| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 9/30/2006 1:14:08 PM | On more than one occasion, I've heard people (both men and women) say that California men seem to be a bit more flaky (game-playing, commit phobic, etc), than other men in the country. I've even seen it be referred to here on POF in various threads.
Personally, I don't know if it's true or not. I'm a California native, have never lived in another state so I've got nothing to compare California men to.
I don't know...I'm more inclined to believe that California men are no more flakier than other men in the country.
I think this "flaky California men" mindset comes from the general belief that we Californians are all layed-back, carefree, tree-huggn' health freaks who tend to be "flaky and superficial" in general.
Yeah, right....
So, whata ya think? Fact or myth?
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 9/30/2006 1:26:57 PM | | I think that the myth does sprout from other myths that are about California. I have dated men that were born in California but spent a majority of their years growing up out of state and they did not seem to be any different in terms of needing to commit or not commit. I really think that it is based on the individual, their upbringing, and what they want out of life, not the state that they grew up in. | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 9/30/2006 1:36:43 PM | Yep, I agree Goddess. That's how I view it...you're a product of how you were raised rather than where you live.
One day at work not long ago, a few female co-workers and I were talking about men in general, and one of them, who is originally from Illinois, said that Califonia men seem "superficial" compared to men in other states. When I asked her why she felt this way, she said that the culture out here in California is different than other states, and as a result, our culture produces a more "flaky and superficial" attitude. She went on to say that we Californians are a "instant gratification" culture and we tend to take life less serious.
I found her "observation" interesting....a little jaded, perhaps...but interesting just the same.
~Irish~ | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 9/30/2006 3:01:27 PM | | Some of that is true, but CA also has the biggest population of all the states and tends to attract a lot of young people, who aren't really known for being responsible, so that tends to keep the flakiness myth going. By the way, it doesn't just apply to men here, women can be just as bad, too. | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 9/30/2006 3:42:14 PM | Well, as a native California man I have to ad my two cents here. There are flaky men AND women everywhere. A person's state has nothing to do with it. But times are different now than they were years ago when there were regional differences. With cable TV and the Internet, people are programmed from the same sources, so those regional differences have been erased. At least for the most part. People in other states see what Californians are supposed to be like on TV shows, so they think we're all like that. I guess that makes all California women like Paris Hilton?
When I read the profiles women have posted I see many of them saying the same things, which gives me the impression that those women are flaky and superficial. All many of them want to do is run around every minute and have fun. I like to have fun too, but many of us men have responsibilities. After working all week, on the weekends we have lawns to mow, weeds to pull, cars to wash, houses to clean, kids to take care of, and in my case, an aging parent to watch out for. Does all of that make me superficial? Or does it make me a decent man who takes his responsibilities seriously?
I know there are lots of great women out there who are not like what some of the profiles suggest. Too bad the women who think California men are superficial can't see past their own superficial selves! | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 9/30/2006 5:55:39 PM | Speaking as a California-import, from England... I see no greater flakiness here than anywhere else I've lived... which is limited to multiple counties in England and... here. Grass is greener syndrome... however, its the same everywhere... apart from Switzerland of course. :)
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 9/30/2006 7:17:43 PM | Irish
I am also a native of california......And I think whoever says that should ask the guy where he is from orginally...........Most people here are not natives. At least I have not met that many in my life time. I think it is Myth or otherwise known as sterotyping......Or maybe from watching TV shows about the Beach......
I love the Beach Boys the orginal california boys  | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/1/2006 12:29:03 PM | I dunno--I lived in Toronto for 4 years, and the guys there weren't any more serious or responsible than the guys here! What I did notice travelling around the east coast was that Californians seemed more laid back. You could always spot the Californians in the airports--they had bleached hair and wore flipflops with their business suits! They looked like they were ready to relax at a moment's notice (funny, since living here they never seem that way!).
Maybe people see 'seemingly laid back' and think flaky? *shrugs*
J | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/3/2006 3:55:51 PM | | Well, I dont know if I can really speak for californian men as a whole but, ive lived in california, utah, new mexico and texas most recently, and I havent noticed any difference between the way men act in any of these states (except for utah but thats because they are kooky up there). | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/6/2006 5:30:42 PM | I'm a California native, too. All the rude, obnoxious drivers come here from other states, as do the flakes. It has over time flaked out the entire gene pool, so, the best answer is: It's a crap shoot. Men are the same everywhere.
Except me. I am unlike any other.
