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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 7:50:04 PM | Heard something interesting on the radio the other day, Tom Leykis, love him or hate him..he's entertaining. The discussion focused on a service out there, the name isn't important but they provide a service. Instead of a background check on a prospective mate, this service provides a "decoy". The decoy can be male or female. The customer base is predominantly female, asking for a female decoy to "test" a poor unfortunate putz in regards to monogamy and of course infidelity. The women using this service are either married, engaged or entertaining a LTR of some sort.
The decoys, all very attractive women (and men), don't ask the target to go out, have sex, lawn bowl or anything, they just strike up a conversation, like, "I'm new in town, where's a good chinese joint?", or "How to I get to (insert name of club) from here?". I'm sure they add a little flirtatious wink, hair flip, boobage adjust or something, but they don't outwardly suggest anything. According to the woman who owns this business, in the 7 years of operation, 100% of the men have made a move on the decoy. No, that's not a typo, 100%. They've either asked to accompany them somewhere, given numbers out, asked to call them later, do the nasty...the whole thing.
She states that it gives a woman a chance to "fix" a relationship gone bad.
Now the question, would you if financially possible of course, take advantage of a service like this, male or female. Have you contemplated background checks, quite cheap to accomplish these days actually. Honestly, in this day and age, with the internet taking the place of bars, clubs, knitting circles and the anonymity of the keyboard, isn't it a good idea?..or not? If you suspected your potential mate, or current mate of cheating, or if they're just exhibiting behavior that juuuuuust doesn't seem right, would you consider hiring a decoy to poke. If he/she jumps on the decoy, you know....not to be trusted..move along, nothing to see here....if he/she politely helps the decoy and goes on his or her way.....then ya got yourself a keeper.
The point Tom Leykis made, is that men in general, will hop at the chance to well, you know, bwaa haa haa with a beautiful woman. A man has what he can "afford" in a woman. If a woman comes along, attractive, well above the norm for that particular man, wild horses couldn't keep him from cleaning out that stall.
It all boils down to trust....are you trusting?
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 8:14:17 PM | a decoy wouldnt really matter at first...
first thing that maters BEFORE getting in toooo deep
is to know who your dealing with... aka background check.
If that all checks out... and you like this person
and decide to date exclusively...decoy maybe later... more so if there is any
suspicion of cheating.
ps.. yes I have done background checks and they are awesome... saves
me a future of bad surprises.
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 8:31:25 PM | I have a hard time believing the 100% thing.....you'd think somewhere
in the mix would be ONE faithful guy? The only explanation I can come
up with is that anyone willing to spend the money for the service likely
has a pretty good idea that their mate is cheating. Another thing to
consider is this.......if you pay for the service, and your SO is not being
unfaithful, rejects the decoy, and then finds out about the whole thing,
you may well risk losing a faithful partner. Personally, I don't think I would
spend the money. If I have that much reason to suspect she's cheating,
(because cheaters suck!) I'd likely move on, I tend to go with my gut feeling. | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 9:17:19 PM |
heyitsdoug: I have a hard time believing the 100% thing.....you'd think somewhere
in the mix would be ONE faithful guy? The only explanation I can come up with is that anyone willing to spend the money for the service likely has a pretty good idea that their mate is cheating.
Good call. The sample is pre-screened to use statistical parlance. The service is used by people who are admitting to having a poor judge of character. These people attract others with poor character. If you read the forums on here enough, you'll notice that the same people continue to have the same problems. You know the type..."I can't believe there are so many losers out there", "no headgames", "I can spot a player a mile away", etc.
GE&H | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 9:37:15 PM | By the time I get to the "relationship" point, I would only be in it if I could trust him. Of course it takes me a long time to get to to the point where I would consider myself in a boyfriend/girlfriend sort of relationship.
I'd never, ever resort to paying to have a background check. | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 9:57:05 PM |
I have a hard time believing the 100% thing.....you'd think somewhere
in the mix would be ONE faithful guy?
Think about it, this is not a random sampling. If somebody is so suspicious they need this kind of service they're probably suspicious for a reason. So really this proves "100% of people whose wives think they're cheating on them have husbands who will, given half a chance, cheat on them.
Like, duh. | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 9:59:09 PM | a decoy wouldnt really matter at first...
first thing that maters BEFORE getting in toooo deep
is to know who your dealing with... aka background check.
If that all checks out... and you like this person
and decide to date exclusively...decoy maybe later... more so if there is any
suspicion of cheating.
That's what Kathie Lee Gifford said too!
