| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/8/2006 2:26:20 PM | Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
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There is a historical record that there are large planetary bodies that have orbits of over 3000 years. They leave the solar system and every few thousand years they return.
It is my belief that we are very close to another visit by one of these large planetary bodies. If you believe in this theory what makes you think that it is true?
How do you plan on dealing with it? Please make your posts sucienct and to the point....
This post is politial in nature because IMHO it is something that our political leaders are trying to keep a cover on. And if it does pan out as true it will have an immense impact on the political climate. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/8/2006 2:40:48 PM | | My understanding is that they are not large bodies, but small ones. Smaller than the moon. And their orbit is so long because they are way, way out there. Past Pluto. I don't think anyone needs to keep a cover on it, Nova did a show on it recently. Except for astrologers I can't imagine what you believe the impact could be. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/8/2006 4:23:03 PM | | Just my opinion but I wouldn't trust a main stream news source if my life depended upon it. They are competly controlled and owned by speciall interest. Maybe the control is not as apparent as the government control on say radio stations in Canada it just is more suble here. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/8/2006 10:55:42 PM | Hey, all: (well, the 2 of you!)
I am sorry but I find this to be highly suspect--you must realize, scientists are a rather independent lot, and where pure research (which is what this is) is concerned even more so. If there was a confirmed, large planetary body with only a 3000 year orbital period it would have been in astronomy books a long time ago. I would be interested in the "historical record" you cite. I've been a science geek all my life, took astronomy classes in college and still read Astronomy, and Sky and Telescope.
As was said, if there is anything to it, it is probably an asteroid, one of millions of large rocky solar system features, which have near misses with Earth all the time. They range in size from a car to a soccer stadium. Many are visible with a scope and they have published orbital data--that is, where they are at all times. In fact, there is very little we DON'T know about the solar system.
I could be wrong, but at this point my conclusion is, this falls into the category of wild rumor.
If you can offer any concrete information, please do.
David
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/9/2006 3:01:42 AM | I disagree with you about the scientists if you control a mans pension or his grants you control him completly.
If I had a phographic memory I would be able to give you more specifics as to why I give this idea some credability but my mind doesn't work that way.
Lots of bits and pieces of information from alot of sources that I find credable, that seem to suggest that something is amiss.
Unexplained things such as a pole shift I think about 3500 years ago when the North pole was somwhere in Ontario. The discovery of mastidons that were flash frozen with food in there mouths. Nothing mainstream explains it but some such as Dr. James McCanney http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/ has a theory that a large body can cause effects like this. RBNlive has had some guests on also. One of their hosts John Moore
has inerviewed numerous submariners that say that the military is planning for a 300 foot rise in the oceans.
There is a biblical passage about "wormwood" in the end times
reports that many governments are moving their offices away from the coastlines expecting the ocean levels to raise by 300 feet.
Reports that these undergound cities that were built for nuclear war in the past are a lot more common and numerous that thought in the past.
You will find no smoking gun that is for sure, but neither can you for other things that I would bet my life on such as the US involvement in 911.
I don't need evidence that would convince a jury. I just have a gut feeling right now and my gut feelings are pretty acurate.
If you like science you wil find James McCinneys ideas very intrigueing he lays waste to a lot of conventional wisdom and I give this heritic a lot of creedance.
BTW I have a good science backgound also. I took engineering at Carnegie Mellon and Penn State and computer science at Arizona State.
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SoTexMan are you off the grid? I was for quite a while and plan on going back off when I buy some land as I will probably have no choice. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/9/2006 8:50:42 AM | Hey, all:
Well, you asked for rational input. The evidence is just not there. At 3000+ years, either these planetary bodies have perigees (closest approach) clustered together in time, in which case the Greeks and every other contemporary culture would have been rioting in the streets and committing mass suicide, and a clear indisputable worldwide record, or they are spread out over time, and we would see them periodically through time, again with a clear obvious record, and some would be visible right now. There are maybe millions of very sharp amateur astronomers worldwide, thousands with VERY good equipment, who haven't seen them. There are those who spend ALL their time comparing photographic images of one bit of space to detect motion that suggests a comet or asteroid or planets. They have computers that do the same job simply, digitally, tirelessly, and rapidly. 'Is the pixel on or is it off?' These amateurs are extremely competitive, and waste no time in sending notices that they have found a new solar system object. The discoverers get their names on them, and it is a huge feather. They used to do it by phone; now is on the web.
The military has contingency plans for a vast array of scenarios, much of it make work for the Pentagon. There is in fact reasonable concern over global warming and sea level rise. ON the other hand, they have drawers marked "string too short to use" that they empty once month to justify their budgets. It's Alice in Wonderland, Catch-22, Hitchhiker's Guide, ADD, ADHD, sociopaths, and many other things rolled into one. On the other hand, they have contingency plans for winning hearts and minds, and at the same time, killing everyone in the room.
I don't put any weight behind mythology and that includes the bible. Period.
So, you asked for "level-headed" responses, so there you have it.
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Yes, I live off-the-grid, and have been for 8 years. The sense of independence and personal responsibility is unmatched, except for maybe living on a motorcycle with money and time to go anywhere you wish. Two ends of the same freedom spectrum, perhaps.
