| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 10:16:43 AM | I was watching this very interesting show the other day that talks about weight and weight issues. All the info came from the WHO.
Now apparently, the average male (30 – 39) is 5’11” tall and his weight should be 146 – 179 lbs to be considered average. 180-214lbs is considered overweight.
If they are over 215 lbs they are considered obese.
What really concerned me was the fact that, unless they were in the morbidly obese category, most of the men (who were in fact obese) on this show thought that they were “average”.
Since obesity is the cause of type 2 diabetes and is a major player in heart disease and stroke, I was concerned enough to post this.
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 10:42:30 AM | First of all most men...well considering that most men play video games or, watch the tube, or do nothing much but veg, or don't get enough exercise cause they are too busy too. In this day and age most men need to work and don't have much time to work out or stuff although they should. First of all that is not the reason why people get type 2 diabetes....The reason for type 2 diabetes on old age on-set diabetes. This means that they get it most of the time in there old age once things start to slow down...just like getting older people start to not do as much as when they were young. When they are over weight it is possible for heart attack forsure, but it depends what they consume food wise and also drinking pop or smoking, drinking alcohol or drugs, if they are eating fast food everyday too. Smoking constricts your blood vesels and makes your blood pressure go up this means that it is likely you can get type 2 diabetes. Type 1 is juvenille diabetes..means that your pancreas pretty well never worked and needs insuline shots. It is also for MEN 13% chance of being past on in there genes of diabetes. For women it's 12%. You can never get rid of diabetes EVER...once you have it, once it is undercontrol and stabalized then it's easy to live your life normally( so to speak considering there is pills to take maybe, and more snacks to have and less sugar intake...watching lifestyle, and watching what you eat, and trying to exercise more). But just because someone is over the weight "limit" doesn't mean that they will have type diabetes or necessarly have a stroke or heart attack...you need to brush up on your knowledge about this. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 11:17:09 AM | Here is my take on this entire thing.
Yeah, I'm overweight. You know what, I'm fat and sexy, period. Should I lose weight? That's for some doctor to "recommend." Fact of the matter is is that most of those in the health care profession don't even take their own recommendations. How many nurses and doctors out there smoke? You'd be surprised. How many doctors and nurses out there are overweight? Quite a few.
At the weight I'm at now, I look healthy. And I feel healthy. My blood pressure is lower than most peoples and I've been abnormally healthy my entire life.
I put on the fact that I have a few extra pounds, which I do. According to the statistics that you posted, I should probably put obese, but oh well. If I could get a hold of a picture of me when I was at my ideal weight, you'd puke, I swear to god. Picture a skeleton with hair and skin and that is what I looked like. Now, if society finds that sexy, great. Personally, I felt depressed, sick, and I couldn't stand it.
But that's my opinion. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 11:25:43 AM | Well, I had listed myself as "average" originally.
I am 6'2", and weigh about 210 lbs.
My doctor however has told me that I am actually quite fit.
That a lot of my body mass is muscle (I don't work out 24/7 but I do keep in shape).
And that muscle weighs more than fat.
Also, a lot of the women who have seen my body, have told me how there is nothing "average" about it. That I am in very good shape, and they class me as "fit" or "athletic".
Which is what I've changed my profile to.
To me personally... weight doesn't matter much, in moderation.
I don't care if someone's "overweight". If they have a little more around the edges.
And there's nothing wrong with a BBW... as long as they are still healthy.
Some people have various physical reasons why they are heavier than average... and that's fine.
If you have some extra pounds... I don't care. Assuming of course that you're at least keeping yourself in decent health.
Those who just sit around and veg, and who eat nothing but junk food... well, I don't have as much patience for.
There's a difference between letting yourself out a little... and having a total disregard for your health. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 11:40:10 AM | Heh, actually, I did that before posting. :p
It is different for everyone depending on age, height and weight.
Someone shorter than me would have a lower "average weight" class than people of my height.
Simply put though... I think people don't have to try and all look like athletes or models.
But just have the self respect to keep yourself healthy.
There's nothing wrong with some extra weight on your frame... just don't let yourself fall apart. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 11:49:11 AM |
I think people don't have to try and all look like athletes or models
Adam....I did not say anything remotely like that.
I was just shocked that men had this serious health risk that they, apparently did not know anything about. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 12:23:50 PM | Weight is a screwy indicator...
Just as a piece of information, the WHO is an international organization. Take into account places that have smaller people, such as Asia (especially south of Russia), the Middle East, Africa, and South America...