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 10:12:26 PM | Hmm, I'm kind of torn on that one. Obviously it will be a severe test to any man if a supermodel comes up to him and starts talking. And i doubt the women don't do ANY flirting whatsoever. Men come in contact with beautiful women everyday and don't make a move. These decoys must be doing something.
I would like to hear the statistics on the male decoys. If they send a handsome, well dressed smelling of money tall dark guy, and he starts chatting up a female, my guess more than one would give him her #. | |
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Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 12 | |
| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 10:15:28 PM | Just how great looking are these women??
I hate to sound cynical here but haven't we realized by now that under
the right circumstances most of us will cheat? So what if he gets
caught?....the woman will eventually figure out that almost every dude
she has tested is gonna fail. These women are professional
flirts and know how to use their body and mind to prove he's a cheat...that's
their job. | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 10:24:11 PM |
Vivid: I hate to sound cynical here but haven't we realized by now that under
the right circumstances most of us will cheat? Once again I'm happy to be in the minority.
Happily zagging,
GE&H | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 10:26:20 PM | I do a back ground check on every person in my house, becouse i work with kids it is a DHS requirement.. Anyone that lives in my house or stays even over night.. for long periods of time.. must have a background check..
I ask all men if they can pass a OBI and sexoffender check.. if not bye bye.. if so.. your in for the time... lol
I have had 3 men live with me and all of them have not ever questioned it.. it is a must in this day and age.. NO check.. NO date.. with me... Pastor Jewels.
Anyway.. i dont ever have to worry about it again.. I found my soulmate on this site.. so he knows and he will always get one done. when the time comes.. that he starts to stay at my house... bye bye. | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/21/2006 11:43:51 PM | Sure is nice we don't have background checks in Canada.
We're trying to keep all the paranoia and fear about everything south of the line.
Some people just don't want relationships to work. If they can't find something wrong, hey let's make something happen. Being happy for more than a day is just too much for some.
If I was with someone and they were snooping around and playing detective, I would kindly show them the door. Why try having a relationship if you have trust issues should be the question at hand.
Hot dogs at baseball and hockey games are the best. | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/22/2006 2:53:25 AM | | Heck all ya have to do is get a friend to submit and profile...and chit chat away with the sucker...see where it goes. I did this and the conversations were BORRRRINNNGGG>.......she finally dropped his butt because his conversations were not interesting..but she did find a guy she likes on here..hope it works out for her... | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/22/2006 9:07:47 AM | I did a background check on one guy and found out he had two illegitimate children with other women while he was married to his second wife, plus he had a criminal record. All this was a long time ago, so I believed him when he said he had changed his life. It was a lie. While we were dating, he had a warrant out against him for back sales tax for his business, and he cheated on me. He's still cheating. He's telling people he's getting married, but he's dating at least two women. One, who has kids, and stays at her house every night, and the other, who stays at his house a couple of times a week.
I thank heaven every day I got out of that one.
And yes, I'd do it again. If I could have afforded it, I would have had a P.I. watch him. | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/22/2006 10:44:29 PM | If I had just met somebody and wasn't yet exclusive with them or hadn't decided if I was serious about them and some random hot chick started coming on to me, well hell yeah, I'd go for that, why not?
But if someone set me up like that, and I somehow got wind of it prior to being hit on by a decoy, I'd just go along with it just for the fun of it.
Firstly, if someone was so mistrusting or unsure of me to do that, then I don't want anything to do with them anyway.
Secondly, someone who does background checks on potential partners couldn't be trusted themselves by default. I would be mortified if I found out someone did that to me.
"No I don't have a record and I'm not a deadbeat father." <-Simple one sentence answer to a simple question. | |
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vivid
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Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 20 | |
| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/22/2006 10:59:56 PM | Monogamy is unnatural. It's astounding that humanity would create rules
that go against the grain of nature and then point the finger at especially
a man that is following his natural instinct. Then we create these traps
with incredibly gorgeous women who can flirt and set you on fire - he
fails the test and we point our collective fingers and laugh at him.
Who's funnier you or him? He's being true to himself....how about you?
According to the woman who owns this business, in the 7 years of operation, 100% of the men have made a move on the decoy.
You don't say?? WOW.....men following their programming. 100% failure? Not 95% but
100%.
Monogamy is a lie.....there is no such thing. Why? Because most people here
have been cheated on and/or have cheated and will cheat. You know who
you are.
Once again I'm happy to be in the minority.
Happily zagging,
GE&H
Well dude, I don't know what to say except........the
only time I was a 'decent guy' was when the right 'opportunity' didn't present itself to me.
I can't afford to get caught but the truth is.....I ALWAYS have those impulses
but can't act on them because of the artificial rules and it's consequences.
