| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 7/28/2006 10:31:29 AM | | Has anyone out there been successful with an herbal,vitamin,food combo to regulate a thyroid with the above named diagnosis? I would love to hear some success stories with that condition. | |
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| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 8/9/2006 10:31:50 AM | I am not to sure what Hashimoto's thyroiditis is. I have had a thyroid problem since I was 7yrs old I am now 44. I know whether you have a hyper or hypo can make a big difference mine is hypo do I have a slower metabolism and gain weight easily. Before I was diagnosed I had what you would call a gouter (sp) like a base ball in my neck. Once I started on the proper medication it disappeared and never returned. I get my thyroid levels checked every year when I have my physical (called a T7 or T4 I believe) and my doctor actuallly degreased the dosage.
I don't think I would like to mess around in herbal products, unless you really trust the person selling them. I was once told to take echenchia (again sorry about the spelling) you take this when you feel a cold coming on or the flu and it is supposed to help boost your imune system, I later found out that if you are asthmatic whick I am you shouldn't take this herb.
Speaking from experience I would stick to my doctor, don't mess around with your health especially with something so important.
Sorry if I put a damper on your question
Cheers
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| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 8/9/2006 4:15:20 PM | never heard of the condition.....will watch for responses....
pity thread???....lol.....just laugh it off....the person was either in the wrong department or just having a bad day....some forget that their are real ppl on here..lol | |
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| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 8/9/2006 4:56:12 PM | You may try desicated thyroid hormone but you probably need to get it from a homeopath or a naturopath. Since Hashimoto's is on the borderline of an autoimmune disease you will also want to look for some immune boosters as an increased antibody production is a significant byproduct of Hashimoto's. You may seach for a health care professional that practices visceral manipulation. In my experience (and I've treated at least six people with Hashimoto's) you find that the thyroid gland is often stuck backward and off to the side ever so slightly. Osteopaths primarily, but Massage Therapists and sometimes Chiropractors practice viseral manipulation.....to name a few.
Good Luck and let me know how it goes please.
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| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 8/9/2006 6:59:33 PM | Hope this helps...
Here's Q and A article...
QUESTION:
I've been diagnosed with a goiter on my thyroid. The doctor told me to eat more salt to help prevent the growth from becoming larger. I am an athlete, and I am worried that salt is not that good for you. I've always tried to avoid it because it makes me look fat. Are there any supplements that I can take to stop the growth from getting larger, without having to consume all that salt?
ANSWER:
Your situation is common. Many people with goiters are instructed by their physicians to consume sodium, or sodium rich foods, in order to stop the proliferation of a potentially cancerous growth. The only problem with sodium, as you point out, is that is not good for you in excessive amounts.
The chief concern with sodium intake is its impact on blood pressure. Research has demonstrated conclusively that a positive dose-dependent correlation exists between sodium and blood pressure, even when other factors like obesity are controlled for.1
Sodium is a chemical compound made from sodium chloride (NaCl). Sodium chloride on its own is not effective at preventing the growth of a goiter. What is needed is Iodized salt - NaCl with iodine added. Goiters develop as a result of iodine deficiency. It stands to reason, therefore, that the substance of relevance to stopping the growth of a goiter and preventing iodine deficiency is, well, iodine. It is for this reason that iodine was added to NaCl in the early twentieth century.
For your doctor to suggest that iodized salt is the best - and only - way to obtain iodine is for your doctor to be medically irresponsible, and factually ignorant. Whenever health problems arise, the best place to begin an investigation into the matter is the diet of the afflicted person. Usually the solution is found where the problem is.
Iodine can be obtained easily not from supplements, but from the best source of all: nature. Spinach a great source of iodine, and not only will spinach provide you with plenty of iodine, it will also help to normalize your blood acid levels. Protein and carbohydrates raise the ph balance of blood, and vegetables lower the balance, because they are extremely alkaline - so its important to consume a healthy portion of vegetables daily.
