| 9/11 of what year????[Thread Closed]
Posted: 8/15/2006 11:18:35 AM | Ok, I will bite my tongue and not be vitriolic this time...this is embarrassing enough:
Some 30 percent of Americans cannot say in what year the September 11, 2001 terrorist
attacks against New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington took place, according to a poll
published in the Washington Post newspaper.
While the country is preparing to commemorate the fifth anniversary of the attacks that claimed nearly 3,000
lives and shocked the world, 95 percent of Americans questioned in the poll were able to remember the month
and the day of the attacks, according to Wednesday's edition of the newspaper.
But when asked what year, 30 percent could not give a correct answer.
Of that group, six percent gave an earlier year, eight percent gave a later year, and 16 percent admitted they
had no idea whatsoever.
This memory black hole is essentially the problem of the older crowd: 48 percent of those who did not know
were between the ages of 55 and 64, and 47 percent were older than 65, according to the poll.
The Post telephone survey was carried out July 21-24 among 1,002 randomly selected adults. The margin of
error is plus or minus three percentage points.
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060809/od_afp/usattackspolloffbeat_060809145351;_ylt=
ArnrtaXH3JkyylylPgoybNSs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3NW1oMDRpBHNlYwM3NTc
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| 9/11 of what year????
Posted: 8/15/2006 11:30:58 AM | we all have SOOO many dates and years to remember.. what is the big deal in forgetting the year it happened?
The lesson is not the year but the meaning behind what happened.. if they took something away with it in their hearts.. the year is pointless.. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 11:33:58 AM | | I think its mostly due to many people not caring about the news, not watching it or reading it and instead watching things like sports, reality t.v. shows, csi or whatever. They only have themselves to blame for being ignorant. | |
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| 9/11 of what year????
Posted: 8/15/2006 11:41:57 AM | I'm not even American and I know the day, month, and year of 9/11...Silly Americans!
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Posted: 8/15/2006 11:53:43 AM | ignorant?
ignorant is not in not knowing the exact date.. ignorant is not LEARNING from the events that happened. I think too many people are making a mountain out of NOTHING..
relax... take a breath and less we forget.. LMAO!!  | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 12:02:22 PM | Maybe that's the same 30% who still think Bush is a good President.
Remember, Remember the 5th of November. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 12:30:16 PM | | You've got to figure that a third of the wrong answers were people who just said the wrong year by accident. I've said some incredibly stupid things, but it doesn't reflect ignorance, just a brain that doesn't give me the information I need when I need it. I call my kids by the wrong name about 10% of the time. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 1:00:31 PM | Ummm in general the older are the wiser - Sorry to say they were far better educated then todays youth - doesn't make me feel real comfortable with who will be running the world when I'm an old fart.
Ok so i read your post and yes you are talking about older ladies and gentlemen here and memory tends to go.
You really want to scare yourself? Never mind your poll of the 60ish yr olds shhhheeeessssh -
Go into your local high school and ask the same question - see how scared you are at THEIR answers!
Try this something like 70% of High School graduates don't have any idea what the Holocaust was.
The world is a scary and sorry to say pretty moronic place - just keeps getting worse. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 1:56:52 PM | | I remember as well, partly because my nephew was born the same week as the attacks so I go by his age. LOL Other than that, it's just always referred to as 9-11 and that was the only significantly huge occurence that happened that year. Just like we remember birthDAYS, not birthYEARS. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 5:03:49 PM | | I'd reckon a majority of people, would not know off hand what year World War 2 started. I'd bet a majority of people would say 1941. | |
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| 9/11 of what year????
Posted: 8/15/2006 5:11:24 PM | Part of the problem is: 9/11 became a "brand", ...almost a logo, as such it's significance as a "date", has become secondary.
Catch-phrases and "buzz-words" usually help to blur things as opposed to focus them. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 5:17:17 PM | That's not a fair analogy, since we're talking about a completely different generation.
9/11/01 happened only 5 years ago, and I would think that most people *should* remember (they did, in fact, about 70%, right?)
I think the main reason that most people would forget is because they can't believe it's been 5 years since it happened. In most people's minds, it still seems like just yesterday. 5 years is a long time, and as some people here have said, most remember the event with vivid clarity. It's understandable to think it was more recent than that.
I remember when the space shuttle Challenger blew up, and about 5 years had passed, and I remember thinking that it seemed like it was just last year that it had happened. It's the same feeling with 9/11.
And I truly think more than 30% of US residents feel that Bush is a bad President... | |
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| 9/11 of what year????
Posted: 8/15/2006 5:59:38 PM | "Part of the problem is: 9/11 became a "brand", ...almost a logo, as such it's significance as a "date", has become secondary.
Catch-phrases and "buzz-words" usually help to blur things as opposed to focus them."
