| | Define the "Theory of Creation"Page 1 of 7 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) | | Since we've had a thread on what the theory of evolution is I think it's only fair that we have a thread on the theory of creation. So Creationists: Tell us what your theory states, especially in the area of predictions that were confirmed only after they were made. | |
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obliq
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/24/2006 7:07:17 PM | Oh, I've got to have fun with this. Thanks, CountIbli. You're making my day.
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First off, the "theory" of Creation, ain't no "theory." It's a fact. Get it right, you liberal leftist terrorist-hugging hippie.
Second, God made everything as it is, right now, 6,000 years ago, except without the cars and the TV. He saw fit to give us those things when we were ready.
Third, there ain't no way on God's green Earth I come from some dirty, ugly, flea-bitten, poop-tossing, diseased monkey living in the trees. That's just ludicrous. God made us, poof, just like that, man and a woman. It says so in the Bible. Read it, you tree-hugging godless homo-loving whacko.
Fourth, there ain't no such things as dinosaurs. "Scientists" just made them up. If it ain't in the Bible, it didn't exist. And God didn't make dinosaurs.
And for the last time, the Earth is flat, the Sun goes around it, and men did NOT land on the moon.
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/24/2006 9:07:44 PM | haha...i was waiting for this thread to be started...
hmmm...the usual thumpers haven't responded yet...c'mon Rateropark, radioflyer, jarbarian, countless others...lets go! | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/24/2006 9:31:35 PM | I don't think there is a single theory of creation that stands as "THE" definitive theory of creation. It's unfair to oversimplify the question IMO, especially in an attempt to create a strawman about a 6000yo earth.
For example from many peoples viewpoint, the story is highly metaphorical, especially as related to the term "Day" which is a literary device as opposed to a literal 24hr period.
But that's just it. There are hundreds of varieties of Christian's, nevermind Jews, Muslims, assorted pagans and countless others who can't agree on a common theory of creation so I don't think it is definable.. | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/24/2006 9:34:03 PM | First off, the "theory" of Creation, ain't no "theory." It's a fact. Get it right, you liberal leftist terrorist-hugging hippie.
This is the funniest thing I've read all night. Creationism is theory AND fact. Just like the Flying Spagetti Monster and The Invisible Pink Unicorn.
Second, God made everything as it is, right now, 6,000 years ago, except without the cars and the TV. He saw fit to give us those things when we were ready.
For in Leviticus 2:11 it says "And they shall have steel and rubber cages for which to travel home to a box of light and sound. And it shall be good."
Third, there ain't no way on God's green Earth I come from some dirty, ugly, flea-bitten, poop-tossing, diseased monkey living in the trees. That's just ludicrous. God made us, poof, just like that, man and a woman. It says so in the Bible. Read it, you tree-hugging godless homo-loving whacko.
You forgot the part about where God is all powerful, all knowing and everywhere... but needs cash. QUICK!
Fourth, there ain't no such things as dinosaurs. "Scientists" just made them up. If it ain't in the Bible, it didn't exist. And God didn't make dinosaurs.
I guess Christianity and America are bunk too. No mention of either the word Christianity or America. But I guess it depends on what version you're currently using and abusing.
And for the last time, the Earth is flat, the Sun goes around it, and men did NOT land on the moon.
Wow. Sounds like Terry Pratchett's Discworld. I wonder if we're also floating through space on a giant turtle too.
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/24/2006 9:53:47 PM |
It's unfair to oversimplify the question IMO, especially in an attempt to create a strawman about a 6000yo earth.
Using the geneologies in the Bible you can trace creation back about 6000 years. Almost all Young Earth Creationists say the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. So it's not much of a strawman really. | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/24/2006 10:57:59 PM | Young Earth Creationisim certainly does exist, and is taken seriiously by it's adherents. However these adherents are pretty much limited to North American Evangelical Protestants, who while vocal are hardly representative of creationists as a whole. And it's well worth remembering that Protestants are not automatically YEC.
When this thread was created it's quite obvious that posters jumped all over themselves in a mad rush to attack, and mock YEC adherents..it's the very definition of straw man even if that was not the intent. | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/24/2006 11:07:22 PM | No, I think this thread was started to see what creationists think. So far none have shown up, perhaps because they do not choose to think. They choose to have faith and faith is not thought. Faith is repetition and tedious religious quotation.
