| Dog Attacks!
Posted: 7/19/2006 5:30:29 PM | If you haven't heard about this on the news yet, I am sure you will.
A young girl, 5 yrs, has died after a three dog attack.
Are the dogs at fault? The owners? The young girl/ her family for wandering in the yard?
Personally I wouldnt own a hunting type dog...but if they were mine, I would have them put down. Gees, I wouldnt keep them if they attacked chooks.
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Posted: 7/19/2006 5:58:44 PM | i think you need to put more info about this.. were they wild dogs ? or owned ? what type of dogs.. some are more mean then others... and if owned.. did they get off their restrants ? were they restrained ?
its really depends on alot of these facts.
if all three is a meaner breed and have been trained o hurt.. the owner and trainer are to blaim.
if they are trained well and this is a prevoked insedent by the child... its both the owner and the childs parents fault.
kids need training too ya know.
if they are wild.. enough said... wild and owned... owner fault for not training and owning a dangerouse dog .. not keeping the dog.. dogs.. in a area where children can be at risk. or harrass the dogs.
i think most dogs that have attacked should be put down only if they have a history of attacking. if they dog has no history they should be manditory put in a training fasility... and if the dog attacks again after the training .. put it down | |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 6:21:03 PM | Here is one link.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/060710/2/zpug.html
Yahoo7 20th July 2006. | |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 6:26:38 PM | ok read it and both parents and owner should be held responsible i think.
and the dogs should be put down.
that poor little girl.... i would never want to be one of the parents of that little girl... so young... and the guilt of leting her wander off would kill me inside. | |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 6:46:52 PM | the dogs are no different to loaded weapons...and as such those type of animals should have been securely locked away with no possible chance they can get out..or a child could get in
I dont think you could possibly keep a child locked away , mistakes get made..but like you say velvet i would hate to be the parents for so many reasons | |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 9:32:47 PM | Maybe the dogs should be re-trained.
And the owners should be put down. | |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 9:52:34 PM | yeah that's a WAY better idea!! those types of dogs may have a predisposition for being aggressive but if they were looked after well and trained to be nice dogs then there wouldn't be so many problems! :)
I love staffordshire bull terriers personally. They are my favourite.
it is not like they have EVIL intentions. They are just dogs after all.
The owner's should put a lot more effort into training them to not attack but to be sweet things that I KNOW have the potential to be. :) | |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 11:07:54 PM | the parents for not controling there bloody kid!
the dogs were locked up in a confined area with leads on, the girl (even if shes 5) broke into the confined area and cause of this she was attacked | |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 11:08:49 PM | what was she doing to the dogs? was she poking them?
know1 will ever know!!! | |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 11:27:31 PM | | i agree with you buddy ^^^^^^ | |
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Posted: 7/19/2006 11:53:39 PM | hmmmmmmmm......
dog attacks. the owners should be put down not the dogs. go the dogs!!! i love dogs!!! | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 12:24:49 AM | yes but maybe not sooo free that they fall into other peoples' yards after climbing a tree!! what the hell!! what about a bit of supervision for the children??
it is a combination of things which is the result of her death. not just the big bad dogs!!!! | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 12:40:58 AM | | I have only briefly heard the news and have only quickly read these posts but I think the dogs should be put down. I don't believe that people should keep vicious animals, even if it is on their own property. The death of a child is terrible and should be avoided wherever possible. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 12:48:07 AM | you can't hate and kill dogs for being what they naturally are.
just like a shark comes along without the EVIL intentions of killing a human - a precious human that kills hundreds of thousands of animals for rediculous reasons - and thinks the person is a seal or some other food and kills it...so off the big humans go searching the waters for revenge and pay back.
**** why dont they just kill all the freaking animals on this planet ..all the animals that could potentially kill precious human lives. humans are alreayd doing waaaaaaay more than enough damage to other humans, the environment and animals indirectly and directly anyway...why stop at the animals that have gone and killed.
why don't the precious humans just go and kill every single ******* hunter dog and all the sharks and all the bears and all the pumas and cougars etc. So we can live "happily" in peace..in a more ****** world than we already live in.. with all the cows and the chickens and the INTELLIGENT PIGS that are HARMLESS that we kill every ******* day.
kill me now
god damn. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 1:11:06 AM | I don't like killing anything, even spiders, but I think that if we can prevent accidents/deaths happening, then we should.
We can't really control the sharks swimming in the ocean or the wildcats in the jungle but we can maybe not have vicious hunting dogs in suburban neighbourhoods. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 1:13:00 AM | yeah this is the difference ..the HUMANS make the difference.
kill more dogs for a girl. who knows she could grow up and turn out to be a criminal and kill people herself.
i think this topic is discussed enough in the ****ed up media that it doesn't need more discussing when there is nothing we can do to control the outcome of this event anyway. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 1:40:59 AM | I think that the owners of the dog are to blame, as a dog normally only behaves how it has been taught or on instinct,i think that the dogs didnt see her as a child but as prey. If they are hunting dogs, they should either be caged or muzzled at all times. Grey hounds must be muzzled if there not in cages ... I also feel that the parents are to blame, as why would you let a child of 4 yrs of age wonder around not knowing where she was..
I feel sorry for the dogs but i think they need to be put down no questions asked as once a dog gets the taste theres no stopping them attacking another.....its sad but true.....