Any health issue that you have can usually be sufficiently remedied through nutritional means - not pills. Think of pills or supplements as something that SUPPLEMENTS, but does not constitute - your diet. Try incorporating spinach into your nutritional plan three times per week, and you should begin to see the results you desire-minus the high blood pressure.
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| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 8/10/2006 3:57:19 PM | Good information thescorp75, but you cannot suppose that Hashimoto's and Goiter go hand in hand as it isn't the case. Nerertheless, great information ;)
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| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 8/10/2006 4:42:47 PM | Hi. I have Hashimotos along with another 3 autoimmue conditions. By taking the western medication I don't have *any* issues with my thyroid. I just have the usual blood tests quarterly and adjust the thyroxine as required. There are no side effects to taking thyroxine... I don't really understand why you wouldn't want to just take it?
Let's face it - it's an autoimmune condition whereby your immune system thinks your thyroid is foreign and is creating antibodies in order to destroy it.
I have friend with hashimotos also and he trials all sorts of natural therapies rather than take the thyroxine. All with little or no success and of course he always feels ratsh*t because of imbalance with his thyroid hormones.
Oh, btw yoga is really good - quite a few postures to stimulate the thyroid.
My 2c worth | |
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Posted: 8/10/2006 9:06:53 PM | ohhhh contraire lolololol (sp?) lol ....I know many who have went the oh natural route with NOOOOO sucess.....but I am extremely glad that you have had success..........
Really
Cheers
DGUY | |
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| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 8/10/2006 9:21:00 PM | i have had Hashimoto's disease for years, and to my knowledge the only thing that works is perscription meds....
i wished i had a success story to tell ya, but i dont..... | |
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Posted: 8/10/2006 9:28:01 PM | Agreed. just what I was saying... take the medication.
You can't reverse it or go into remission. It's there - like diabetes | |
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Posted: 8/12/2006 5:48:10 PM | I was diagnosed with it a few years ago. It's more common in women,but men can get it as well. I never experienced any problems or symptoms, the Doctor caught it in a standard blood test.
I've never tried anything herbal. I take 137 mcg of synthroid per day and I'm fine with it. | |
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| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 8/13/2006 7:06:24 PM | I dumped the synthroid for the other drug and all my hair came back after
losing a good number....it was scarey for a bit but now I'm enjoying the
new hair - very nice!
The problem with synthroid (for me) was they kept telling me I'll get my
hair back but months went by and finally I took over & got what I wanted
and ordered the new meds.......everything seems to be back to
normal but I still feel tired and when I ordered more blood tests, it
came back as a possible Hashimoto's Thyroid - apparently the doctors
resist tests for T2 and T3 for what reason I don't know. But people, be sure
you go to a thyroid specialist because most doctors are not entirely sure
what they are doing.
This is a great thread and hope you guys share what works to bring up
the level of energy. Last night I slept about 18 hours before I hit the gym. | |
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Posted: 8/25/2006 11:28:50 AM | | Back from hell. My doctor quit and I ran out of meds, that is why I thought I would try to go natural. I was trying pills from the health food store mostly kelp. They were full of salt which my chiro said is a natural thing. (kelp being found in the ocean...lol) Puff Puff hold water. I tried iodine on my skin to soak in and got some good results but hard to tell how much to put there. I also had a protein shake a day to get my amino acids and enzyme pills to help digest it. Finally went to a clinic and am back on meds. My chiro said if you just eat your 5 fruits and veggies a day everything will be balanced just fine. I like the spinach idea. Thanks for all the input and I'm still looking for anyone that has the answer. By the way I am in the middle of a good book on the subject. More later. | |
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Posted: 8/25/2006 11:40:17 AM | Iodine- A great source of iodine would be ''kelp'' - '' dulse '' - common Plants from the sea........................... Avoid all possible sources of '' flouride '' especially in municipal water supplies.. ( city tap water ) toothpaste-non-stick cookware.... Or any other suspected possible source.. | |
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| Hashimoto's thyroiditis
Posted: 8/25/2006 5:34:26 PM | There isn't so much iodine in regular vegetables because the soil is depleted.
