| The Bible Codes
Posted: 2/24/2005 8:15:52 AM | | What do you think about them? Noting the fact a Jewish mathematician found codes in BOTH the Old Testament AND New Testament? | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 8:40:52 AM | | I watched a thing on the History Channel about that. I think it hogwash. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 9:49:38 AM | | I have heard of them, but haven't really had time to do any research about them. What do the codes reveal? | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 1:15:04 PM | | It is a load of bull. You can use the same "method" to find "hidden codes" in ANY book. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 1:20:16 PM | | Anybody that knows anything about kaballah will tell you those "codes" have been intergral part of Jewish tradition and history. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 1:36:01 PM | I have a machine that can find the secret codes in anything.*
*Reference to 'Memoirs Found in a Bathtub' by Stanislaw Lem. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 1:39:11 PM | maybe this could help you jerry
http://torahsearch.com/page.cfm/161 | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 1:43:21 PM | I do not believe in the codes.
Never did. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 4:38:48 PM | i have read and studied on the bible codes, i dont have a whole lot of knowledge on it but what i have studied is amazing....and the odds of these codes actually foretelling the past events are amazing some example are (the gulf war, oklahoma city bombing,) the list goes on
and the codes gives name,dates,places and even the time that it happened and there is no
other book that can foretell past events that i've ever heard of, if there is i'd like to know
and the thing about the bible codes is that it was discovered by a atheist that is no longer a atheist now. a good book to buy to learn about the codes is "the handwriting of god" by
grant jefferies | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 4:53:49 PM | Anyone can manipulate numbers.
There are only so many numbers in the world--they will repeat.
I get more excited about seeing 11:11 on the clock. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 6:00:53 PM | | there is no manipulating numbers in the codes, you just go to a chapter let's say exodus chapter 5 verse 19 the 22 letter to the right,then after write that letter down then go another 22 letters to the right and write that one down and you just keep on the same pattern and it will reveal the code. in a book that i read a mathematician figured the odds of the codes being correct like they are and the odds were billions to 1, but this don't surprise me because if you read the end of the book of daniel god tells daniel to seal the book up until the time of the end. and i believe we are apporching the end(end of grace) | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 8:30:46 PM | | Your the kind of person that would get sold on Amway real quick. | |
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Posted: 2/24/2005 9:44:00 PM | | ^^^ You're the kind of person who prefers Ad Hominem attacks to actually debating the issue, it seems. | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 4:07:29 PM | | i have spent time and research on what i'm talking about and there is proof also that what i'm saying is true! all you got to do is get the book by grant jefferies called "the handwriting of god" and it explains the codes but you won't do that because then you'll see how much of a fool you are for trying to debate about something that you know nothing about! | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 4:10:58 PM | alienboy you said you could find the codes in any book?
name me 5 books othere than the bible that can give codes....you shouldn't have to think real hard since there are billions of books out there. | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 4:20:19 PM | I don't think anyone would care if something other than the Bible had codes --- except maybe another holy book.
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/torah.html
Using Moby****to predict future. | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 4:55:10 PM | the bible codes no not predict the future! only after a event happens will the codes appear!
GOD will not let anyone predict the future by using the bible codes, a prediction does not always come true anyway
over 90% of prediction that have ever been made were wrong. and GOD does not give predictions in the bible he tells you staight up what is going to happen in the future | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 5:01:55 PM | | HAHAHAHAHAHAH It wouldn't let me say Moby**** | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 5:06:39 PM | "It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, but the glory of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
Recently, researchers in Israel discovered a staggering phenomena of hidden codes beneath the Hebrew text of the Old Testament that reveal an astonishing knowledge of future events and personalities that cannot be explained unless God inspired the writers to record His precise words. The material is possibly the most important evidence I will present in the book that will prove to any unprejudiced observer that the Scriptures are truly inspired by God.
Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl, a brilliant Czechoslovakian Jewish scholar in astronomy, mathematics, and Judaic studies, found an obscure reference in a book by a fourteenth-century rabbi known as Rabbeynu Bachayah that described a pattern on letters encoded within the Torah. This discovery during the years before World War I inspired Rabbi Weissmandl to begin exploring for other examples of codes hidden within the Torah. During the war years he found that he could locate certain meaningful words or phrases, such as hammer and anvil, if he examined the letters at sequences that were equally spaced in the Hebrew text. In other words, if he found the first letter of significant word such as Torah, and then, by skipping forward seven letters he found the second letter of the word Torah, he continued to skip forward the same number of letters to see whether or not the complete word Torah was spelled out in the text at equally spaced intervals. Rabbi Weissmandl described this phenomenon as "equidistant letter sequences" (ELS). The rabbi was astonished to find that an incredible number of significant words were hidden in code within the text of the Torah at equally spaced intervals. These spaced intervals between significant letters varied from every five letters, every seven letters, and numerous other intervals. However, once they found a particular word spelled out at, say every 22nd letter, the balance of the letters from the words in this group were also spaced at an interval of every 22nd letter.
