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Posted: 9/13/2006 12:07:51 AM | Hmmmm ....
NOTE: This thread was originally going to be a REPLY on another thread (the thread was named: "Has anyone been brave enough to meet someone with no pic at all?" and that post and ALOT if not MOST ALL of it's replies REALLY STIRRED me to anger ... and disgust ... and I replied twice to it, but then it would not let me do so anymore .. I don't know why - the website (for some reason??) would not let me post it, and i tried like 10 times to no avail. I am now hoping that I can make my thoughts and feelings known ABOUT what was said on THAT thread, here in a NEW thread.
TOPIC: Why are people so VAIN ?
(read the thread named "Has anyone been brave enough to meet someone with no pic at all?" to get some background information / idea about why I am even posting this thread at all - that thread really made me want to speak out!!!! and I did, my first replies there are on page 39 of that thread, but this reply would not tack-onto it for whatever reason)
Now, before I launch on my next "tirade" (LOL) I do wish to say, that I DO understand the importance of REPRESENTING ONE'S SELF as being "REAL" and in being TRANSPARENT and in truthfully relaying the accuracy of one's appearance as "being what you say you are" ... I FULLY BELIEVE IN BEING REAL and it is a sad pitfall of being online the Internet that people ALL TOO OFTEN love to "hide behind a name" and "be whoever or whatever they want to be" before others, just for the sake and benefit of themselves. I HATE that kind of behavior and I could never condone or advocate it. I have been victimized by people who refuse to "BE REAL" when crossing over from the internet to "real life" MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY times!! So I cannot say that I do not understand what ALOT of you people were writing about. So to quickly settle and slide this aspect of the conversation out of the way, right away, I AGREE and DO SAY that people "SHOULD BE AS REAL AS THEY ARE IN REAL LIFE" when communicating to others about what they are like not only on the inside but on the outside as well.
BUT my main GRIPE about this whole thread is NOT about the REALITY aspect as much as it is about those people who suddenly find out that the person they met from the internet is "too ugly" for them, that the trial and shock of a "blind date" leads to such utter disappointment on ONLY THE MERE LEVEL of one's appearance, even if someone had not been able to, or refused to say just what they looked like ... EVEN THAT POINT ASIDE ... MY GRIPE is about people who believe they are just so much more "prettier than thou" when it comes to being around other people that they BEHAVE LIKE CHILDREN when talking about others, and their standards of dating and being in one's company. People who are so vain like this make me SICK. And I hope I never find anyone like that on here for to be friends with me. But if I do, then I can only hope I can influence them for the better, help them "see the inner light" inside a REAL HUMAN BEING, and perhaps they will really "turn blind" to the whims of one's fashion and "face".
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| WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 12:17:23 AM | (Continued from previous post...)
To reply to an earlier poster, I agree: "Friends" are always welcome in my world too, and a person does not have to "look any certain way" for them to be a friend to me, and I would never require that a person "look hot" in order to allow them to associate or hang with me.
There are people in this world that say "I wouldn't be caught DEAD hanging-out or talking with so-and-so" ... and that is the exact same feeling and vibe that I caught from alot of the posting-people on this thread, MANY PEOPLE who replied on that thread totally came-off this way. To me, anyways.
UGGGGH at some of you VAIN, SHALLOW MORONS !!! :-(
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Posted: 9/13/2006 12:18:50 AM | (Continued ...)
LIVE AND LEARN! LIFE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST WHO LOOKS HOT AND WHO IS "NOT" !!! Turn off the gossip entertainment celebrity TV shows and drop those scam rags and LEARN TO LIVE, LIVE TO LEARN, PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN INNER BEAUTY WHICH SEEMINGLY NO ONE IS ABLE TO SEE BUT THEM !!! I think everyone can agree on this point. EVERYONE has a beauty inside which nobody knows but them. And the problem is that MOST PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN TRY OR EVEN WANT TO SEE ANY INNER BEAUTY because they seem to either fall flat on their face when trying (which is no big deal really, at least people might try and I applaud that), OR they dont even BOTHER to find out just what kind of INCREDIBLE SOUL is inside a person, whatever grade of light there may be inside of them ...
