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 rainbowfishh

Joined: 4/20/2006
Msg: 1
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Posted: 9/12/2006 12:08:39 PM
for those interested...

some things I have read about art materials.

The first pencils were manufactured in 1600's BUT
it was not until 1794 the first modern pencil, a highly portable
form of graphite was made by Nicolas Jacques Conte.

he found that by adding clay to graphite and firing the mixture at
a high temp, he could create a harder material. By varying the amount of clay
used in the mix he was able to produce different degrees of hardness or softness.

also>

some more info...

Graphite occurs naturally and made up almost entirely of carbon...
much like coal. While coal is formed by the action of pressure alone... volcanic
heat is also a factor in the formation of graphite.
The best grade of graphite comes from Sri Lanka where the percentage of carbon
in the graphite is high.


hmmm. I found that interesting.
I wondered why they called them "conte" pencils.
to note: conte comes in stick or wood encased pencils.
 TribalPhoenix

Joined: 9/8/2006
Msg: 2
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Posted: 9/12/2006 12:21:07 PM
Huh...learn something new every day. Thanx.
 rainbowfishh

Joined: 4/20/2006
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Posted: 9/13/2006 8:55:04 AM
I have tried to draw with plain graphite and I really hate it.

Its not easy to erase and I dont like the shiney quality of it...
 heARTeacher

Joined: 6/28/2007
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Posted: 8/2/2007 8:12:10 PM
I think the easiest approach to drawing with stick graphite is to start with a light touch, use the flat/broad sides to lay in largest volumes and work your way down in size as you move to smaller detail. It has the advantage of giving you a broad range of values very quickly. Great for locking in quick motion or abstracted forms.
 Trained Monkey

Joined: 7/13/2007
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Posted: 8/3/2007 3:54:06 PM
I love graphite sticks, you can cover a huge area and you don't have to sharpen them!.

If it's too shiny, look at what kind of paper you are using. Try a cold press paper (with a deep tooth or rough looking) make sure it is not flimsy, maybe try a 120lb watercolor paper. If you use a hot press (smooth/shiny) paper the graphite will look even shinier.
 onlypencil

Joined: 8/22/2009
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Posted: 8/25/2009 6:53:34 PM
Its hard to avoid the shine with pencil drawing. I think it something that makes it unique. If you want to get deeper blacks, you can first add a layer of 8b and over that go over with 6b and keep repeating until you are satisfied with it.
 horneschwoggle

Joined: 8/12/2007
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Posted: 9/10/2009 7:40:49 PM
When drawing with pencil: I outline the intial drawing with 2H, then go back and start roughing it in with H, and finally, tighten the lines up with HB.
Tonal gradation studies for a painting, usually go with 2B or 3B.
I'm heavy handed when I draw, so using the H range of pencils works better for me.
I seem to not have any problems with glare of pencil line, maybe it has to do with the type of lighting i use? or that I have a non-glare coating on my glasses?
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