Many of the males in these areas are smaller than Americans. One of the large reasons for this is the amount and type of food consumption that the 'typical' American eats, along with the growth hormones in the foods that are consumed here.
The 'average' may not be the case, but I think that most guys are thinking more to the lines of 'healthy', which is more to do with body fat than anything else.
According to this statistic, if I was 0% body fat (just speaking as a theoretical possibility) I would be considered overweight, and if I was about 7% body fat I would be considered 'obese'.
And, for what it's worth, I think that's a general thing among males and females. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 12:30:54 PM | Average cannot be figured by a BMI calculator most people are not stick thin which is what you say average is. I think the weights Dr's use are nuts. Most women in America are a size 14 or over but that is considered fat or obese. Men are the same way if they are the size most men in America are then you/Dr's would consider them obese. I think the whole way of figuring how much a person should weigh should be changed. If I weighed the 125 they say I should I would be sick and all bone yuck.
Also it is really bad that when I go shopping there is one little section out if five that has cloths in the size I can wear but most women wear my size it makes no sence. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 12:49:40 PM | OP i would take your question alittle more serious if you posted a picture of your avg body. and also while you think you need to pass on some infromation to us men about need to be more concerned about weight and health i see that you choose not to list yours on your profile.
as far i as know you could be a little chunkie too. so as far as i'm concerned you have no question worth my answer.
have a nice day | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 1:18:27 PM | Average weight is a relative term.. if you as your Doctor he will give you whats in the Books.. If you put 20 people side by side and and they were all 5"11 and 12 of them were 200lbs, then thats your average..So then the average there in your mind at least is 12 fat Guys.. 
If your writting this cuz men that are contacting you are on the heavy side then adjust your profile and say I want a guy thats skinny, or I'f you can pinch an inch don't email me. | |
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| I think this is a stupid ass thread just to say that guys are fat these days...???? WTF
Posted: 7/4/2006 2:26:01 PM | | Well I don't know where you get your facts from...but I live in Canada and Canadian women are more at risk for that because they store fat differently...and no you don't have to be fat to get diabetes or a stroke or a heart attack and NO it's not MOST cases... and diabetes is not THAT genetic as your saying... 25% chance you will get it if BOTH parents have it...It is different if your a women because certain different thing play a factor. You really don't know what your talking about...this is Canada... we are not in England or what ever the hell you are talking about...you have no clue. Don't send me anymore stuff cause I can't stand people that don't know what they are talking about. I just went to school for this type of this I am now certified and I know what I am talking about. I don't understand why you are so concerned why men a over weight or not...who the hell cares...should be u.... | |
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| I think this is a stupid ass thread just to say that guys are fat these days...???? WTF
Posted: 7/4/2006 5:39:49 PM | OMFG.......
OK Tango, the article I sent you was from the New England Journal of Medicine. Not from England.
My girlfriend who is an Endocrinologist sent it to me.
It is the premier journal of medicine in North America and the article is recent. Just thought you would want some actual medical facts.
Don't worry I won't be sending you any more articles........ | |
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| I think this is a stupid ass thread just to say that guys are fat these days...???? WTF
Posted: 7/4/2006 8:00:06 PM | | According to this yes I am overweight (5'9" 195) but it does not take into account how the weight is distributed. I am actually quite healthy at this weight. I walk 2-3 hours a day ride my bike at least an hour a day plus I work a physically demanding job. I am quite muscular and although I do have some more weight to lose aroung my belly I carry my weight very well. I am a work in progess, 6 months ago I was 230 pounds and yes that is obese. I lost the woman I loved partly because of my weight. My goal is to be 180 pounds any less than that would not be healthy. | |
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| I think this is a stupid ass thread just to say that guys are fat these days...???? WTF
Posted: 7/4/2006 8:19:59 PM | instead of having words at describing yourself I always said that drawn picture of body shape should be used that way there would be no misunderstanding.
Thin = not much mass, small muscles and very little fat.
athletic= more muscle mass than fat and usually toned
average= not really toned, not really thin, not really fat, just average lol
a few extra pounds= according to the medical journal if you have more than 20 pounds extra you are obese
big well everyone knows that one. | |
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| Do men just not know what really constitutes an average weight?
Posted: 7/4/2006 8:28:35 PM | Does anyone????? I agree some men lie or deny their body type. But women never do??? There are no women here at POF that are 160 lbs and say they are "average"? 250 lbs and have "a few extra pounds"? I am average... 5' 10", 150 lbs and am told all the time I look skinny. Yes, diabetes is a problem, obesity is a problem, and so is denial. Men and women alike.
Sorry if I offended anyone....
Buck | |
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