In the US they put iodine in salt. In the UK they put it in cattlefeed, so that it gets into dairy and beef products. If you don't eat meat or dairy you're more likely to get iodine deficient here.
If you're taking suplements then it's not only iodine but also selenium and iron that are the key ones.
Beware though. Too much iodine can also cause goitre. I think you are better off with a supplement of 150mg and no dietary source than risking variable amounts from diet. The consultant I saw had treated women whose multivitamin tablets had caused the goitre. I'd be wary of the skin-patch method for that reason too.
Mine is not autoimmune, nor is it under active or over active. It's simply swollen. It has definitely decreased in size a bit since I've been taking supplements, but swells when I get stressed or emotional or when I get a migraine. That's probably related to the fact that I am quite a tense person and adrenaline stimulates the pituary gland which stimulates the thyroid -- or something like that. So stressing not only gives me headaches but fat-neck too. Joy!
Hashimoto's, being an auto-immune disorder is different from a deficiency or stress reaction. Acupuncture might be a good thing to consider. I'm beginning to think those guys really know a lot. Although I can't understand how it works. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 9:59:26 PM | | I have it too. I got it about 4 years ago and fortunately it was caught totally by accident when I was having some blood work done. Herbal remedies won't work. Eventually your immune system will totally destroy your thyroid and you risk death. I am afraid it is synthroid medication for live. | |
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Posted: 6/5/2008 10:21:02 PM | HI..well i don't believe it is meds for life. I've been able to cut meds in half...and my antibody levels are down 400 points. I was just wondering if anyone else was having some luck in healing the body back to balance?
I'm still on a journey of health...but doing a lot of different alternative things, including changing my lifestyle.
be well...
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Posted: 6/8/2008 3:28:51 PM | | I have this disease and will always be on synthetic thyroid medication until the day I die my doctor told me. Never ever heard of regulating it through herbs, vitamins and diet!!! | |
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Posted: 6/8/2008 8:55:36 PM | I agree with you Karen. I have been told if I was not to take synthroid, I could go into a coma and . . . Hashimoto's is an autoimmune disease. As autoimmune diseases go it is the best of the lot. Both of my parents had different nasty autoimmune diseases. I consider myself fortunate.
I think Amy is wasting her time and probably making herself feel run down from lack of synthroid, which has no side effects whatsoever, so what is the big deal? | |
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Posted: 6/13/2008 5:15:14 AM | Hello,
The big deal is this.
And I'll preface all of this by saying we all must find what works for us. IF you ladies are not concerned with what is happening to your over all health that's fine. I happen to be asking the bigger questions. WHY is this happening to SO MANY women? what can be done to lower the numbers, what's in store for our sons and daughters down the road. Did you know that there are 23.5 million people with Autoimmune disease? That is ALARMING TO ME! That is more than cancer and heart disease combined! But the awareness of the public is very low.
So 8 years ago ( diagnosed with Hypothyroidism) I was also told by my M.D. that all I had to do was take my medication and I would be fine. 8 years later by body is breaking down even further, I'm now diagnosed with Hashimoto's and Pernicious Anemia...both Autoimmune diseases. So I began wondering what I could do to help feed and heal my body instead of just sustaining life, but turns out I wasn't doing that either, my health was deteriorating like so many others who JUST CHOOSE to listen to their ONE doctor.
I've got a team of doctors working with me, towards my desired end. If you don't have that same desired end, that's fine. I resent the fact that you talk about me like I am some kind of stupid individual who wants to regain her health. "I think Amy is wasting her time and probably making herself run down from lack of synthroid, which has no side effect whatsoever, so what's the big deal?"
The big deal is the core issue is not/ was not being addressed by my M.D. That IS a side effect and in the long runt he body continues to break down.
I'm not run down. I ride 12 miles a day on my bike, walk for an hour, have 5 kids and run 4 businesses. I assure you I'm not run down. I'm not on synthroid because you don't get both t4 and t3 in that, and my body hair was falling out. I've been on Armour ( which includes both t4 and t3 which you need BOTH to convert over to the thyroid stimulating hormone) since about 7.5 years ago. I've been able to cut my Armour in half through various means. It's all blood tested proven, my body is not needing as much medication. That's a plus for me because it means somewhere my health is improving, which is my goal.