The earth is filled with so many beautiful, bright creations! NOT the least of which is the natural world, not to even mention the "BEAUTY OF THE HUMAN BODY." But anyways, the natural world, which has little if nothing to do with how a man or a woman looks or appears. WE can look at the skies and the waters and the pretty landscapes and appreciate them for what they are, but you seldom find anyone who can also appreciate the somber scenes in our world, the swamps, the broken down city ruins and slums, the disaster areas, the deserts and wastelands and toxic trash dumps that we would all rather ignore ...
Well that is EXACTLY what alot of "vain people" DO to other people whom they consider just that way, "ugly". There are people in this world who consider themselves to be "The Rose of Sharon" when compared to those "toxic trash dump disaster areas" that are the people they just do not or supposedly "cannot" measure up to their own standards of appearance or "style", silly facetious fads and fashions, or what have you.
But let me tell you something... People who think they are "ALL THAT and a bag of chips" (ie: "The Rose of Sharon" type people) are usually never "all that" at all. I have found that people who are SO VAIN AND SHALLOW like that are usually just that, indeed. NEXT TO NOTHING beneath the surface, mostly BORING and SUPERFICIAL, SUPERFLUOUS people who dont even know what it IS to have "TRUE SUBSTANCE" or even know what CHARACTER means, beneath their SHEER VENEER of their much OVER-STATED outer appearance. I have found that many people who overstate the importance of one's appearance ALSO tend to focus next to nothing on what it means to have your own "inner life". Has anyone on here ever read anything by Andrew Murray??? What about Thomas A' Kempis, or St. John of the Cross? maybe even Augustine's Confessions?
I don't even know why i am even asking, 99% of you probably don't even know who or what I am talking about :-(
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Posted: 9/13/2006 12:20:58 AM | (Continued ...)
Whatever happened to HONEST HUMILITY instead of FLAUNTED FOOLISHNESS ?
Sometimes I wonder if I should just retire and become an ascetic monk, one who forsakes all that is external and only focuses on what is inside. I think then maybe I could get away from all these crappy ideas about looks and "being hip" (I am sure they call it something else nowadays), and/or fashionable, not to mention all of the people who believe in the whole "CLICQUE"-y-ness of sites like this, ie: those people who tend to hang together in little isolative pockets of groups of people, and who don't let anyone else associate with them, simply because THEY all dress "right" (to them) and others that don't, well, they resent if not ridicule those who don't, etc etc ....
These kinds of people think they are "The Rose of Sharon" as if their own s_h_i_t doesn't stink.
Then there are the people who, in MY view, truly are AKIN-TO "The Lily of the Valley" - these kind of lilies only grow in the deepest and darkest valleys of life where DESPAIR and HARDSHIP AND PAIN forms the most, and most people would admit that to witness people going through such things is usually seen as to be GROSSLY UGLY. Isn't seeing people going through such things usually seen as to be UGLY to most people? After all, who wants to be like the person who is suffering or in despair or in pain? And is it not a psychological fact of human nature that MOST people will tend to RUN from pain, shun anything new in that area, and always tend to FLEE from pain and RUN TOWARDS PLEASURE, at any earliest opportunity? I have learned that it is psychologically true about human nature that people do just that. EVERYONE RUNS FROM PAIN, FEW WOULD EVER DESIRE TO FACE IT. It is not normally human nature to face pain nor to wish to be in company with misery, or in this context, people who just aren't so-called "happy and pretty enough" to keep them cheered-up enough in their own shaky world which they are too afraid to admit about.
