| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 2/22/2005 1:16:34 PM | I have heard alot of conflicting evidence concerning flouride where it came from, side effects, and uses.
I have heard everything from mind control to having no effect on teeth whatsoever.
Anybody know anything? | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 2/28/2005 6:58:17 AM | The idea for Fluoridation came about when dentist is a small texas town (at least I thinlk it was Texas, it was a long time ago now) notice that the locals had less cavities then the national average. This town's water supply had a natural sourice of fluoride in it and it was discover that this was the reason for their better dental health.
So Dupont, who had an over supply of Aluminum Sulphate (a waste byproduct), which they were pushing as Rat Posion, changed it's name to Sodium Fluoride and sold it as a boon to dental health.
I avoid it like the plague. | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 2/28/2005 7:38:10 AM | I don't know about fluoride... but for the past 2 weeks the water coming from
my kitchen and bathroom faucets smells like a swimming pool. Is that safe,
ingesting that much chlorine? I think that worries me more than the fluoride
in the water. | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 2/28/2005 7:45:31 AM |
Is that safe, ingesting that much chlorine?
No idea how safe it is - but get a pH test and you may be able to rent yourself out as a public bathing facility. | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 2/28/2005 7:46:41 AM | Shan, I would call your sewer district. If you're smelling clorine, there may be an issue at the plant.
for more info, check here.
http://www.epa.gov/safewater/hfacts.html | |
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Posted: 2/28/2005 8:03:00 AM | I'm glad to see more people talking about this. Most of us have it in our local drinking water we have no way of knowing the full range of repercussions or even if we are getting a straight answer. It's just another way corporate America and our elected officials have had their way with us and we do nothing about it. But hey, at least the prices at Wal-Mart are still cheap, huh?
'Go back to sleep America! Your government is in control!'
- Bill Hicks | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 3/1/2005 8:18:33 AM | | Should we now start talking about Food Irradiation before it too is allowed to become so common placed that no one questions it? | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 3/2/2005 1:45:57 AM | they have been flouidating our water since i was born ........
I am normal
2 legs
3 arms
no problem | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 3/3/2005 7:17:09 AM | | Flourine gas is highly poisonous.No proof has ever been shown that flouridation has any effect on teeth enamel whatsoever.The water in the Nazi concentration camps was flouridated.That's something to think about if nothing else. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 7:44:38 AM | The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins, a chemist: "I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930's, Hitler and the German Nazi's envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.
http://www.dormanpub.com/reFrame.asp?page=/articles/display.asp?ID=136 | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:05:31 AM | Now that is Nucking Futs!!!!! I'm glad I drink well water and Locally bottled water! Does anyone think that genetically altering our food can affect us? How about the hormone treatments they give to livestock? Aren't North American kids getting fatter (according to news they are)? I saw in the news yesterday that kids are getting heart conditions at 12!
Mind control, huh? It would explain how some US citizen can't see how wrong some things are... | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 3/3/2005 8:08:54 AM | Yes. I think genetically altering food is really ify and pumping animals with hormones
is very, very bad. Not only are kids getting fatter, but because of all the hormones
girls 8-9 years old are starting puberty and growing full breasts by the age of 10.
Thats not the natural order of things..... its bad news. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 8:20:47 AM | | I agree Shan. In fact, I stay away from milk because of the high levels of estrogen. I don't want man boobs. However, the FDA has refused to label milk as hormone free. Problem is, I like milk. I like milk a lot. But I like my boobies just the way they are too. | |
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Posted: 3/3/2005 9:04:10 AM | We humans have evolved over many thousands of years. While the food we eat has been drastically changed in the last few decades. Any number of substances that our bodies had never had to deal with before. I doubt that our bodies can and we have yet to see the real results of this. It will take maybe thousands of years before the true effects of today's diet are known.   | |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 5:29:27 AM | I dislike things being added to my food or water and I despise conspiracy theories.
Do I think that adding fluoride to water is good? Probably not, as long as people, especially children, have a balanced diet to include fresh fruit and vegetables. If the diet is good then you'll absorb enough natural fluoride.
Do I think that fluoridation is an international mind control conspiracy? Absolutely not. Indeed, it's total bunkum and there isn't a shred of evidence for it.
Indeed, fluoride.org.uk - one of Britian's anti-fluoridation groups, says of the notion that the water in Nazi death camps was subject to fluoridation, "There is no surviving evidence to suggest the Germans did actually do this." and you can bet if there was evidence they'd have found it.
Also, this idea that fluoridation was introduced to Britain by some communist called Kreminoff is unbelievable for 2 reasons. Firstly, the article above which stated that Britain got the idea in the 30's from Russia also states that Russia got it when Poland was occupied after 1939. Those dates don't tally. Secondly, I know of no Russian or Bolshevik called "Kreminoff". The nearest I can find is "Kaminev" and he was shot in 1934.
I do wish people would check out their facts before posting. | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 3/4/2005 5:34:14 AM |
the FDA has refused to label milk as hormone free.
I trust the FDA about as much as I trust George Bush.
That should tell you something....  | |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 6:18:07 AM | | I trust the FDA even less than Bush (which I trust at a level even with most other politicians). At least politicians can be fired. Beauracracies are only beholden to the beauracracy. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 6:37:46 AM | Yeah the FDA lets a lot of dangerous things slide,
then tried to convince us that Canadian Drugs are dangerous?
They have some serious beauracracy issues....
them and the FCC.  | |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 6:46:01 AM | Yeah the FDA lets a lot of dangerous things slide,
then tried to convince us that Canadian Drugs are dangerous?
They have some serious beauracracy issues....
them and the FCC.
Like I always say to my Candian girl friend.Welcome to the USA where it's all about the $$$$$$$$$$. | |
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Posted: 3/4/2005 6:51:17 AM | Canadian drugs are exactly the same as U.S. drugs. Believe me, I worked for a large Pharma group. The problem with re-importation is not a safety issue, persay. It could be if not regulated but it's not the main issue. The main issue is that it takes so much money and time to bring a new drug from discovery to market that large Big Pharma needs to make huge profits on the drug to get return on the risk.
We talk about how high drug prices are in the U.S. but this is for new introduced, still on patent drugs. Our generic drugs are the cheapist in the world. But everyone wants the new, high priced drugs.
France used to have a free market for drug production and was a world leader in producing new drugs. About ten years ago France decided to adopt price controls and company price margins crashed. Now the U.S. is the only country producing new drugs and, sick as it sounds, it's because there can be a huge finacial winfall with a new discovery.
But that doesn't stick with the issue.
The issue is, the FDA has a lot of problems. It's a problem when an agency both approves new products, issues licenses, and then regulates the same industry. OSHA has no stake in my companies finacial well-being. and it functions fairly well for a beaurcracy. The FCC on the other hand, like the FDA, has their hands in both pots. And when that happens, the mission of the agency get's confused. Priorities get lost. | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 4/5/2005 9:10:06 PM | Eat GRAPES ! Grapes are a prime natural source of flouride. They taste good too and are far safer because of Caesar Chavez and company.
re: I have heard alot of conflicting evidence concerning flouride where it came from, side effects, and uses.
I have heard everything from mind control to having no effect on teeth whatsoever.
Anybody know anything? | |
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| flouride? what's the deal
Posted: 4/5/2005 9:51:02 PM | How can you not love fluoride?? I love my big shiney ivory american teeth.
Four out of Five dentists love fluoride!! The fifth dentist is british and started the rumors about fluoride.
Do you want british teeth? I think not!!! | |
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