| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/18/2006 3:56:10 PM | Hi all,
I'm considering buying a mid-size pickup truck. The Toyota Tacoma and Nissan Frontier look to be the best bets in their class. Tricked out the way I want them, the Toyota is more expensive by a couple of thousand, but generally gets better marks for quality. The Nissan is less expensive and has better towing ability, but comes with fewer niceties and isn't rated as highly for quality.
Anyone got any advice on which is the better buy? I'd like to hear the positive and negative aspects of each from people who own them. Thanks in advance.
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/18/2006 8:17:38 PM | | I'm going to go with the Toyota. (I'm a jeep guy...if I were smart I'd buy a Toyota or Nissan...but like I said, I'm a jeep guy.) Performance wise...they're nealry the same (you pointed out the differences). There is something about a Toyota that "holds" its' style a little longer. A '90 toy still looks good while the '90 Nissan just looks old. I would imagine this would help resale in the future. | |
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/19/2006 11:52:12 AM | Not to offend you but have you checked on a american made truck such as a dodge dakota or ford ranger, they are both good trucks... but if i had to chose one of your selections i would go with the toyota. | |
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/19/2006 1:06:01 PM | imo go with nissan, i have a titan and i love it great vehicle, what are you looking for? just for regular truck use or towing? Still im not sure you want my imput because mine isnt a frontier  | |
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/19/2006 3:00:28 PM | Not offended at all, mudflap. My last two vehicles were American made vans. I have been very happy with them on the whole. If I were in the market for a another van I'd probably buy American. I have looked at US made trucks. They just aren't rated very good compared to the Toyota and Nissan trucks, nor do they offer as long a warranty. The Dodge Dakota is my third choice after the two Japanese trucks, but it is definitely in third place at this point.
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/19/2006 3:11:25 PM | Thanks for your input, acasha. I will be using it for regular truck use most of the time and heavy towing several times a year. The Titan and the Frontier actually share lots of parts, design features and styling. So please do tell me what you like about your Titan. The Titan was the first truck I seriously considered buying. I'm not sure I really need a full-size truck though so I started looking at the mid-size trucks since they get better milage and are easier to maneuver in tight quarters. You might just talk me back into the Titan though.
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/19/2006 10:32:43 PM | hey, well first i have to say yea shitty milage, and i mean they really lie, i get like 12 mpg and we put this tornado thing under the hood that is supposed to give you more and now im up to 14 well i made a new friend that i say to every day "see you tomorrow!" lol he works at the gas station lmao before the truck i was driving a van that felt like i was going to roll it everytime i take a corner, it never feels like that, quick to excel and soo comfortable,the stereo in it is really good, when i got it they did the spray in bedliner and the rust proof underliner, nobody thinks to look at nissan but really if you talk to them and compare what company will give you what things on your truck for one price range you will see what one is worth it, had mine almost a year now and i love it  | |
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/31/2008 4:44:33 PM | Im happy with my 2002 nissanFrontier it gets 26 mpg with a 2.4 motor and they last forever. no truck payments too  | |
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/31/2008 4:53:01 PM | | Stay away from toyota. They treat their employees like $hit. They are not an ethical honourable company you want to be supporting with your cash. | |
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/31/2008 5:19:59 PM |
Stay away from toyota. They treat their employees like...
Well, there are a thousand or more very happy Toyota employees here in WV who would argue otherwise. Our local Toyota manufacturing facility is probably the most popular place for blue collar workers to get a job in the state. Whenever they post openings they're overwhelmed with applicants, and the employees have voted down outside attempts to unionize by wide margins. I've visited the facility and met nothing but satisfied workers.
Not to mention that their environmental ethic is outstanding. For the past five years not a bit of waste has had to be landfilled, not even lunchroom waste. They've found a home for everything.
But I admit I'm a Toyota fan. I don't know much about the Nissan, so can't make a fair comparison, but I've had Toyota trucks for close to twenty years now and have found them very dependable. Generally what finally goes is the frame, although Toyota keeps tweaking their manufacturing process to try to eliminate the rust problems there.
And as a sign of their commitment to their buyers, when late nineties era tacomas started to develop frame rust problems, Toyota voluntarily extended the rust warranties on those models for fifteen years. If my '98 Tacoma frame becomes a problem before 2013, Toyota will pay me 1.5 times the excellent quality blue book value of the truck regardless of the condition it's actually in.
I'm a big fan of midsize and smaller trucks. Not only is the fuel economy better, but they're so much easier to maneuver through my woods or park when I take mine on the road.