Initially, Rabbi Weissmandl could not be certain if this phenomenon was truly significant or whether it was simply due to the great number of possible combinations of words and phrases that could occur by chance arrangement by skipping forward various intervals of letters in the Hebrew text. The proof that this phenomenon was evidence of a supernatural intelligence and design was confirmed almost forty years later in Israel. The invention of sophisticated computers and statistical analysis was finally able to analyze the text of the Bible to prove that these codes could not have been produced by random chance. Although Rabbi Weissmandl found many coded names by simply manually counting the letters in the text, he did not record his discoveries in writing. Fortunately, some of his students did record several examples of his code discoveries. Over the following decades, students in Israel who had heard about his research began searching the Torah for themselves to ascertain whether or not such codes actually existed. Their discoveries ultimately resulted in he research studies at Hebrew University that have proven the validity of this research. The introduction of sophisticated high-speed computers allowed Jewish scholars at Hebrew University to explore the text of the Torah in ways that previous generations could only dream about.
http://www.direct.ca/trinity/code.html
Haven't checked it all out yet but it looks very interesting. | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 5:17:56 PM | | right on sealacamp, but i don't believe that god would let anyone use the bible codes to predict the future, that would go against his own words. | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 6:10:55 PM | | From the little that I read the codes were recently discovered and the predictions about future events were recorded in the old testament. Those future events have come and gone. So no one knew there was anything in there prior to any event. Any way I only find it interesting and not very important. God does reveal parts of furture events to prophets that He chooses but it is never a complete picture from what I have seen. What is important is surrendering to God and learning to love like He does, at least to me it is important. | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 6:13:34 PM |
right on sealacamp, but i don't believe that god would let anyone use the bible codes to predict the future, that would go against his own words.
Which words exactly? | |
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Posted: 2/25/2005 7:31:23 PM | i know that he gave prophets the ability to tell future events the whole book of revalations
is based on the future itself and in my own opion we are not far away before thoses events have started coming to pass, some of the things in revalations are already fullfilled for instance
the king of the east (china) would have a army numbering 200 million they have that now!
the two witness would be killed and there bodies would lay the streets for 3 day's for the whole world to view them(t.v. and satelite) fullfilled. sorry didn't mean to skip over the codes
but i'd like to show ya'll something thats interesting write down on paper from A to Z and start
off with the #6 at the letter A and add six more to each letter until you get to Z
A-6
B-12
C-18
like that then when your done take the word computer and each # thats by each letter add them up to see what you get. | |
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Posted: 2/26/2005 3:38:06 AM | Texas, if you believe that, say, the Torah is encoded then you have to believe that the text of the Torah is exactly as God intended with no errors of spelling or transcription because if even one letter of one word is different then the whole notion of a code based on letter sequence is invalidated.
Now even if you ignore the well-founded idea that the Torah is a compound document assembled from numerous sources over many years and stick with the unsupported notion that it was dictated by God to Moses you still have to deal with the textual variations that exist in various versions of the Torah.
Laying aside the whole philisophical and theological argument about a God who encodes future events but makes it so difficult and contentious to decode, the biggest leap of faith involved in believing bible codes is the very practical one: we cannot be sure that we have a reliable, consistent and error-free text of even the Torah far less the whole of the OT and the NT.
Now, if you believe that and are looking for a business investment there's a bridge in London which is being pulled down. I have exclusive selling rights to it and can offer it to you at a bargain price; it would make an excellent tourist attraction. Simple forward a 7-figure sum to my banker in Switzerland....... | |
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Posted: 2/26/2005 5:08:19 AM | i believe in the bible to be the word of god from start to finish and error free plain and simple!
it was written by men but inspired by god what to write. now if the bible tells you of future events that you can read in plain text, why is it hard for you to believe that can put past events in coded messages? i don't know if you even believe in god or not.
if you do believe in god then how can you limit as to what he can do?...he has no limits.
as far as your bridge investment i'll go look at your web page on STUPID.COM | |
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