| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 8/15/2006 12:13:26 PM | | I have gotten to know some pretty mean hurtful people in the past. Being screwed around etc. Who hasnt been screwed around before eh? I consider myself someone who doesnt like to hurt people, steal, be untrustworthy etc., I like to treat as I would like to be treated. anyways what is with people out there who lie, cheat, steal, use, control etc., why do they live their lives like that? what do they have to gain by hurting another person and even more so in a relationship. I guess I am trying to understand what makes someone want to **** someone or a relationship partner around, how does that person who is ruining another live with themselves? I read in the forums here there is a lot of men/women who have fallen under the being lie to, cheated on, stolen from trap. any thoughts what would make a person want to hurt another for no reason? | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 8/15/2006 12:16:17 PM | | I dont think they want to hurt you,well most of them, but they just dont seem to not notice and/or care. which sucks just as much if not more if you ask me! | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 8/15/2006 12:31:16 PM | Trying to understand them is like saying
pigs can fly or Flavia can become 6 feet tall.
Don't try to understand them, dude.
It's futile...might even be fatal? | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 8/15/2006 12:32:57 PM | Who really knows? Probably because they can and they don't care about anyone other than themselves. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 12:47:01 PM | I read in the forums here there is a lot of men/women who have fallen under the being lie to, cheated on, stolen from trap. any thoughts what would make a person want to hurt another for no reason?
your post relates to emotions being fear based and undealt with anger issues
they retreat in to attack mode for protection a false feeling of security in their own mind where they feel comfortable with themselves.
The only time they feel worthy is when they are fvcking some one over....this relates to both men and women. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 1:15:32 PM | | I think it has a lot to do with them not being able to see far enough ahead to be aware of the consequences of their actions. Most people who do stuff like that don't go into a situation thinking, "Aha! I have an opportunity to be nasty to someone." They just do whatever they want without thinking how it's going to affect other people. They're self-absorbed and short-sighted. | |
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Posted: 8/15/2006 1:53:16 PM | What Planet did you say your were from?
You see, my friend, that's what we do here!
Always have and probably always will! | |
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Posted: 1/27/2007 12:54:59 PM | | I know this is an old posting but I do have a question.If you have a friend(and I now use that word friend but better lack of a word) takes something from your purse while you are visiting and he lies about it,how do you handle it?How do you confront this person?And before anyone ask yes I know it was him that took the money from my purse as I wasn't any where else that day till the next day and there wasn't anyone else there yet he still says he didn't take it but was able to come up with the money the same day as I told him the money was for a g'f that needed it for medicine for her daughter. | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 1/27/2007 1:01:39 PM | Profile of the Sociopath
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 1/27/2007 1:23:24 PM | | There IS a reason these people behave this way- power. or some sort of psychological need to make themselves feel better by making others feel bad, this is way too broad a question. That's not intended as a critcism, OP, just an observation. Peoples behavoir nearly always has a reason, it just may not be apparent, or only makes sense to the person doing it. | |
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Posted: 1/27/2007 1:43:54 PM | | If you are absolutely certain that he took the money and you have already discussed it with him, you decide whether you want to continue associating with someone you do not trust or not. He will not admit to the theft and he will do it again so staying "friends" with him will require your making sure there is nothing for his sticky fingers to pick up. | |
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Posted: 1/27/2007 4:38:03 PM | My latest theory on how this happens, at least some of it:
Some people grow up with so few advantages, or so many unfortunate things happen to them later, that they feel the world is not on their side, and neither are other people. To them, "success" is measured by how many people you can fool, and how many things you can take from them.
I agree with the idea that some are sociopaths. This may be the way they get like that.
For me, and a lot of people--I basically like my life, and think I've gotten a pretty good deal, and I want to co-operate with the society I'm part of and make it better. But if you felt left out of it all... you might feel differently. | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 1/23/2009 7:49:23 PM | Couldn't tell ya, though I have recently become a victim of it.
The job that I have can tend to put me away from home for long periods of time. Especially this past year with the crappy economy.
I ended a 4 year relationship last year because she refused to do anything with her life. Not to mention, she lived under my roof and support. As the economy down-turned, it became more apparent that I didn't the means nor desire to support another healthy and able adult.
And the "job" talk was not a new in the relationship.
So, basically, I kicked the mooch to the curb. But, apparently I did it too nicely.
I gave her plenty of time to find someone else to go and to move, which she did. Since her cellphone was on my account, I gave her plenty of time to get a new plan.
Basically, I didn't wanna be one of those azzholes that kick ya out and leave ya with nothing.
I was home, briefly, just after new years and everything was kosher.
I come this morning, and anything of value................is gone.
Do I think it was her? Absolutely.
Why?
The theif locked the deadbolt on their way out. Also, there's stuff missing that a pawn shop WOULDN'T take. Stuff like, bathroom linens and linen closet, plates and bowls and silverware, etc. But, the b!tch had at least one accomplice too because my brand new washer and dryer are gone!
Why she couldn't just be gone and leave it at that? I dunno! | |
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Posted: 1/23/2009 8:06:59 PM | I think you are wasting your energy spitting chips in this post. Negativity has its place in our lives; use it to better your situation. Smile Smiley 99  | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 2/1/2009 6:25:18 AM | Jesus Christ. That description of a sociopath explains everything! That is about 80% of the so called men who have messaged me!! Pity theres no naming and shaming facility for them! | |
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Posted: 2/1/2009 7:06:32 AM | You learn to read between the lines and catch the suckerfish before he can make his move............saves time.  | |
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Posted: 2/1/2009 7:55:29 AM |
That description of a sociopath explains everything! That is about 80% of the so called men who have messaged me!
Scary thought, huh? Reportedly roughly 4% of the population is "sociopathic" to varying degrees (and only a very small portion of that 4% go to the extreme of criminality).
Pity theres no naming and shaming facility for them!
It wouldn't matter as they cannot be shamed.
The best "defense" is a good "offense. Learn how to recognize them (male AND female) early and should you encounter those nagging inconsistencies that are not quite "lies", yet sound so plausable, etc...time to part company. It's of no value to waste one's time on trying to understand why they are the way they are. [Referring to opening post which I realize is "old" but the concept is just as valid today.] | |
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Posted: 2/1/2009 8:01:22 AM | | I use to wonder about people like that. Why some people think nothing of hurting another...I don't anymore. I just steer clear of them. Life is way too short. | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 4/9/2009 7:50:25 AM | | people does this because there not happy with themselves.these people actually enjoy this until it happends to them .some people have done this for so long they make them selves think its okay to do.and most of the blame will go on the victim. | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 4/9/2009 7:54:28 AM | Most people who posted in this thread have left, I wonder why?
was it because they were the type of people who got tired of lying, cheating others who stole their trust on the net? | |
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| Lying, cheating, stealing etc.
Posted: 4/9/2009 7:59:23 AM | And this is News you you, well i guess you got the wake-up call.
I trust nobody this way there's never a problem I depend on my self.
And can Smell a fast one coming around the corner, Been around the
Block to many times.
Women or men Lie cheat steal and use others for their own gain!
and theirs many out there.
SO STOP Being So TRUSTing! Problem partly solved.  | |
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