The solution....end the relationship amicably. Tell her there's no love....don't get
married or discuss it maturely and honestly. Tell her you love her and you need
time to 'find yourself' and that you'll never find somebody like her blah blah blah then BAIL!
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/22/2006 11:34:26 PM | I'm quite sure I don't know what background checks have to do with decoys, much less hotdogs, but this whole decoy business is nothing less than bullshit.
Reality check; if you put a roast turkey in front of a guy who's been living off of bread and water for the last decade, just what the hell do you think's going to happen? What's more, it's not as if women approach us every day now do they; after all, men have to work for it, always have, always will.
Bottom line; if men were sought half as much as women, further given sex for the mere asking, we wouldn't be half as enthusiastic about it as we are. So yea, if some hoe, all tramped out and looking like a Cosmo model were to approach us, you bet your ass we'd bang it; further do so out of freakin spite for having been raised in a sexually sadistic environment which conditions us to do so. Don't think so? I know a few, billion dollar corporations which will surely beg to differ.
Hey, here's an idea. I'll start a business testing women; I'll tie a wallet and palimony grant to a fishing pole line, cast it in front of some men’s wives, and see who chases after it, lol. Makes about as much sense… | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/23/2006 12:03:32 AM |
Vivid: Monogamy is a lie.....there is no such thing. Why? Because most people here
have been cheated on and/or have cheated and will cheat. You know who
you are.
Well dude, I don't know what to say except........the only time I was a 'decent guy' was when the right 'opportunity' didn't present itself to me. I can't afford to get caught but the truth is.....I ALWAYS have those impulses but can't act on them because of the artificial rules and it's consequences.
I can't follow your 'logic' or your moral compass - but hey, I'm okay with that. Enjoy your marriage.
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vivid
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Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 23 | |
| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/23/2006 12:10:58 AM | Well, dude, if you are so moral, why are you so single and I'm not?
I suppose it's one of lifes quirks eh? Somebody who's so 'a-moral' such
as myself has no trouble getting the girl in the end.
It's probably because I lay it all down and am honest about myself - the good and bad.
There is no such thing as the proverbial "nice guy" in the sense that you
believe....what girl is gonna believe that? Look at the evidence....100% failure rate.
Maybe I should BS and act like I'm this 1 in a million kinda guy.......hmmmm.....nah, not
too many dumb girls around these days.
Yeah, I'm enjoying my marriage.........so far. | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/23/2006 1:29:07 AM | I check out the Sex Offenders list for my area every once in awhile, because for some reason, we have alot around here. There's one on the street right behind me. I was talking to a gentleman regularly for a couple of weeks that I met on this site. I casually mentioned that I put his zip code in at the Sex Offenders website, not expecting to see him, but to see who was in his area. I mentioned it to him and he blew up and called me a liar, and said I should trust him. Why should I trust someone I don't know from Adam? Turns out, he said on his profile that he didn't do drugs, when he told me he smokes pot every day. Who's the liar now? I've been on this website for almost a month and have only gotten a couple of responses, I think because, 1. I don't have my pic up yet and 2. I'm honest, and don't want to mislead people into contacting me who may not like my situation or my style of humour.
I've never done a background check on anyone. I would feel it in my gut, I hope, that something wasn't right with the person before it came to that. As for the decoys, I've seen them doing it on T.V. shows, and the guys were always hanging out in bars. I'm sorry, but if you're supposed to be getting married, living with someone, or are supposedly in a committed relationship, what the hell are you doing hanging out in a bar? When I worked as a bartender and other jobs dealing with the public, the guys who hit on me the most were almost always wearing wedding rings.
It turned out that the man I was speaking to from POF didn't seem stable, as he raised his voice to me, and we hadn't even met. We were planning on it, we had alot in common, but if he yells at me, no way, I've had a father! I can throughly understand if someone wanted to do a background check on me, I've had them for jobs before. Big deal. If you have nothing to hide, what's the problem? I think you have to earn a little trust before you expect people who don't know you to totally trust you. If my children were younger, I might be inclined to check someone out. If that pisses off a person, then what are they hiding? Maybe people should mention that they'll be doing a background check just to get the other person's response, could save you the money. I think they're are honest, moral people out there, but they are at a premium. I'll take morals and integrity over looks and money any day. | |
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| Background Checks, Decoys & 2 Hot Dogs for a buck.....
Posted: 9/23/2006 3:53:29 AM | | This is a tad perplexing... if the decoy works 100% of the time, then where is the test? I mean if you're going to throw out bait that no person can resist (which seems to be the case) why waste your money? Just stop looking for "proof" and go ahead and ditch them, even if it's not the intent, it seems to be the end result 100% of the time! | |
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