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 c3sparling

Joined: 12/29/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2006 3:42:16 AM
i am using the windows vista beta 2 and yes i knwo its beta. i just hope they do fix certain things. wich probably wont happen over a short period of time. the one thing i would liekot see is a new sound scheme. i had found a sound scheme online that was supposedly the new vista sounds. saddly i installed vista and its the same old xp logon and logoff sounds. another thing is do they actually even pay attention to error reports. some web issues also. more drivers would be another great thing. anyways enough of my rantings. what are the thoughts of all the ppl who are and have tryed using vista.
 SteelCity1981

Joined: 8/16/2005
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Posted: 6/30/2006 5:08:25 AM
Resource hog is my first impression running Vista. Also this will be the first time that budget to mid range pc's that were bought last year would have to upgrade their hardware in order to run Vista decently.

Aero glass is OK, but nothing spectacular.


Many programs have still yet to get on 64bit bandwagon, which give consumers little reason to buy Vista 64.

An evolutionary OS, but not a revolutionary OS.

I still prefer Windows 2000 though. Still running Windows 2000 on my other pc and it has never failed on me.

The way I look at it is Windows 2000 is to Windows XP as to Windows XP is to Windows Vista.

Until MS does a complete redesign of the file system format then to me all Windows Vista is just another OS update.

Blackcomb windows next version that is set to be released in 2012 is suppose* to come with a hole new file system format that will retire NTFS.

Vista is nothing to waste your 300+ dollars on. I mean, better money can be spent on by upgrading your pc hardware or putting it towards a new pc. For 300 dollars you can either add 4 gigs of ram, a nice processor, a nice graphics card or even a huge hard 500gig hard drive. Now that's money worth spending on.
 c3sparling

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Posted: 6/30/2006 2:11:22 PM
actually i have the vista beta 2 installed. and the only major problems i have ran into are web relted and drivers. other then that i dont really notice any system hog in it. i run a p4 intel 3 spu and 512 megs of ram and it runs very smoothly. altho the media center option in it is very slow ot load the very first start. the areo look is ok but a little much. the only thing i have alot of problems with is the permissions to access everything. i have 2 drive sin my pc and and external and i cant access my second drive in it because of permissions. but i can acess all files on my external drive. its ok tho its a nice program for being beta. so you have to understadn they still have a bit to go b4 it becomes something that ppl will truely love.
 SteelCity1981

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Posted: 6/30/2006 5:01:23 PM
I tried to play far cry on it the other day and I noticed right off the bat it was slower then before when it was running on XP and I have a fast system. Now maybe this is because it's not fine tuned yet or maybe it's because it's because it's more ram hungry. So far not that impressed with it at all to the point where i'm going to buy it for 300 dollars.
 fluffy orc

Joined: 6/29/2006
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Posted: 6/30/2006 11:47:32 PM

the one thing i would liekot see is a new sound scheme
saddly i installed vista and its the same old xp logon and logoff sounds.

probably vista has same way to work with sound sheme as all other wondows.
control panel -> sound and audio devices -> sound
from list in below choose program evets hit browse and choose any sound file avaleble on your computer to replace standart windows sound.
not yet tryed vista but 1 or 1 and half year ago tryed longhorn. curiousity only.
now for 3 years useing win 2003 and absolutely happy with it. . sometimes computer run for months without restart. no one single system crash for all this 3 years exept one my experiment with overclocking. can't see any reason to go vista.
 misterhaze

Joined: 2/16/2005
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Posted: 7/1/2006 10:24:56 PM
Considering it's a Windows platform I would think that by now you would know not to expect to much.
 c3sparling

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Posted: 7/2/2006 1:13:48 AM
i think after vista goes mainstream. your not gonna see ms make a new os for quite some time. unless its one of these low grade os's like melinium was to hold ppl off till xp got out. i think that sure they have a long way and you shouldnt really expect to much from the vista beta 2 version. but it does give you a look as to what they are going to do with it. the funniest thing i found is in the system rating area under the control panal section. they said that the system rating is going ot be more widely used. what it is is your system gets based on the stuff you have in it. 4 catagorys cpu, memory (ram), graphics and gaming graphics. now they said that y9our system would run faster with a higher rating. but near the end of the help fille it also said that a system with a 3 or lower rating would confidently run any program. i dont know but this seems a little mental. its kinda like catagorizing it so either you have a fast system with no program supportor, you have a slower system that supports all progra's. just athing i noticed. i do lik ethe fact that windows defender comes intergrated into it and the windows sidebar is a nice little addition. but in fact i have had it on my system about a week now and i havent seen any really major system resource hog. i havent tried a whole lot of games on it. i did install need for dpeed underground 2 and most wanted. and they played fine. but yeah the whole glass aero look is a little much.
 Padawan61

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Posted: 8/10/2008 7:09:44 PM
I had to buy a new laptop recently and it came with Vista. Because I plan on nuking Vista in favor of XP Pro ... I guess my question isn't too important but if anyone knows the answer, please post.

In a Command Prompt, I typed: ipconfig/release <adapter name> and get the following message> The requested operation requires elevation.

Nothing more happens and the adapter is not released.
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 8/10/2008 7:26:13 PM
The requested operation requires elevation.

