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Posted: 7/21/2006 2:57:05 PM | Each summer our tiny Island is inundated with spanish students ranging from ages 12 - 18 yrs, they come here for about a month to learn how to speak English. Generally we dread them coming over because without parental supervision, they tend to go a little wild shoplifting and acting like they own this country.
But they are mostly dreaded because they tend to talk really loudly and quickly at the same time as each other - its hell to sit on a bus when there is a group of spanish students aboard, they sit anywhere they like and shout across to each other regardless of the other passengers' comfort.
Earlier as I was coming home, a young spanish boy leant over the headrest of the seat of the man in front of him and shouted "Ola Pablo !" to his mate at the other end of the bus - This incensed the man who's "space" was invaded and he turned rather dramatically around and said just as loudly "shut your f.....(he stopped himself just in time before he used the F word) face.....this is our country and it is totally unacceptable for you as a visitor to come here and shout like that, you should have more consideration and respect." To which the man sitting adjacent to him said "F off - I am Irish too and I say the young fella can shout as loud as he likes"
He continued... calling the man an ***hole and asking him how he would feel if he was a guest in their country and was spoken in such a way ?
A war of words ensued with the first man proclaiming the second to be an idiot who probably left school at age 12 etc. etc. and the little spanish boy just looked dumbstruck whilst me and my son laughed ourselves sick.
But which man was right in his assertion of the situation ? | |
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Posted: 7/21/2006 3:03:20 PM | What are you confused about - you mad man ???
Edit: thanks for that Fernilee - Ur welcome anytime, in fact everyone who loves the Irish sense of humour is welcome. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2006 3:05:11 PM | I adore the Irish humour!!.. just love it!!.. I told you it was you Demeter.. you attract all the egits!!
I'm coming to your house for a week... God help Ballywhereveritisyoulive !!!
We too have the little Spaniards to stay. I've often thought of hosting one, but got put off by a friend who had a 15 year old male to stay once. she commented that he used to spend most of his time in the bathroom .. and when he did come out, the bin was stuffed full of tissue paper. 'I have no idea what he was doing in there', she said...
this from a woman who'd been a nurse and who's 40th birthday party I was at!! | |
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Posted: 7/21/2006 3:07:04 PM | | The second one perhaps, because it is bad manners to point out other people's bad manners especially if they are from another culture and don't know the "rules". But then he was pointing out the bad manners of the old guy. They should've both just kept quiet and complained about it after, like everyone else :P I think you made my head spin too with this one. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2006 3:36:47 PM | Being of Spanish origin myself i fully sympathise with the first guy who was sitting
on the bus minding his own business and speaking from experience having a load
of Spanish women all shouting and talking at you at 100mph at the same time
is something that i wouldnt want to wish on my worst enemy.
Edit Just a minor point, i have personaly witnesed young Irish kids behaving in what
can only be described as less than acceptable behaviour in Torrevieja which is a
popular holiday destination for Irish people in the south of spain.
So summing up i say well done to the first guy and he gets my vote for saying keep quiet to the spanish lad and calling the second guy an ar$ehole. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2006 3:41:52 PM | | The Irish humour is something not too many people understand! We're unique and also quite passionate about life! | |
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Posted: 7/21/2006 4:08:48 PM | Msg. 6 I agree Hams all children, especially groups of children who are given a bit of freedom will misbehave - its not actually about which country you hail from but the fact the children think they can get away with it and I thought the first man was dead right to let the spanish boy know his behaviour was inappropriate and rude (he could've put it a little nicer tho.)
Absolutely Irish Eyez, couldn't agree more but I am beginning to really really like the English sense of humour more and more these days. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2006 4:41:47 PM | To be honest you have to think that in any culture shouting over you elder's aint good....
even if they are repeating war stories.  | |
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Posted: 7/21/2006 11:52:54 PM | Have to agree with the general concencous, it was the lad who was in the wrong for bad manners, its getting harder and harder to pull kids up for bad manners in society without being labelled as something nasty and undeserved.
I love sitting and listening to my Nan and Bamp tell me stories they've told me a hundred times before, its the story of their lives. To disregard anything they have to teach is to disregard part of myself.
Respecting your elders is one of the most important lessons in society IMO and one of the fastest eroding values, oiks who annoy the elderly really do have something to fear from me.
The sally army band was playing by the river last year and a couple of teenage lads were taking the pi$$ so I went and threw em in..they were still laughing...weren't when their towels and dry clothes followed...
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Posted: 7/22/2006 4:28:11 AM | The Man who shouted at the loud child was definately right and good for him for doing so. I would be too scared to pull up a lot of kids for unruly behaviour now for fear of reprisals and I reckon that guy was brave, but definately did the right thing.  | |
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Posted: 7/22/2006 4:38:06 AM | | I dunno man, i say live and let live! The young man was probs just excitable and without adult supervision got a bit carried away and the older man to say that 'this is our country' chesnut is a bit 'off'.. i agree with the second lad who said 'well im irish aswell and i dont mind'.. theres like 2 issues here.. one is the young spainard's poor social skills/manners and the older irish guy not too impressed with the lively group of spanish people!! Would he have said anything if it had been a lively group of Irish kids i wonder?.......... | |
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Posted: 8/6/2007 9:00:27 AM | I think a lot of our friends from across the big pond are not getting the BIG picture here:
That is, it is perfectly acceptable and classless to travel by public transport in Ireland.