Exactly! The really sad part about the "branding" of the whole "9/11" thing is that the memory of the event has been tainted by the way it was used to try to justify an illegal invasion. Instead of people remembering those who perished in the attacks, the mere mention of "9/11" is more likely to bring to mind images of a lying "president" bullsh*tting his way into a middle east fiasco at the cost of countless more lives than were lost in the original attacks. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 8:52:09 PM | Interesting how many don't remember 9/11, considering in many areas it is an emergency phone number.
As for myself I equate it with the terrible and senseless killing on that date.
Speaking of bushs invasion, no I don't see a correlation because they are two separate issues.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, guess thats why I see nothing in common between the two. | |
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| 9/11 of what year????
Posted: 8/15/2006 10:09:29 PM | "Speaking of bushs invasion, no I don't see a correlation because they are two separate issues.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, guess thats why I see nothing in common between the two."
File under; DUH!!!!
It's nice that you're able to keep your recollections of that day fairly close to the real issue, but I take it you didn't hear ANY of Bush's speeches after the attacks, particularly his speeches in the period leading up to the festivities in Iraq.
Regarding the "two separate issues" and the "Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11" ideas, do you suppose you could pass those little tidbits on to the Bush regime? They don't quite seem to have grasped the concept. | |
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Posted: 8/16/2006 8:13:26 AM | Just a point on "branding" ...
A friend of mine has her birthday posted on a website I'm a member on. It's listed as 9/11.
Some Americans messaged her that she was a $%#$^^ for hating America so much, and using that "fake" birthday to express it. They did forget one really important detail, about Europeans.
They use a different way of writing dates, and 9/11 ( in this case) means NOVEMBER 11th. 
It's all about the brand.... | |
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Posted: 8/16/2006 9:57:32 AM | Two points...
First - 9/11 is more of a name than a date. People refer to '9/11' in the same way vietnam vets would refer to the 'Tet Offensive'. 9/11 HAPPENS to be a date - 95% of the time it's used in regards to the WTC bombings, it's being used as a name or a 'brand'.
Second - How the hell does 9/11 refer to november 11th? I'm confused  | |
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| 9/11 of what year????
Posted: 8/16/2006 10:13:33 AM |
Second - How the hell does 9/11 refer to november 11th? I'm confused
Numerical date "notation" format in North America, generally places the #s - "Day", "Month", "Year".
It should actually read 11/9/2001.
Not as "catchy" though. | |
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Posted: 8/16/2006 10:15:46 AM | ikusa,
"Maybe that's the same 30% who still think Bush is a good President.
Remember, Remember the 5th of November."
Here, here. You've got it right ikusa.....the US could use a good dose of "V for vendetta" | |
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Posted: 8/16/2006 3:53:39 PM |
Second - How the hell does 9/11 refer to november 11th? I'm confused
I think he meant it means November 9th.
Those darn European's!!  | |
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Posted: 8/17/2006 6:56:02 AM | Well, that's what you get for trying to give an example...and not proof reading afterwards....ooooopps.
( It was Nov. 9th, btw) | |
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| 9/11 of what year????
Posted: 8/17/2006 7:09:19 AM |
Well, that's what you get for trying to give an example...and not proof reading afterwards....ooooopps.
Your example seemed obvious to me. If that post wasn't proof read, you're better at writing than most of the newspaper reporters I know. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2006 7:48:48 PM | I'm not a reporter, but professional writing is a large part of my job, and I've always been a stickler for spelling and grammar (grammatical) mistakes. They stand out to me on a page, whether online or hard copy, as if they were highlighted, circled, underlined, and a big flashing arrow was pointing right at them. So much so that I'll struggle with the actual message that someone is trying to tell me because of the mistakes, and eventually, I lose interest and just tell them to go re-write it so I don't have to navigate all those obstacles.
The guys and I at work get a good laugh out of it, I even refer to myself as anal to a room full of nodding heads, but they're actually quite grateful that I am that way, as they learn from me, and it makes them step it up a notch too.
By far, my biggest pet peeve in the entire world is when I read something that I've sent out, and notice an error that I overlooked. Drives me up the wall!
However, there's definitely a time and a place for everything, and I'm not getting paid when I'm at home, and when I'm online and reading forums, spelling and grammar errors are grossly abundant. But that's the norm. It's nice when someone takes the time to proof what they type before hitting the submit button, but it's not necessary, and in fact, it's accepted. Not everyone is as anal as I am, although I do wish more reporters, or at least the editors, were.
November 9th, November 11th.... for some reason all I can think about is:
Remember, Remember the 5th of November!
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Posted: 8/23/2006 8:05:57 PM | There's a funny thing with the human mind in that it will block out periods of great personal tragedy -- I'm sure the psych majors in here could put the proper term to it. Well, I don't know about anyone else in here, but I remember every moment of that day, every vision, every thing that I tried to force myself to do over the days that followed, the British Armed guards playing the American anthem two days later, that started the healing. But I'll be d*mned if I could have told you the year. Somehow, it just didn't seem like an important thing to remember.
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