"I hate quotations. Tell me what you know."
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| pairodoxx regrets to inform you....
Posted: 9/25/2006 12:53:32 AM | | all this maddening talk takes me back to those good old childhood days where religion was shunned in the home and evolution and the idea of neitzsche's ubermensch dominated. and i laugh now as the rightful buddhist laughs at all idiocy. knowing the full history of many of the worlds religions i must begin by saying religion is only a tool of hierarchal society to instruct the masses to sheep-like adherence and keep the bloodlines straight, and right so with anything christian. heh heh. like the medieval church promising its patrons that they could actually buy a plot in heaven if the tithe was right. and to cut to the proverbial chase, whats in a question like where did we come/evolve from? a tireless bore debate when, if someone is truly aware, realize its not the past that dictates anything, nor the future, but the present. using god to explain the world is alright if you intend to be shallow and obsessed with everything but whats really going on, but its when others start really listening to this retarded dribble you have to cringe. god creates, but dosent intervene, and all of you out there bible thumping simpletons will have your supposed hell to pay for the suffering you inflict on others with your zealot behaviour and ideals. i hope you all become enlightened by this lifetime, or youll be remanded to poop throwing flea infested whatever monkeys for the next hundred lifetimes, and be the omega monkey all the males dry hump! | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/25/2006 11:29:57 AM | This is an interesting load of rubbish... 6000 years... if you knew your bible, you see in Gen 1 ver 2 ( fourth word in.. WAS without form and void ) Corectly translated ( Now read it in hebrew ' haw-yaw' means became without form and void. )
That means the earth was already in existance. Otherwise God would have not moved on the face of the waters.
And if you read Gen 1 ver 1 you see he had already made it. | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/25/2006 12:39:29 PM | Well lets see now. I have my own creation theory that relly on the suppernatural. Want to hear it?
Tough, i'm gona tell you anyways.
In the begining there was Chaos.
Then out of that chaos, order arose (as is the nature of chaos to create whatever it feels like doing).
The universe was subject to laws and rules for the first time and for so to time for the first time.
This was the beging of the universe.
Slowly, the universe grew, and chaos shrank, untill fearing its own demise the chaos grew a consiousness (as is the nature of chaos to do things that are contrary to its nature.)
But thought without form is nothing in a phiscial universe, so the chaos took on a host.
On one misserable little speck of dirt, (coincedently with a name that meens dirt) there were some rather primative little monkeys hitting each other with sticks.
The chaos saw these monkeys and thought "aw how cute, I want one!" (as is the nature of chaos to be stupid!)
This was the beging of man.
So man and chaos played for a while, and eventualy chaos remebered that it was looking for a host. It chose man. (as is the nature of chaos to take the easy way out.)
This was the beging of religion and politics and all of mans problems.
So what do you think?
No realy, seriously, I actualy belive in this. Its no ludicrous than anything else, I just happened to have phrased it in an amusng manner, but I don't belive any of it is contrary to science and it is easily open for interpretation so works well as creation theory if you ask me.
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/25/2006 12:52:16 PM | anyone who believes that "God" created everything really shows a worrying ignorance,lol
firstly God is an unreal thing,it was created by man to try to justify everything that is all around us!
in ancient times people used to be illiterate and there was not technology,however,right now we have technology and we DO know nearly everything.
now i rest in peace,lol (please God do not send me to hell as it must be very hot) | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/25/2006 5:03:53 PM | Hello beautiful earthlings!! You all know the story of Adam and Eve? But did you know that men have one set of ribs less than women? We are still waiting for the missing link that connects homo sapiens to the chimps. there is problem with the vocal cords of the chimps being too far down to ever give rise to speech. Ever. ...The best my prof could come up with was the theory of a water monkey.
The eohippus (and supposed pre-horses) grew sets of ribs then decreased them, unusual in the evolution way of life...Did you know a living plant was carbon dated hundreds of thousands of years old. Hm. often a whole skull was fabricated form a single tooth, was that one from the pig^^ cannot remember.Many strange and fabricated cases attributed to the theory of evolution have nbeen scientifuically documented. Alas, Darwin himself confessed to the presence a creator on his deathbed (but maybe that doesn't count as deathbeds are scary places)
Why do you care what evangelicals believe anyway? You put your faith in many things to task daily, you believe many things you have not, will never see. There is verse in the Bible that challenges God to reveal himself to you if you earnestly seek him. Why not ask Him to do so?? I did, very specifically. and was answered as as such, having been as agnostic as you and more so...
