rks58
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| New British Film - Death of a President Posted: 9/2/2006 12:05:10 AM | Bush 'whacked' in edgy British mockumentary 01/09/2006 11.37.47 PM
CTV.ca News
An edgy British film about the fictional assassination of U.S. President George Bush is kicking off a firestorm of controversy ahead of its screening at the Toronto International Film Festival.
The listing of Death of a President, which has not been screened for the press, has been posted on the festival website under the low-key acronym of D.O.A.P.
The film is shot in the form of a documentary, using a blend of archival footage and computer-generated special effects to tell the tale of a president's assassination.
In the feature-length film, Bush is confronted by a large anti-war rally when he arrives in Chicago in October 2007 to make a speech to business leaders.
Bush is unperturbed by the demonstration and goes ahead with the visit, and is gunned down by a sniper as he leaves the venue.
The ensuing hysteria is further inflamed when the investigation by the "state apparatus" quickly turns its attention on a Syrian-born man.
The assassination scene echoes previous attacks on American leaders such as the attempt on President Ronald Reagan's life in 1981 as he left the Washington Hilton hotel.
The film will premiere at the Toronto festival on September 10. More4, the digital offshoot of Britain's Channel 4 network, plans to show the program on Oct. 9.
"It's destined to be Michael Moore's favourite film at the festival, I think," Canada AM film critic Richard Crouse said Friday.
"It's going to be one of the most controversial films at the festival for sure," he said.
The White House declined to comment on the network's announcement, saying it would not dignify the program with a response.
"It's a pointed political examination of what the war on terror is doing to the American body politic," More4 boss Peter Dale said at a press conference on Thursday.
Promotional materials described the film as "a thought-provoking critique of the contemporary U.S. political landscape."
Dale conceded that the program will be controversial but maintained that it was a work meant to provoke debate.
"I'm sure there will be people upset by it," he said. "I hope people will see the intention as a good one."
Director Gabriel Range denied charges of sensationalism.
"The film is based on meticulous research and interviews with FBI agents and people on the other side of the war on terror," he told The Times.
"It is a serious and sensitive film. There is no way it would encourage anyone to assassinate Bush and usher in Cheney's America," said Range, whose 2003 television movie "The Day Britain Stopped" showed what might happen if the country's transportation network ground to a halt.
Festival co-director Noah Cowan praises the film in a posting on the TIFF website.
"This is easily the most dangerous and breathtakingly original film I have encountered this year," he writes.
But he contends that the film does not launch a personal attack against Bush.
"Range simply seeks to explore the potential consequences that might follow from the president's policies and actions," Cowan says.
Britain's Channel 4, which is publicly owned but funded by advertising, came under fire last week by outgoing ITV Chief Executive Charles Allen for its dependence on reality TV shows and "shock docs."
More4's autumn lineup also includes "The Trial of Tony Blair," a satirical program about the future resignation of the British prime minister.
In the comedy, Blair seeks absolution from the Catholic Church after being accused of war crimes over his role in the invasion of Iraq. Those whacky irreverent Brits, what will they come up with next.
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 12:13:12 AM | | I think its simply creativity at work. I was watching news today and they referred to the issue as "Taboo" and not something that should ever be done and I asked myself...is this not some hypocritical bullshit ?.....hollywood has probably killed almost every president in the world and we loved it here in the USA. We like to believe that we can put a boot up anyones ass and do not appreciate any threat to that superior attitude. I think it will make a great movie / documentary and that everyone needs to remember........Its just a movie. | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 12:22:53 AM | I think that this film is threatening to the States precisely because it does not follow the typical hollywood messaging and protocol for the images that American media wants to project about the US.
I have no doubt that the film will be tasteful and perhaps ironic. The hype has to do with the fact that the US has absolutely no control or influence on how US politics will be protrayed--and the film will have some artistic credibility. Good. I think it will achieve what this artistic medium sets out to achieve and dare I say, likely do a better job than hollywood.
Any cute British men out there want to take me to see it? | |
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rks58
| Joined: 1/28/2006 Msg: 4 | |
| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 12:35:37 AM | Bush 'whacked' I just noticed that
Like I said before SOOOO many levels | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 5:50:39 AM | The acronym of Death of a President does it for me, - D.O.A.P. !
Its always good to have BALANCE in the World, like it is, seeing life from a different perspective. Hollowood throw's out so much stuff at us that it can often be like sorting the wheat from the chaff. Only today I opened an email from MGM promoting the new film, "Flyboys". An epic true account of innocent, young, American fighter pilots that went fight in WW I and came back as Heroes.