I rock! | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/6/2006 8:45:42 PM | | I dunno... the guys I know here in SoCal aren't flaky at all. But then again, most of them are non-natives (New York, Seattle, Houston, etc). I've lived in three different states (Illinois, Texas, and now Cali) and I'm going to echo others in the thread about the uniformity of (non) flakiness. Part of it, I guess, is what community you're a part of. I can't speak to the rest of the state, but if the people you interact with most are generally flaky, then the whole place can seem that way. | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/6/2006 9:41:49 PM | | It's all crap. Flaky people, as with stupid people and bad drivers, are everywhere (watch your a$$ on the road). | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/6/2006 9:44:58 PM | | I can't really call myself an expert on this topic because I've never dated a California man on account of me not being gay and all. But I can tell you California gals tend to be slutty and superficial. Of course, they'll never own up to it. | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/6/2006 11:49:37 PM | Well siknerd , Sounds like you got ur heart broke, What you couldnt get in her pants and some one else did? Bet you wouldnt say that to a girl if she was given it up to you the first time you to met. Sex is Sex weather its in Cal or Russia, If that wasnt the case we would all be sluts or maybe you are lean-n towards the other side !!! Its all a myth , Its the person not the region they live in either your a phony or your real. What are you? Own up to it dude. | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 12:08:17 AM | I dont really know what is considered a "slut" anymore. Everyone has sex. If you were to date a girl who didnt have sex with you, most guys unfortunately would break it off after awhile. I have a hard time calling anyone a slut, unless the girl is sleeping with multiple people simultaneously and racking up numbers in the 100's, its tough to lump anyone into that group. You figure if a girl sleeps with 1 guy a year since she was 18 and shes in her 30's, thats 15 or so guys. It seems like alot, but spaced out its not bad at all. Anyways, as for the thread a few posts up, I dont know about Houston , but the drivers in San Antonio are atrocious....worst driving i've ever seen (next to Mexico) | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 12:09:25 AM | | Im not flaky, I just have a hard time commiting to anything...Or making my mind up...What was I talking about? | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 1:30:48 AM | | BTW Coach is a retard. go travel down to san diego and see if the people down there are any different....Ill tell you before you book a flight. Yes they are. I lived in Indiana and YES the people were different than cali. Try leaving california before you open your mouth. | |
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daisie
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Joined: 9/22/2004
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 6:44:09 AM | I grew up in California and have lived in other places (temporarily in MN now)...I'd say this whole thing is a MYTH. Goofy people are to be found everywhere!!
Sterotype.
Maybe there was some teeny tiny seed of truth at one point (as with all/most predjudice stereotypes) and it got exaggerated and blown out of proportion...and became this predjudice that people have against Californians.
But WHO CARES???? We all Knooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwww they're really jealous of California sun and surf and tans while they freeze their sorry, sad, pathetic behinds off in snow and blizzards 4-6 months out of the year.
SUCKAS!!! Call me a flake if ya want....Just call me at the beach, baby!! | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 3:24:33 PM | | Alot more racism back east. Tighter community. Hard to make friends. Yes I lived there for a while and had about one friend. Came to cali...Had a bunch of friends within the month. BUT im sure im wrong. | |
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Sh0t
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Joined: 9/27/2006
Msg: 21 | |
| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 3:49:27 PM | I have commitment avoider blatantly in my profile. I live in San Diego. I was born and raised in NYC, however.
Cali men are smarter. | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 4:28:58 PM | | I don't think there is any difference in the guys here than anywhere else and i've lived in a couple of different states. I mean my friends here or there didn't seem flakey at .........................what was I talkin about again?? Oh never mind, Have A Nice Day!! | |
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Lyra
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Joined: 9/11/2006
Msg: 23 | |
| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 7:19:13 PM | | It is a myth!It is not their fault that there are to many women there comparing to men...I mean "real men"... | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 10:28:20 PM | The men in California are DEFINATELY different.........but so are the women!
I had MUCH better luck in the dating world in Texas..... but, that could be because I'm not a thin tall blond!
I'd love to meet a midwestern guy!!! | |
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| California men: Fact or myth?
Posted: 10/7/2006 11:29:14 PM | | I second the motion for miswestern guys! I've dated my share of commitment-phobic males, the kicker was I wasn't even looking for a commitment...they automatically assumed I wanted one. Some men just scare themselves and I don't think it's a California thing. I think the type of women California men look for (mostly southern cali) are slightly different than most, but flakiness is everywhere. It's just hard to find quality people sometimes! | |
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