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Posted: 9/13/2006 12:59:17 AM | | I'm kind of wondering what you mean when you refer to those who think of themselves as the "Rose of Sharon" types....if you're familiar with "The Grapes of Wrath" you'd understand that Rose of Sharon proved herself, in the end, to be caring and selfless......putting the needs of others before her own, and in her time of greatest need.... | |
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Posted: 9/13/2006 1:02:50 AM | (Continued ...)
well I tell you what, I admire beauty just like the next person, whether it be on the outside or the inside. But I think I am different from most people. I have made myself do the following things because I STRIVE TO BE DIFFERENT FROM the common man:
I will turn against my own will and I WILL face pain,
and confront all my demons,
I will look myself in the mirror every morning
and check just what kind of person I am, each and every day.
I will allow myself to share in the sorrow and the grief of others,
I want to help bear the burdens
I want to give and to love and to cherish and hopefully to keep
even the back-breaking moments in people's lives who may need me.
I will be a TRUE FRIEND to the UGLY and the "beautiful" alike,
and judge no man or woman according to their lot in life
especially when it has to do with SOMETHING AS INORDINATELY IRRELEVANT as how someone looks or does not look.
I do not find the same things to be "beautiful" as other people do. Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder, and "one man's trash is another man's treasure" and I believe that very much. People who see me on the outside usually do not wish to be around me for very long but i am of the opinion that if they could never see the outside of me and could only see the inside of me, if situations were reversed and all people could see was the inside and never the outside ... I really wonder just how different I would be treated rather than what has happened all my life thus far.
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Posted: 9/13/2006 1:10:07 AM | (Continued ...)
And now I have to make a point from my own personal point of view, and that is this: I have found that those who are considered "ugly" by the standard of most people whom are usually external to them, OFTEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MOST PAIN and RIDICULE, SORROW, RECOMPENSE, and CRUEL HATRED from others based upon the VANITY HATE factor. It happens all the time when kids in school get teased and ribbed and BEATEN UP for simply being over weight or "ugly" in some way. Well I have to tell you people, ALL OF THAT HAPPENED TO ME AS WELL. So I think I have alot of room to say that I AM VERY ASHAMED OF ALOT OF YOU for even talking in the ways that you have! I know that almost nobody here knows me yet, and vice versa because I don't know hardly any of you yet. But this being the 1st post I have ever seen or felt the urge to comment on, right away, well, what can I say? I FELT VERY AGITATED just by reading some of people's chat on here!! YOU PEOPLE MAY NOT BE BEATING UP ON ANYONE OR ANY KINDS of PEOPLES IN PARTICULAR, BUT YOU ARE BEHAVING AFTER A FASHION IN THE SAME WAY AS CHILDREN DO WHEN IN THE SCHOOLYARD, and that is EXACTLY THIS: DENOUNCING THOSE WHO ARE UGLY JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU ARE "prettier than thou" and believe it or not, violence stemming from those kinds of petty and frail ideals - THAT IS HOW HATE CRIMES start ... from even an early age of school years, all the way up to people who just have not been able to master their fears and feelings of inadequacy enough to CONTROL their temperaments about how people look.
And it is my opinion that only the PEOPLE WHO HAVE SO FULLY KNOWN AND UNDERGONE SUFFERING at the hands of others who "think they are ugly" and then people who are told that start believing it after so long a period of time of constantly being told that ... I believe it is ONLY MY KIND OF PEOPLE (the ugly ones) that truly understand what the concept of being like a "Lily of the Valley" means. Without the flimsy feather-flown care-free lifestyles of the "rich and famous" (or in this case, the people who are vain and think we are too "ugly" for them), well, what do they really know anyhow?? Certainly they would never step in our shoes even if they were the last pair on earth ... because to do that would be to step down from their lofty pedestal and suffer the humiliation of a "lesser station" of what it means to be like the "ugly people" LOL
I really should laugh ... because this is sad and pathetic. So much so... that ... I think I am just going to end this reply right here. Seeing people talk about the importance of people's looks is just ASININE.