I have three young sons that all want to join either the Army or Royal Marines. How much of there choice is made from Hollywood indoctrination? There is a tide of "ghung-ho" in the World at the moment and I certainly don't want my kids to falsly get caught up in something that is; a prententious tyrants' point of view !
Good then that we have independant film makers that can give a balanced, alternative point of view.
I will feel pretty picky about the films I will watch in future, Hee.
Thanks for reading. | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 8:07:45 AM | | Any film about the assassination of a living head of state is in poor taste. Here in the states if a person talks about or writes about harming a political leader the CIA and FBI are kicking in their door to make an arrest. | |
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dmotz
| Joined: 7/25/2006 Msg: 7 | |
| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 9:09:14 AM | This is a shame...The filmmakers should be ashamed of themselves....I know for a fact...the left wing folks here will love the film...Disgusting! If someone had made a film like this about Clinton...the whole Lefty Isle would want to put immediate sanctions on the Britts.....Hypocrits! | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 10:17:11 AM | | I find this shameful as well.......... | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 10:26:01 AM | Help me out with this, because I frankly don't get it. I remember a film with Harrison Ford where terrorists were trying to kill him on Air Force One through the whole thing. And that was an action/adventure movie. They killed the First Lady in Independence Day. This is just a movie! Apparently it's about the aftermath of an assassination more than anything else, so it's actually raising some thoughful stuff. Didn't they kill the President last season on the series "24"? I think some people just need to whine. | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 10:31:26 AM |
If someone had made a film like this about Clinton...the whole Lefty Isle would want to put immediate sanctions on the Britts.....Hypocrits!
So you create a hypothetical situation, put words in the mouths of left-leaning people regarding the situation which never happened, and then you call them hypocrits for the words they never said about a situation that didn't happen. Interesting... | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 10:35:28 AM | | Why are we so terrified when we perceive som threat to our superiority complex. Our ego's get bruised too easily. Hollywood has made very many movies which show international leaders being assasinated. We cheered it on because we were stomping on some third world country. Its a damn movie. Lighten the hell up. | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 11:10:52 AM |
So you create a hypothetical situation, put words in the mouths of left-leaning people regarding the situation which never happened, and then you call them hypocrits for the words they never said about a situation that didn't happen. Interesting...
LOL...so I'm not the only one to see the irony of this. | |
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rks58
| Joined: 1/28/2006 Msg: 13 | |
| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 6:36:02 PM |
This is a shame...The filmmakers should be ashamed of themselves....I know for a fact...the left wing folks here will love the film...Disgusting! So movies like "In the Line of Fire" and "The Sentinel" are OK or Leslie Nielsen beating the crap out of Ayatollah Khomeni, Mikhail Gorbachev, Yasser Arafat, Muammar al-Qaddafi, Fidel Castro and Idi Amin is funny but a movie about the hypothetical fall-out of Cheney becoming President after an assassination is disgusting. I see. | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 7:23:57 PM |
This is a shame...The filmmakers should be ashamed of themselves....I know for a fact...the left wing folks here will love the film...Disgusting! If someone had made a film like this about Clinton...the whole Lefty Isle would want to put immediate sanctions on the Britts.....Hypocrits!
Nooooooooooooooooo...
don't do anything to Bush. it would only push things further to the right than they've been!!!
People are starting to see what this republican neocon/fascism is about... FINALLY. If something happened to Bush, it would be tragic for us all...
There are MILLIONS of Dubyah's. He succeeded despite his stupidity. He doesn't make decisions. He's a puppet of more powerful people in the US. Doing something to him wouldn't solve anything.
There might be applauding for this movie because everyone sees what a miserable failure his administration is, but the idea frightens me too much. The assassination in the movie, although it shouldn't be censored for the purpose of free speech in our society, might give someone a terrible idea...
couldn't be sure of this unless I saw the whole film though... | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 9:17:10 PM | The way I see it, the very people behind Bush... telling this man who doesn't even read the newspaper what's right... (A president of the US, can you believe that? Yet these are his own words... says he only reads the headlines...) are the very ones most likely to assassinate him.
Bush is a dope... a sinister dope, but a dope nonetheless. If the others made him a martyr, they'd have an excuse to carry on what he did...without having to take the blame for his stupidity. Hence I fear exactly that happening. Otherwise, people see through the election fixing one party system, stealing money from the treasury, moving capital assets and money offshore... all this crap.. and throw the criminals out of office.
Don't be surprised if it happens; but I don't expect liberals have any reason to do this. An assassin's bullet is more likely to come from the military-industrial complex. | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 9:34:21 PM | "Any film about the assassination of a living head of state is in poor taste."
Uh huh. Ever hear of the movie "Ishtar"? There are countless movies released every year which are in poor taste. It you don't like the subject matter, then DON"T WATCH IT!! See? It's easy!