And then we get these young yahoo's coming here and deliberately, not accidently or by fate, deciding to split themselves up all over the damn bus and have a conversation at high pitch, high volume and in a language the natives don't understand. That's just beyond rude. If you ever go to Spain, you will find that behaviour would not be tolerated there, so why should we be forced to put up with it here just so a few wannabe rich guys can run pseudo english schools and make a quick buck? Fair dues to the old man for speaking up and the other "gentleman" sounds like your average Dublin scanger just out to have an arguement with the older guy just for the sake of causing trouble. That's why i left Dublin, I would feel safer in Berirut at the height of the war there than in Dublin. At least in Beirut you knew who the enemy was and where the fighting would come from, can't say the same thing about Dublin.
Personally I say the Gardai should have been called in and the whole shebang charged with a breach of the peace. Time in Dublin for a zero tolerance policy. Not like NewYork, more like Singapore and that includes the death penalty for drug pushing, the regular use of corporal punnishment for "minor" offences like car theft, petty larceny etc etc...now that would be more of a deterrent, look at Singapores record. They did it back in the 60s, faced an outcry on humanitarian grounds etc etc...and in under ten years cleaned up their country.
Time for the same in Ireland, now wheres my razor laced bamboo cane for the next bunch of Spanish yahoo's?
Mick the Magnificent,
Irish by birth, Cork by the Grace of God and Bald by choice.
http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com | |
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Posted: 8/6/2007 9:10:44 AM | at msg 1,
just one comment, if i were to visit Ireland or any other country and had to take a bus, i would choose any seat, i mean, any free seat! and if my mates were far from me, then i would shout, just to make me hear | |
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Posted: 8/6/2007 1:13:10 PM |
That's why i left Dublin, I would feel safer in Berirut at the height of the war there than in Dublin. At least in Beirut you knew who the enemy was and where the fighting would come from, can't say the same thing about Dublin.
That is a gross misrepresentation of Dublin City. Cork and Limerick are the most violent Cities in Ireland, Galway comes a close second.
P.S. Have you ever actually been to Beirut ?
just one comment, if i were to visit Ireland or any other country and had to take a bus, i would choose any seat, i mean, any free seat! and if my mates were far from me, then i would shout, just to make me hear
That's your perogative Pedro but it's inadvisable to do it for the sake your own wellbeing. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2007 1:31:40 PM | To you it may be a gross misrepresentation:
You didnt have 3 motorbikes stolen in 3 months from your home..
You didnt have a junkie try to stab you with a needle...
You didnt come home twice in 6 months to find the same junkie in your home, uninvited.
And you didnt discover that your neighbour was part of a Drug gang.
Where may you ask did I live for all this to happen?
Not in some so called deprived area of the city but in an upper socalled select area of Swords!
To me its nothing more than the truth as gained by experience.
I got my happy little ass out of the filthy drugladen and garda apathethic City as fast as I could by the time of bike no. three going missing and havent gone back since nor will I ever!
And the thing about cork having worse crime stats is nothing but a figment of someones imagination. We don't have heroin down here to really screw things up!
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Posted: 8/6/2007 2:11:34 PM | To come back to the origional posting...
Yes I find it incredably annoying when a person comes into my country and totally disregards 'our way'.
I make allowences for misenterpritaion... over zealousness when they meet others from their own country... the need to have their own status... BUT ... not when it disrupts my homelife it is unacceptable | |
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Posted: 8/6/2007 2:17:34 PM | The Irish man is right. 
Both of them. Just a matter of opinion. | |
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Posted: 8/6/2007 2:20:57 PM | I have no Irish origins at all and never even been there, but...
English-speaking people all over the world use it as the language of choice to talk to their compatriots wherever they are.. it's not unfair for the Spanish to do the same. Shouting might be rude but its something everyone does occasionally.. | |
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Posted: 6/30/2009 8:54:23 PM | having someone shout in your ear would piss anyone off.. it doesnt matter where your from or what language you speak.. its just rude...
ok I know this is off topic but I am hoping to take a trip to Ireland and was wondering where I should go, see, stay... any suggestions ?
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Posted: 7/1/2009 8:56:12 PM | | I visited Ireland last summer liked what I saw. We started in Dublin and went all around the western parts up to Belfast. I couldn`t believe how narrow the roads were. I live in the prairie province of Manitoba and we have a large population of Irish living here. My ex g/friends were of Irish descent. Thanks for the welcome. I welcome you to Canada. I think that in someone else`s country you should show respect. I usually go to the states for a visit and I most defiently respect the Americans and their country. | |
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Posted: 7/1/2009 9:02:52 PM | | Take a tour. I saw lots of things. Those town street are just full of people and roads are pretty narrow. I went last year and we started in Dublin and bussed all over the place. Last stop was Belfast then hopped over to Scotland. Try it. You`ll like it. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2009 4:40:44 PM | | Id say when a group of irish people are abroad in groups we pobably do the local peoples heads in! | |
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