The fact that you question this reveals a deep desire to be convinced...we all want to live happily ever after, forever...could it be true, is it?? You want to be convinced...true agnostics!!Am proud of you!
Good luck in the search for the meaning of your existance
Try praying and watch what happens-you will be amazed, I am certain...
(a million bucks does not count...but you may get the happiness you think it brings without actually getting the money... heehee).
You are wonderful creations, may I add...
Angel
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/25/2006 5:10:50 PM | realpedro-you checked off Catholic-that is kinda funny! considering your last post! You are such a comedian!!
Thanx for the laugh realpedro!! Form Spain, eh? Ever run from the bulls? Now there is a sport to make one a believer fast!! No veo una corrida pero gusta veo unos dias...no habla espanol bueno, estudio en collegia pero oblidado todos!!!
Hasta luego!
Angel | |
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obliq
| | Joined: 6/16/2006
Msg: 15 | |
| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/25/2006 5:43:38 PM |
barnesbrook: That means the earth was already in existance.
I've read Genesis (mostly) and came to the realization that God didn't create the Earth. It was already here. So I suppose God didn't create everything after all. He just accessorized.
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The universe was created when the Great Arkelsiezure sneezed. We should all be living in dread of the Coming of the Giant Handkerchief | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/25/2006 6:51:54 PM | Barney: you just want attention, but have you thought of a career in comedy? :)
you did not so read Genesis....Youa re too busy thinking up creation stories!! Do you not fear God? Waiot till tomorrow...He does get angry now and again...
Angel
be careful!!
will you get back to me if you are alright??? | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/25/2006 10:23:32 PM | | The theory of evolution is basically the change in a species over time to adapt to its environment. This can result in the development of a new species. This has nothing to do with birds changing to hippos. Sorry Mongushi. Yes, Evolution is a theory, but so is gravity. You can never 'prove' a theory to be 100% correct, because you never know if the results will remain the same in future experiments. However you can always disprove a theory with even a single repeatable observation that disagrees with the theory. And like gravity, evolution still has yet to be disproven. However, this thread is not about Evolution, it is about Creationism. And we still haven't heard a believer share their theories on Creationism yet. A couple of people have circumvented the subject and even went straight to attacking Evolution again. Come on people! Your theories for Creationism have to be more complex than "Well I refuse to believe I came from a monkey, so a supreme creator must be the answer." Somebody has to have an answer. Let's hear it... | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/25/2006 11:35:15 PM |
And we still haven't heard a believer share their theories on Creationism yet.
I'm not surprised. Evolutionists hav been asking for a statement of the "theory" for decades and no one has come forward. If Creationists ever did come up with a theory of Creation (which makes testable predictions, has had some verified, and agrees with all relevant data) I'd support teaching it in public schools. I'm not holding my breath though. | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/26/2006 12:54:51 AM | | A good way to prove creation is to reverse engineer it. If this can be done maybe we can figure it out. | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/26/2006 1:33:44 AM | | It'll be interesting to see what happens when the Large Hadron Collider is turned on next November. I hope a black hole opens up and swallows The Vatican. That'll learn 'em. | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/26/2006 12:25:16 PM | While I thank the count for starting this thread, I really wish you guys wouldn't bash it. This really is for creationists to find some kind of consensis on what "creationist" means. Otherwise we evolutionists can't effectively debate with them.
And proverbgirl, I started the idea so that when the next creationsim vs evolution thread comes up, both sides have a reference point with which to debate from.
Also, men and women have the same number of ribs. Google some x-rays if you want.
PS. I'm a pain.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=601#comic
That reminds me of sooo many creationist arguments. | |
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| Define the Theory of Creation
Posted: 9/26/2006 10:11:17 PM |
We could talk about the big bang,and just a whole host of topics, If you want
Instead of talking about a whole host of topics let's stick to the topic of the thread. Please state the scientific theory of creation, the predictions it has correctly made, and predictions about the future yet to be tested but which could be tested. | |
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