So that's one happy Tacoma owner's report. Good luck with your decision,
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 7/31/2008 5:23:07 PM |
Im happy with my 2002 Nissan Frontier it gets 26 mpg with a 2.4 motor and they last forever. no truck payments too
I have a 2001 Frontier King Cab and I must say I love it. Before I had a Ford Ranger and it was in the shop 3 times before 35K miles. The Nissan has only been in the body shop to get collision repairs (not my fault). Of wait, I did change the battery earlier this year after over 8 years. I'll get new fan belts next week, and that is the extent of repairs I have done in over 8 years. Not bad! My Frontier truly has lasted much longer than I thought, especially since I really don't do all the services like I should. I've never owned a Toyota, but I have also never met a person who was unhappy with their cars either.
Don't know about Toyota trucks, but the Nissan Frontiers are made in Tennessee. | |
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 8/8/2008 9:51:19 AM | wvwaterfall said:
Well, there are a thousand or more very happy Toyota employees here in WV who would argue otherwise. Our local Toyota manufacturing facility is probably the most popular place for blue collar workers to get a job in the state. Whenever they post openings they're overwhelmed with applicants, and the employees have voted down outside attempts to unionize by wide margins. I've visited the facility and met nothing but satisfied workers.
Read an article by the National Labour Committee at nlcnet.org about some of the business practices of toyota. There are more than just these that toyota is guilty of.
Give them more time and they will despise the place. Toyota is entirely disinterested in the concerns of workers although they will tell you that they are. World class liars is what they are.
I would never ever ever buy another toyota product in my life they are so despicable. The public never learns about their unsavoury business practices because it get's kept internal most of the time. They do deserve to be wiped off the face of the earth as they have no integrity or ethics of any measure.
Toyota is a popular job because it pays well - and not because it is a "good" job. Employees are threatened, harassed, and overworked on overburdened processes all of which falls on deaf management ears because the profits are too good. Oh, but they'll tell you they care about you! Yes, right up until they walk you out for the last time because you have a repetitive strain injury that means your job is going to the next younger body.
Union? One technique toyota uses is to hire a slew of employees full time just before a union vote so they can pad the number of probable "nay" votes for unionization. They also try to spread myths and outright lies about unions to an often uneducated ignorant workforce who buys into the scare tactics.
Toyota likes to boast they have never had a layoff when in fact they have had many. What happens is the company lays off the contract workers. I don't know about you but in my book that is a layoff. | |
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 8/8/2008 11:00:19 AM |
Give them more time and they will despise the place. Toyota is entirely disinterested in the concerns of workers although they will tell you that they are. World class liars is what they are.
I can only speak directly to the situation at the WV toyota plant, which does not in any way support your charges. They've yet to cut back ANY employees, contract or otherwise, as the plant continues to expand and consistently scores at or near the top of national productivity ratings for all automotive facilities.
I worked directly with them on their environmental practices, which include a grant program for local environmental efforts that plant employees are paid to participate in as judges and such.
I know that every employee in the plant, down to whoever sweeps the floors, is actively encouraged to pass suggestions for how to improve their process up the chain of command, a very short chain as all management personel work in an open area clearly visible from the floor. The plant manager has the same sized desk and work area as anyone else, and if he's picking his nose everyone in the plant will know it. They proudly publicize all the great improvements that have come from the bottom up.
That manager once told me in casual conversation that "when it comes to worker safety and the environment you need to use the same strategy for both - put a fanatic in charge." At the time I was impressed that he elevated environmental issues to the same level as safety, but it also speaks to the level of concern he shows for his workers well being.
So what you describe is certainly not the case here. It may be elsewhere. It's also worth noting that the other alternatives here in WV for laborers have traditionally been to work in the mines - an industry with a far lower traditional standard for caring for the well being of their employees. To this day mining fatalities occur regularly, as do citations for unsafe working conditions.
I'll keep driving my Prius and Tacoma with pride.
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| Toyota Tacoma vs. Nissan Frontier Posted: 8/8/2008 3:33:38 PM | Personally I would go with the Toyota. I think the Tacoma may be a bit less fuel efficient, but it's all around better engineering and a much safer vehicle if you happen to have or want kids.
Not to offend you but have you checked on a american made truck such as a dodge dakota or ford ranger, they are both good trucks A lot of Nissan's and Toyota's ARE American made. Besides, Chrysler is also supported by a foreign company...Daimlar. And the only thing Ford is really good at is ruining the reputations of other companies. They bought Jaguar...Jag when to crap. They bought Land Rover...it went to crap too. | |
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