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Posted: 9/13/2006 1:14:22 AM | (FINALLY this is the end of the continuation of my lil "rant" or "accurate observation" as someone called it (thank you lol))
... UGGGGH at them VAIN people :-(
LIFE IS ABOUT THE INNER PERSON!! Our lives are here and gone in but an instant, we have only the space of time as it takes a vapor to appear and then waft away! THE INNER LIFE IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT, and how much more so when dealing with our fellow man! FORGET ABOUT THE OUTSIDE AND EMBRACE WHO PEOPLE ARE ON THE INSIDE!! EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS PHYSICAL AND MATERIAL and "appearance-based" IS SUPERFLUOUS AND WILL ALL OF IT DIE IN THE FIRE at the End of the Ages!!
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On another note, another thing I am TOTALLY sick of, is when I write someone just asking to be friends (only), then they write back to the effect where i think they are immediately thinking that I am asking for a relationship from the get-go or wanting to get into their pants right away, and they, literally and REFLEXIVELY, just brush me off with a "sorry I am not interested, YOU'RE NOT MY TYPE" comment - W T F ?!?!? I HATE THAT! Of course it makes absolutely no sense at all, especially amongst strangers who not only do not know each other, but could not even possibly know whether one or the other person is ANY type, to begin with. Impossible, nonsensical. And I am only here looking for friends ONLY, FRIENDS ONLY, FRIENDS ONLY LOL geezus. Yet when I write such a simple introductory PLATONIC FRIENDS-ONLY letter, so many women just seem to think they are reading between the lines or something and THERE AREN'T ANY LINES to read between. I think they just think that I want to "take them" into a relationship somehow, or bed them right away. NOT! uggh ... *shakes my head big time* lol What is wrong with you people who do that ?!?!?
ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHH WHERE are people's MINDS???
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Posted: 9/13/2006 1:20:55 AM | first of all your not ugly lets get that out of the way, if you think you are ugly someone has been messing with your head.....NO REALLY!!! but I will say it is refreshing to see someone as eloquent as yourself put the holier than thou in their place. not that it will do any good because I know and you know that it won't but it doesnt hurt to vent, hey maybe someone will "get it" though I highly doubt it, perhaps when the beauty fades from their faces at around 55years of age it will sink in and when all that tanning they do makes them look like leather faced beasts [payback is a **** lol] then and only then will they begin to understand what your saying...
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Posted: 9/13/2006 1:24:48 AM |
I'm kind of wondering what you mean when you refer to those who think of themselves as the "Rose of Sharon" types....if you're familiar with "The Grapes of Wrath" you'd understand that Rose of Sharon proved herself, in the end, to be caring and selfless......putting the needs of others before her own, and in her time of greatest need....
Actually no I have never read that book but I DO know that he took that name-phrase [the] "Rose of Sharon" from the BIBLE!! And that is where I was drawing my reference FROM, not that book. :-) As far as what I remember, from the Bible, to not go into detail about historical reference, I can say what I remember in that "The Rose of Sharon" was typically used to express something that is very beautiful, not just a flower or a woman, or even a man, just something that is widely recognized as a beautiful creation. And in a prophetic sense, it is also a type of Jesus Christ. NOW, I HAVE TO SAY that I was not in any way alluding to the reference to Christ or that book "Grapes of Wrath" AT ALL. NOT AT ALL. But what I was getting at, is, there are people who "like to be looked at" as if they are "all that beautiful" as the "Rose of Sharon" .... some people's vanity makes them act and believe like they are "all that and a bag of chips" etc ... Some people can get so obsessed about their image and/or self-image that they really end-up becoming the OPPOSITE of what they think they are.
And to mention I was drawing a comparison between "The Rose of Sharon" and "The Lily of the Valley" (also a type of Christ but I was not using this phrase in that sense neither). I was talking about how self-vaunted Roses are nothing of substance just sheer looks, when compared to a "beautiful creation" of a person who has gone through hard times just because in earlier times they were regarded as "ugly" before, and "not up to snuff" as far as the Roses-type people were ever concerned.
