 2:50:14 PM | Carbs are essential for energy, when carbs are low your body will use other macronutrients such as fats and protein for energy. I don't know about you, but I want my dietary fat to be utilized by my liver for forming my hormones, providing energy to my cells and my protein for muscle repair....not energy!!! In other words...if a you're on a low carbs diet, you'll need twice more protein to provide for the lack of glycogen in the muscles and for muscle repair...Plus a lot of visit in the bathroom!!!
The nervous system and brain need glucose to function properly because the brain uses it as an exclusive fuel source. The brain can also use ketones (by-products of incomplete fat breakdown) as an energy source when glucose supply is inadequate, but this is not preferred.
Skeletal muscle and all other cells also use glucose for their energy requirements. When glucose needs are not meet through dietary consumption, glycogen is used. Once glycogen storages are depleted, the body must find a way to get more glucose which is accomplished by gluconeogenesis.
Gluconeogenesis is the formation of new glucose from amino acids, glycerol, lactate, or pyruvate (all non-glucose sources). Muscle protein can be catabolized in order to supply amino acids for gluconeogenesis. By supplying adequate dietary carbohydrates, dietary glucose serves as a "protein sparer," and can save muscle protein from being broken down. Therefore is it important for athletes to eat a sufficient amount of dietary carbohydrates.
While there is no set RDA for carbohydrates, it is recommended that 40-50% of calories consumed be in the form of carbohydrates. The suggested intake of carbohydrates for athletes is 60% of their caloric intake.
For short term, low carbs diet are fine for dieting, but not for the long run in you want to gain hard earned muscle.
Like all things, there is much debate about the amount of carbohydrates one needs. One's carbohydrate intake should be decided after taking many other factors into consideration:
The type of training including the intensity, duration, and frequency, overall caloric intake, performance goals, and body composition goals.
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Posted: 6/1/2006 3:17:47 PM | The most important aspect about using the CKD as a means of bulking is to set your calorie level around 20% (25x bodyweight) over your normal daily calorie level. On a similar note if this causes your calorie level to be too low/high you can always adjust it to fit your individual needs. The best way to consume the copious amounts of calories needed while bulking is to eat a high amount of: steak, chicken, fish, whole eggs, sausage, bacon, and protein and oil shakes. The best way to set this up is to adhere to the "ketogenic ratio," which is some where around 1.5 g of fat for every gram of protein. Your meal planning should consist of anywhere around 5-10 meals a day, that's right I did say 10. This is to constantly keep your muscle cells saturated with the optimal nutrients for growth.
The most substantial difference with using the Ketogenic diet for bulking opposed to cutting is the carbohydrates. During the bulking phase I recommend a 36-hour carb-load, this is to allow a substantial influx of carbs into the muscle but not to over do it. The next major difference is that you are to have 1000 calories worth of carbs, with a good amount of whey protein, approximately two-hours before your Wednesday workout. The main goal of this carb-spike is to allow the person to have a substantial amount of muscle glycogen to maintain workout intensity.
Maybe you need to talk to a BODYBUILDER who actually uses CKD while BULKING instead of just going off halfc0cked.
There are plenty of studies proving a cyclic ketogenic diet is VERY effective in gaining lean muscle while keeping body fat at low levels and there are trophy winning bodybuilders to prove it as well. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2006 4:09:50 PM | haha Get serious now!!! Do you really think that bodybuilders go at the gym with less than 100 grams of carbs for the day and rep the heavy poundage they need to grow new muscle.
Your brain needs 100 grams a day by itself to function properly...and your body doesn't like ketones. This is not healthy for long term.
The only time that you could have a great heavy intense workout is the day after the carb-load.
Yes I agree...Some bodybuilders use this diet before their competition, but not for bulking up. For cutting cycles...with of a lot help from androgenics and anabolics!!!...Such as Winstrol V, Protropin, Masteron, Anavar and Nolvadex...on this stack they would probably maintain or add a very small amount of muscle on this diet. But for a normal****and Harry no way...
Theses bodybuilders you refer too...is bullsh1t.
For bulking up, real bodybuilders consume a unbelievable amounts of calories, carbs and proteins...plus all the cycle of steroids, Growth Hormones, Insulin, IGF-1.
Call Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Yates...ask them if they would bulk up on CKD....they'll laugh in your face!!!
You shouldn't believe everything you read....
By the way....I read this article from Jonathan Deprospo...as you can see...I don't approve of it...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/keto2.htm
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Posted: 6/1/2006 4:12:54 PM | But then I am a bodybuilder and you are not...therefore you know these things.
Right?
Funny how people who don't compete in the sport always feel they are qualified to expound on the diet and supplementation required.
How about you save your opinions until YOU bring home some trophies? | |
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