David
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/9/2006 8:53:57 AM | | Yeah, for a thread titled that he's looking for level headed responses, he's kind of not living up to the point. Seems weird to be extremely sceptical about mainstream media, but accept at face value ludicrous claims from other sources. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/9/2006 9:17:43 AM | It's political in nature because you have paranoid theories about the guvmint? I'm not buying that, but then again, maybe I am one of THEM...
Planet X is sure to return soon, and how I know is people are getting fatter and fatter, accumulating mass, in an effort to balance the gravitational forces soon to be in conflict. Opps, level head...forgot about that. Hmmm. How can an absurd question be answered in a level-headed manner? I failed. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/9/2006 10:23:18 AM | I have read a couple of Zacharia Sitchens books.
I find his ideas interesting and possibly valid, but his writing is tiresome.
I have an open mind about Planet X.
If it ever comes, we'll just see, won't we ? | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 7/9/2006 8:38:45 PM |
At 3000+ years, either these planetary bodies have perigees (closest approach) clustered together in time, in which case the Greeks and every other contemporary culture would have been rioting in the streets and committing mass suicide, and a clear indisputable worldwide record, or they are spread out over time, and we would see them periodically through time, again with a clear obvious record, and some would be visible right now.
There are historical records from what I gather. Babalonian records and Aztec records that describe events such as this.
The historical record from that time period is however is not very complete.
Let me add this aside about historical records: I have experienced quite a few things first hand only to read the very next day --- a very skewed and incomplete record of it in the local paper. This makes me VERY skeptical of the accuracy of any historical record and I tend to out of neccesity read between the lines.
There are maybe millions of very sharp amateur astronomers worldwide, thousands with VERY good equipment, who haven't seen them. There are those who spend ALL their time comparing photographic images of one bit of space to detect motion that suggests a comet or asteroid or planets. They have computers that do the same job simply, digitally, tirelessly, and rapidly. 'Is the pixel on or is it off?' These amateurs are extremely competitive, and waste no time in sending notices that they have found a new solar system object. The discoverers get their names on them, and it is a huge feather. They used to do it by phone; now is on the web.
These bodies are in the southern hemisphere and out of the reach of amateur astronimers at the moment. i.e they are too far out and if you don't have a cordinate how are you going to locate a relativley small body beyond pluto when the large telescopes have not had much sucess at doing so? Sure there are acidental discoveries...
Like I said all the big observatories are under government control in one way or another | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 9/22/2009 11:40:04 PM |
There is a biblical passage about "wormwood" in the end times
And another mythology talks about the Medusa turning people to stone with her gaze; what's the point? | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 9/22/2009 11:43:46 PM |
Yeah, for a thread titled that he's looking for level headed responses, he's kind of not living up to the point.
He isn't soliciting for level headed responses, he's soliciting for people that agree with him. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 9/22/2009 11:46:32 PM |
You will find no smoking gun that is for sure, but neither can you for other things that I would bet my life on such as the US involvement in 911.
The president ( Clinton) couldn't keep the fact he was getting oral seex in the oval office a secret, but the govt. can keep secret a faked terrorist attack involving hundreds if not thousands of people??  | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 9/23/2009 6:29:35 AM | For the sake of argument, let's say your gut feeling is right. Planet X is due to return soon, and it is on a direct collision course with Earth.
What are we supposed to do about it?
Edit: I see this thread is actually several years old, and the original poster is likely not around to discuss it further. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 9/23/2009 7:13:57 PM | Why would the government be trying to cover up the existence of a planet?
Wait a minute . . . unless . . . it has sentient life and they get universal health care!
You sir, are a genius and I would like to join your cult.
Where do I make my check payble too? | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 9/28/2009 10:19:15 PM |
There is a biblical passage about "wormwood" in the end times
This is a lie that Jack Van Impe likes to tell. Chernobyl actually means black grass or black stalks.
http://artemisia.eu/chernobyl_en.html
Sumeriologists are united in their agreement that Zecharaiah Stichin doesn't understand Sumerian. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 9/28/2009 11:01:39 PM |
There are historical records from what I gather. Babalonian records and Aztec records that describe events such as this.
So.....read any of that stuff yourself?
The oldest surviving text in an Indo-European language (admittedly not as old as the oldest Babylonian texts) tell us of a God named Indra, who flies through the sky in a chariot pulled by (take your pick) sometimes elephants, sometimes horses, drinking lakes full of an intoxicating substance called soma.
And? | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 9/30/2009 2:20:32 PM | For those whom think it is impossible watch this short clip to understand what they are talking about might be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t04tXthYdqQ
Impacts on earth and mass extinctions are proven to have happened and they do have evidence that shows them to happen around every 26 thousand years and we are due for another any time now if that is true.
I think it deserves a good bit of looking into but, I would not worry about it too much even if it was true it would be over in a blink of an eye and wouldn't matter too much to us anyways, we would not be around long enough to care.. | |
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| Soliciting level headed views on Planet X theory
Posted: 10/1/2009 6:57:24 PM | "Planet X is due to return soon, and it is on a direct collision course with Earth. What are we supposed to do about it?"
We're going to fly Bruce Willis there on a space shuttle and he's going to drill a hole into it with the last tranmission on the drill and the last drill head... and then he's going to stay to detonate the atomic bomb they lowered into the hole and the resulting two halves of planet X are going to miss the earth on either side by only 400 miles... and we get to wave our flags again... | |
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