I was just making comparisons vis-a-vis them examples. I may have used them out of context, sure, but I was trying as best as I could to convey my point of view. My apologies if I confused anyone.
oh and PS: as much as I admire the REAL biblical concept of the "Rose of Sharon". I think I much prefer the substantial character of a NON-VAIN person as represented by someone who has definitely undergone a life of pain and suffering, as depicted in "The Lily of the Valley" *if wisdom would smile, then picture me doing so now* :-)
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Posted: 9/13/2006 1:30:40 AM |
first of all your not ugly lets get that out of the way, if you think you are ugly someone has been messing with your head.....NO REALLY!!! but I will say it is refreshing to see someone as eloquent as yourself put the holier than thou in their place. not that it will do any good because I know and you know that it won't but it doesnt hurt to vent, hey maybe someone will "get it" though I highly doubt it, perhaps when the beauty fades from their faces at around 55years of age it will sink in and when all that tanning they do makes them look like leather faced beasts [payback is a **** lol] then and only then will they begin to understand what your saying...
aye, matey! ARRRRRRR ye be right! hehe
but i wish people would discover such truths while they are yet young, heck i still feel young, i am only 33 going on 34. And while I know that nobody has ever called me "ugly" (not by looking at my face anyways), I can tell that I have been through alot of abuse during my childhood years when having to suffer under the yoke of older kids whenever they could not stand looking at me, the overweight boy, whose fat made him UGLY (so they said, and as i also began to believe more and more ... until i developed a true mind of my own and wrote them off).
Anyways ...
I wish I could have posted all these things on that OTHER THREAD but this darn website does not seem to like large replies, so I had to cut everything into little bits and pieces and damn i hate that. Why doesn't the Administrator here let people post as long as they want? or is that a "feature"? lol
oh well.
I hope that people (ESPECIALLY younger people too, because they usually ALWAYS fall into the TRAP of Vanity) - I hope they DO listen and HEEEEEDDDDDD what I have said. VANITY is not just a sin against one's self, it is also a HUGE SIN against other people. Because, as I said already, it affects your state of mind and thinking and how you act and talk around others. how you treat others is based on how you treat yourself !! And VAIN people are notoriously SHITTY to many people in that regard! Hence my whole point lol
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Posted: 9/13/2006 2:55:37 AM | Ok....say you this chick is on here and she says HOWDY DO to you...she has a great smile in her pic and you fantasize what it would be like to meet her and date her..k? She tells you that she works out three times a week and bike , hikes and is very healthy..So after a few more emails and phone calls you ask her to meet you k?
When you finally meet her...she is a wee bit older than the pic shows...about 100 pounds heavier than you thought see would be and her teeth are no longer ..white and bright..oh and she smokes a lot..
EVEN you would think...what the heck? It's not vanity..it's the lies that is spread when we talk to people...they don't want to here your a few pounds heavier?
Vain people that get on here ..are just on to play games..they are not really interested in find that GREAT LOVE..they are bored and don't have any thing else to do but play games.
Oh..and it has something to do with PICKING ALL THE CUTE HOT BABES with no clothes on but a bra and thong that has something to do with it...too..sheesh..try ordinary gal next door types next time.. | |
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| WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 3:35:20 AM | Hi Black Beard
I just got home from work so Im a bit out of it, the more I read of your post the more I found my mind drifting off. I get that your Pi ssed off by fake people. All I can say is if I had a million dollars I would want just one wish for the world to kiss while Im on the John! Though I would still be out robbing armor trucks! Look some people are vain thats life! I guess just Jesus turns the other cheek! Maybe someday as their looks start to fade away they will get the point!
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| WHY are people so VAIN? Arrrghh, it makes me so sad, sick, and angry :-(
Posted: 9/13/2006 4:58:52 AM | Oh wow I am with you on that! That is not a post...that is someone freaking out. And a very handsome man to boot - now does that make me shallow as well?? And someone said 55 makes people start to lose their looks...only 11 years away for me...and I plan to still look good then, lol! There is a beauty at all ages, especially when people value their health. It's all relative.
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