Simply right-click the "Command Prompt" and choose to "Run as Administrator".
 Padawan61

Joined: 3/1/2008
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Posted: 8/10/2008 7:47:06 PM
LOL ... thanks Ticket. You would think ol' William Gates could use more appropriate wording like "Administrator Modify Only" as opposed to "Elevation". But that's Microsoft for ya.
 crazytimes1

Joined: 3/24/2008
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Posted: 8/10/2008 11:34:08 PM
LOL ... thanks Ticket. You would think ol' William Gates could use more appropriate wording like "Administrator Modify Only" as opposed to "Elevation". But that's Microsoft for ya.

Actually, it is a slightly more appropiate wording than a lot of things done with windows. The concept of elevated privileges has been around since long before I was born.
 Steve_Sandy

Joined: 3/19/2006
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Posted: 8/11/2008 6:52:23 AM
got vista and xp, xp bsod on a regular basis and over the last 9 months guess vista has bsod 3 times max

pc was built for vista, so 64 bit dual core, 4 gb fast ram

running stuff in admin mode works well be it the command prompt, a game or explorer
 zeroNbeyond

Joined: 11/24/2007
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Posted: 8/12/2008 1:16:37 AM
visita is alright. i have recently fallen in love in with linux. open source software is so awesome.... and FREE
 Steve_Sandy

Joined: 3/19/2006
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Posted: 8/12/2008 9:41:27 AM
linux is good, but like to play games and for the most part linux games if they exist for the games I want to play are not easy to install

but use freeware for the most part on the pc,
eg
openoffice.org, videolan.org.....
 boyinachevytruck

Joined: 2/26/2007
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Posted: 8/13/2008 4:53:37 PM
vista is nice.....if you dont mind confirming changes 8 times before it happens. Way too secure for the avg user in my opinion.
 Steve_Sandy

Joined: 3/19/2006
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Posted: 8/15/2008 1:09:40 AM
the click yes to delete and then click yes to really delete is annoying, but also means malware can't run in admin mode - xp was and still is run in admin mode as can't get anything done with it - got an old xp box for downloads, it regularly blue screens
 NateC

Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 8/15/2008 8:52:58 PM
One can always disable the confirmations, but the reason they're there is to reduce administrative troubleshooting by making it harder for the user to screw the thing up.

But, those of us who are capable of shooting trouble get really pissed off with it because it inhibits us from doing our more complicated daily tasks.

I think that it would have been properly dealt with if it were an option from install; more secure for the joe average that doesn't know the difference between spyware, malware and computer virii and a less annoying install for those that are computer literate.

However, they didn't, so you have to live with it; you can either shut it off, or not.
 pcman27

Joined: 8/5/2008
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Posted: 8/16/2008 2:46:41 PM
I, being in the IT Industry, and having worked with Vista for over 2 years now and I am not a big fan of it. Yes it offers some better security, but Microsoft has layered so many administrative controls, that at times, it can bog down a tech who is working with this OS. Taht, and the fact the Microsoft has all but told the world to get ready for "Longhorn" in a few years. Some get the feeling that Vista is a "cuter" version of ME.

 NateC

Joined: 4/10/2006
Msg: 19
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Posted: 8/16/2008 8:22:02 PM
Oh come now, Vista's far more stable than that piece of shyte.

Although on that point...I don't recall Vista being out for more than 2 years. As far as software goes, betas no longer count once the final product has gone gold, being that there are definite distinctions between beta and final releases - especially where functionality, compatibility and stability are concerned.

All I can say about Longhorn, though, is that it goddamned better be the next Windows 2000. XP sure as hell wasn't.
 Fashen

Joined: 8/2/2008
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Posted: 8/17/2008 4:24:45 AM

linux is good, but like to play games and for the most part linux games if they exist for the games I want to play are not easy to install


Obviously you haven't tried using a live dvd linux distro which is made to play games after booting. No need to install. I haven't tried it yet but I think I will soon just to try.

http://live.linux-gamers.net/


One can always disable the confirmations, but the reason they're there is to reduce administrative troubleshooting by making it harder for the user to screw the thing up.


False sense of security if they click on ok you may have problems. How is it harder to screw it up if they just click on ok. People have a habit of just clicking on ok without even reading. Best way to prevent crap like this is to educate the users, it would prevent a lot of headaches.
 NateC

Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 8/18/2008 6:21:49 AM

False sense of security if they click on ok you may have problems. How is it harder to screw it up if they just click on ok. People have a habit of just clicking on ok without even reading. Best way to prevent crap like this is to educate the users, it would prevent a lot of headaches.


False sense of security or real sense of intimidation and annoyance? :P The average user that doesn't know jack all is put off by these messages, that's the point. The problem for MS is, the average user that knows nothing at all knows at least two techies that know much.

Regarding Linux and gaming, I think the guy's talking about emulation and Linux's less efficient gaming capabilities (and they are).

Linux (and Unix) is a craptastic OS for gaming. Not because of lack of availability, but because of the way it uses resources. I don't think it allows games to essentially shut almost everything out like Windows dows, and that probably has more to do with security than anything else if that's the case.

However, in my case, driver emulation is also an issue because I have an R200-series video card, which hasn't had new drivers for about 2 years now, I think.

Anyway, the primary use I have for Linux is networking and productivity software, both of which is handles extremely well. Mind you, the Tetris clone is a hell of a lot of fun, too.
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