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Posted: 7/20/2006 1:42:35 AM | | ok this is very wise and true :) good on you !! :) nice summary !! | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 1:52:43 AM | When and where I was growing up, most of us were bitten by a dog at some point (and some by snakes and lizards) and I remember a particularly nasty attack by bull ants! We were bunted by billy goats bigger than us, chased and trampled on, attacked by geese, fell out of cars, thrown off horses into barbed wire fences, fell off slippery dips and broke arms, or heads.
These things did not happen to the grown ups.
Kids do stuff. Kids do stuff without realising the consequences or possible results of what they are doing at the time. And things happen.
As tragic as it is, it's the nature of kids and their lack of knowing stuff.
I might be friends with someone's dog who will come out wagging its tail and jump all over me. That same dog might not be so friendly if they are not home. Now hasn't everyone seen this?
Grown ups know this stuff. Kids might not pick up on the signals. Or worse, might when growled at throw something at the 'stupid dog' or hit it with a stick. Lord knows anything might have happened. But to label all hunting dogs as EVIL is daft. Beagles anyone? Or was that bagels?
We had a rotty for years that was the biggest SOOK and he would run full pelt up to strangers (all 53 kilos of her) and they would melt and give her cuddles as soon as they saw the sooky lala look in her eyes. She adored children! She got really distressed if she heard a child cry and would have to go comfort them. Seriously! Or if she saw a child in a group left out by the others she would approach and drop a stick or ball at their feet inviting them to play.
BUT! One night I was out at a rehearsal and the kids were home by themself with her. Apparently someone tried to get over the back fence. And this mild mannered sooky lala kitten type in dogs clothing went APESH*T. All and sundry were shocked. But she put on such a display that whoever it was decided to go back the same way they came, quickly.
My silly children, being afraid someone was going to hurt their beloved tessy, went out to drag her back in lest someone hit her or hurt her. DUH!
And so, my now deceased but much loved sooky lala, when something happened to threaten her kids, and the alpha (me) wasn't around, she took up the job.
She never showed any agression in any way even after that. Not once til the day she died. But honestly, she did exactly what I would have done if I had been home. Went out there like a maniac and made it quite clear that the a-holes trying to break in were NOT going to get away with it. And that my kids were not left unprotected.
All creatures, human, canine or otherwise will (given the circumstances) protect or project animosity if threatened or those they love are threatened.
Even me. And I bet you do too.
I grieve for both families. It is a tragic accident. No amount of blaming or debating will bring this child back, or any others that have been lost to accidents of many kinds.
PS: We didnt have fences around pools either. We watched our kids when they were little, and when old enough taught them not to go in the water without a grown up. Come get us and we'll go together. Did some acccidents happen? yes Do they still happen? yes | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 3:17:04 AM | Sadly it's just a very unfortunate accident...
The onus lies with both parties - the parents for not monitoring the movements of a little 5 year old and the owners for not securing the pen in an adequate fashion suitable for hunting dogs.
Dogs of any breed can be very unpredictable I've seen even a lovely mild mannered collie turn incredibly nasty when provoked. But people should really think twice about purchasing those dogs that 'lock' their jaw when they bite.
I don't want more rules to govern our everyday actions, I'd rather more of us learnt to use our intelligence a little more. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 3:41:58 AM | ok, here we go - everyone is going to hate me for this one.
the girl was 5 (or 4 one report I read stated) .... it is her parents who are responsible. No one elses. I would never let a 5 year old wander off unattended like that. period. done. end of story.
i feel for the parents, i most certainly feel for the poor little girl, what a horrible death she must have suffered, and yes, i feel for the owner of the dogs- imagine the guilt he will suffer because of this - he was a friend of the family. but when it comes right down to it...it is a parents' responsibility to monitor their child - no different than the dozens of kids that drown unattended in swimming pools...
and for those of you out there who are unreasonably attacking certain breeds of dogs...stop. there's absolutely nothing wrong with any certain breed (barring perhaps the wolf/dingo / wild dog cross breeds - what do you expect from ferals?) It's the owners that turn them bad. Some individual animals (not breeds) have bad tempers, just like humans.
Personally, I wouldn't trust my cat with a 5 year old. Or a 10 year old. Or anyone but myself or his vet - he's tough, rough and unpredictable. And that is the mark of a responsible pet owner. DO NOT EVER LEAVE SMALL CHILDREN ALONE WITH ANIMALS - even the cuddly ones. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 4:01:10 AM | come on cuddly
in this case you may be right but some chained crazed dog breaks his chain and attacks because some lunatic has trained the dog to attack.....these dogs should be shot...or maybe we should just shoot the trash that buys and neglects these type dogs.... | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 4:24:44 AM | shoot the trash ...
got that part right in any case
like i said, it's not the dog , it's the owner.
and "chained crazed dog" is a bit out of line i think - you don't know that the dog is normally "crazed"
any dog, I REPEAT ANY DOG, can attack, particularly when in a pack, as these clearly were.
they are animals. children should never be trusted alone with animals.
what gets me is they seize the animals, put them down, and don't punish the owners for not caring for them properly.
the parents will however have to live with neglecting the safety of their child forever. | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 5:42:10 AM | the dog might be crazed because of its upbrining.........
it may simply be overprotective of pups as happened to me recently twice....and guess what type it was?
i had patted the dog many times previously
the owner was teenage and as usual did not show much affection to the dog
the dog is of the vicious type and unless we are going back to viking or early roman times we should get rid of these breeds.....
the neighbour has such a sweet little dreamy five year old it would be a pity,no it would be an outrage....... | |
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Posted: 7/20/2006 5:48:25 AM | I have known many dogs some i would trust more than my life with, others not a sausage
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common sence does'nt exsist anymore it seems | |
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