There are MANY people, BTW, who get off their medication, for all kinds of things.
You're just not looking and researching in the right places.
I'm working with Medical Doctors ( who think like you two but can't deny blood test results because that's what they base everything on, did you know that over 80 % of people with thyroid imbalances DON'T show up on BLOOD TESTS..this means they are going untreated by their medical doctors because the blood work isn't saying they have an issue, when indeed they have all the classic symptoms of hypo or hyper thyroid). I have 2 Naturopathic Doctors ( one is a stage 4 cancer doctor out of Florida, and no I don't have cancer but he knows what it takes to bring the body back to a state of health, off medication.) 2 Chiropractors and a Acupuncturist.
Health is a state of mind but it is also important to feed the body what it needs so it can do the job it was meant to do.
See posts on this site about The Autoimmune Epidemic...and maybe you might learn something.
I don't expect the two of you to understand anything I've just written.
BUT I have the right to be healthy. M.D.'s are trained to give pills, treat symptoms. I understand that's all you want. I want something more than that, and I'm being successful is bringing my body back to a state of homeostasis. AND I think people need to know there is an ALTERNATIVE to main stream medical treatment.
Be well,
~Amy~ | |
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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:50:43 PM | | What are you getting so bent out of shape over Amy? Of course you have a right to be healthy and if you find this works for you that is awesome, I simply said that I was told by my doctor that I would be on that medication for life and had never heard of it being regulated by diet and herbal suppliments. I hope the alternative works for you. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2008 2:58:11 PM | | I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's in 1994, by an endocrinologist, not a general practicioner. I did some reading up, what I could back in the 90's, before the internet became a wealth of info. She didn't seem to know some of the things that can happen with low thyroid, like losing the outer part of your eyebrows, which happened to me. Since then, I've just gone to my family doctor for my yearly testing. While the Levoxyl that I take seems to take care of some problems, others still exist and seem to be getting worse. I suspected that I had Fibromyalgia, and talked to a counselor that I used several years ago. She has Fibro herself and thinks that I may have it also. Now I have to go to a rheumotologist, just have to make an appointment. I'm bypassing my GP, because he doesn't seem much good except for general ailments. It seems that alot of doctors, including endocrinologists, don't test everything they should be testing, and according to some sources, Hashimoto's has a definite connection to Fibro. Anyway, it's always been my understanding that taking medicine for Hashimoto's or any thryroid ailment, is a life long commitment, and not something that can be cured by herbs or suppliments. My mother has a goiter, and she takes the same meds as me, just in a much lower dose. My daughter has Addison's Disease, a much more dangerous ailment. If she doesn't take her meds every day she can die within just a few weeks. While I can understand that some people don't want to take prescription medicine, there's a reason for it's being in existence. Take the pill, forget trying to cure this with herbal remedies. Just don't take it with grapefruit juice or eat grapefruit. Also, you shouldn't take cold medicines or aspirin or ibuprofen with them, unless it's at least several hours after taking the thryoid meds. You also shouldn't take vitamins until after several hours of the Levoxyl or Synthroid, as the iron in the vitamins can upset the absorption of the meds. You can Google all kinds of information on this, if you don't seem to get all the answers from your doctor. Also, be sure to read the leaflets that come with your meds from the pharmacy, as sometimes the info changes. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 6:22:43 PM | I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's about 20 years ago. A GP wanted to remove the thyroid which would mean I'd be on meds the rest of my life. I went to a Thyroid specialist, and he recommended synthyroid for me. Hence, I still have the gland (although it is destroyed) and will be on synthyroid the rest of my life. I do have to keep it monitored, as numerous things can affect your thyroid (even on medication).
Example: if you drink milk or take antacid tablets at the same time you take your synthryoid, it will negate the effects of the medication. Also, taking synthyroid with food will negate the effects as well. I take mine with water and on an empty stomach. | |
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