"Here in the states if a person talks about or writes about harming a political leader the CIA and FBI are kicking in their door to make an arrest."
So we've heard. But what does that have to do with the film in question? If anything, such a statement only reinforces the need for such a film to be made. | |
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vivid
| Joined: 6/30/2006 Msg: 17 | |
| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 9:49:22 PM | It's interesting how they stopped making Rambo type movies...it's as if it'll confuse the viewer; who are the good guy's again?? Now, it's evolved to a U.S. president getting hit...although I still don't know who the good guys are gonna be in this flick.
BTW it's a Syrian that is taking out Bush in this movie...yep, an Arab.
Anyway, it's shot as a docu-drama-style footage; which ought to be cool to watch.
And it's banned in the USA? WOW....gotta love those ban's - that's like Siscle and Ebert giving a two thumbs up. One fat finger and one skinny one - waaay up. | |
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dmotz
| Joined: 7/25/2006 Msg: 18 | |
| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 9:54:32 PM | | Nice spin fella`s...nice spin...........You fella`s mention some good hollywood movies..But were they made about an actual living President? I dont think so.....Your hatred is obvious....sheesh...Go hug the tree and be happy they did not make the movie about YOU! | |
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Joy.
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 10:36:21 PM | I have to agree with the rightwing guy....Harrison Ford, the president in 24, the first lady in some movie were all FICTIONAL characters. Personally I have no desire to see a movie about our president (my personal feelings and views aside) who is alive and well be assassinated. Hell, I wouldn't even want to see a movie about what would happen to the world around me if I were killed next year.
What's next? The fictional assassination of Simon Cowell and how Randy and Paula will take the helm? Sheesh.... | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 10:52:17 PM |
Go hug the tree and be happy they did not make the movie about YOU!
I'd be overjoyed if for some reason, they made the movie about me. I could really use the money. | |
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rks58
| Joined: 1/28/2006 Msg: 21 | |
| New British Film Posted: 9/2/2006 11:40:20 PM |
And it's banned in the USA? I haven't yet seen anything about it being banned in the US yet nor heard of any plans to air it in the US.
I'm sure there will be a number who will think it should be banned. What makes this funny is that the assassination is simply the opening premise or background on which the film is based not the formal subject.
The film is about the events which ensue in the wake of that assassination, the official and public reaction to it. It is more about how the "war on terror" has impacted on the western (and American in particular) psyche than Bush.
BTW it's a Syrian that is taking out Bush in this movie...yep, an Arab. This is part of the main story of the film but not necessarily indicative of the actual culprit. I suspect that this will be the 'big twist'.
Of course the right-wing in the US have been busy incurring major dental bills from all the chipped teeth that their knee-jerk reaction is causing and trying to portray it as "typical left-wing vilification" of Bush.
It's about the kind of knee-jerk over-reaction that has become so common as a result of the "war on terror" folks, not a "look how evil Bush is" film.
Apparently they don't even need to release the film now to make their point. | |
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dmotz
| Joined: 7/25/2006 Msg: 22 | |
| New British Film Posted: 9/3/2006 8:56:30 AM | Msquared.....
"I'd be overjoyed if for some reason, they made the movie about me. I could really use the money."...... Can I play some small role in your movie? Maybe a thug...how about a nice scene with Shania? Lol...please! | |
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bobby7
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| New British Film Posted: 9/3/2006 9:09:21 AM | Lighten up, RWGG..I don't like the idea either..They should at least wait until he is no longer sitting as pres..IMHO
RWGG...you and Shania, in a movie!! I'd pay to see that
Having said that: If it is already finished, it should not be 'banned' anywhere..No movie should.. | |
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| New British Film Posted: 9/3/2006 9:13:33 AM | I find it funny that there is so much emotional reaction to a work of FICTION. Hmmm, kinda reminds me of all the religious zealots who went apoplectic at the thought of the movie The DaVinci Code.
Funny how similar those things are........funny, indeed......
And wouldn't ya know it.......the world is still standing and hasn't sunken into armageddon because of THAT movie...
If you oppose it because it might give someone some ideas........hahaha! Don't worry, plenty of minds have already crossed THAT bridge. | |
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dmotz
| Joined: 7/25/2006 Msg: 25 | |
| New British Film Posted: 9/3/2006 9:34:41 AM | Cooler.... I would personally not want to stop the movie...even though I disagree with having a SITTING president as a target...No matter who the Prez is... They should wait untill he is out of office..... Here it is six year later and I still have not started my movie on the life of Clinton..It`s a low grade porn called THE BLEW DRESS! Ok...sorry guys.....had to get that one in... | |
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