| CFL or NFL
Posted: 9/30/2006 10:34:44 PM | Hey just an idea but instead of comparing apples to oranges, sorry i mean the CFL to the NFL, why not let them settle it on the field, pick a neutral site like Las Vegas or somewhere both leagues dont play, and have the winner of the superbowl play the winner of the grey cup, and then see who the ultimate league is, course my money is the fans who would win big time on this, they could call it the Grey Bowl, as long as janet doesnt perform at halftime again and do a little nipple slip thats all good, any opinions or hateful comments, i encourage you to speak out,
Go Stamps Go, CFL talking here. | |
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Posted: 9/30/2006 11:02:06 PM | It wouldnt be even close... I am a proud Canadian, but compared to the NFL, come on, we, the cfl, would look like the Raiders playing against the Colts.
Ive seen both games live, and the NFL is so much faster and there is a reason their players make millions and ours still work at car lots in the off season. | |
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Posted: 10/1/2006 12:50:00 AM | Ive seen both games live, and the NFL is so much faster and there is a reason their players make millions and ours still work at car lots in the off season
If you ask a thief why they rob banks, they'll tell you...."Cause thats where the money is" The best players are always going to go to the NFL cause thats where the money is. | |
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Posted: 10/1/2006 9:14:29 AM | | nfl dolphins rule (the cfl can of course keep Ricky Williams) | |
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Posted: 10/1/2006 2:58:19 PM | | An American here that due to having a friend in Hamilton, ON I just happen to be a Ticat fan. I wanna see a game between the leagues as well. I think if the money were on the table, the owners of both leagues could find a way to join. It would work. Remember the old days of the American Basketball League? They were absorbed into the NBA as time went on. NFL players do make more money but dont mean all of them are worth it. I think it would be a good game between the best of both leagues. Let them play one game to CFL rules and one to the NFL rules, or a hybrid rule book of both leagues. Of course if could happen if the owners of teams from both leagues wanted it to happen, all about the money! | |
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Posted: 10/1/2006 4:34:22 PM | | NFL would kill them | |
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Posted: 10/1/2006 4:34:58 PM | | Also who rules would you play under | |
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Posted: 10/1/2006 9:11:54 PM | Are there any sleeper players that should be in the NFL?
If so, who?
I'm curious... | |
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Posted: 10/1/2006 10:20:45 PM | | First I'd like to see a CFL team beat a BIG 10 NCAA team. Then we'll talk NFL. CFL players have nothing on NFL players, maybe NFL Europe, but it would be close. There are very few CFL players that make it big in the NFL and why is that? The CFL is for bottom feeders or someone that needs a paycheck *cough*jessepalmersrickywilliams*cough*. If the winner of the grey cup played the worse NFL team, then there may be a game, but no way an elite team in the CFL can match an elite team for the NFL. | |
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Posted: 10/2/2006 6:28:56 AM | | CFL vs NFL....can't compare since both games are very different, and the athletes in the NFL are built for that game and the same goes for the CFL. That's why players can never really transition well from one league to another. Which is why when CLF "star" players go to the NFL and never become all-starts in the NFL (with a few exceptions). A NFL player would never play in the CFL first because they can probably make more money on the practice roster of an NFL team then being paid as a starter in the CFL. | |
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Posted: 10/2/2006 6:44:12 PM | | They are different games folks! I love both leagues but they are different games! They are played differently our field is bigger! Go Big or Go Home take your nfl and keep it south of the border I love the CFL! | |
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Posted: 10/3/2006 1:14:49 PM | Ive played both American and Canadian rules. The games dont compare. In the NFL, you have smaller field (100 yds with 10 yrd endzones) In the CFL, you have a larger field (110 yrds with 25 yrd endzones)
I disagree that the NFL is a faster game. The CFL is more wide open. The rules vary alot, but I wont get into them. One rule I disagree with in the NFL is they dont have a 5yrd rule on punt returns. If a player can time it, he can destroy the punt returner as soon as he catches the ball. IMO, this could, in extreme case, paralyze the returner.
NFL has a 4 down rule. Come on now, if you cant make a first down on 4 tries on a smaller field, you should give up football..lol.
Only reason money is better in the NFL is cause well, I dont think the NFL players really love the game. To them its a job and they wanna get paid. In the CFL, I think its the opposite. A few of the teams here are community owned.
Canadians dont thrive in the NFL because, well, simply put...How can you compete when the US has a population of over 300 million and Canada has over 30 million. With more to choose from, of course you will get better players.
BTW...for the poster who said that the CFL is for bottomfeeders who just need a paycheque...ie Ricky Williams and Jessie Palmer...Well, Jessie Palmer is Canadian. And I dont like the open door policy the CFL has. We shouldnt be allowing drug addicts to play our game, it just ruins it for people who really do wanna play. | |
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Posted: 10/3/2006 2:22:04 PM |
I disagree that the NFL is a faster game. The CFL is more wide open. The rules vary alot, but I wont get into them. One rule I disagree with in the NFL is they dont have a 5yrd rule on punt returns. If a player can time it, he can destroy the punt returner as soon as he catches the ball. IMO, this could, in extreme case, paralyze the returner.
There is something called a fair catch which the CFL doesn't have. When fair catch is called, the ball is dead where it is caught.
Canadians dont thrive in the NFL because, well, simply put...How can you compete when the US has a population of over 300 million and Canada has over 30 million. With more to choose from, of course you will get better players.
Mike Vanderjagt is Canadian. It's not that we don't have the population, it's that we don't have a program like the NCAA that can groom future stars. Have you seen some highschool programs down south? It's beyond anything I've seen here and I played ball throughout highschool. | |
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Posted: 10/3/2006 2:52:21 PM | | You meen you'd like to see a bunch of athletes NOT GOOD ENOUGH to compete in the NFL against the worlds best football players in the NFL!!?? You on crack?? lol. I'd rather watch the San Francisco 49's play the Indianapolis Colts. lol. | |
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Posted: 10/3/2006 3:03:52 PM | | they actually had such a game back in the early 70's...and the CFL won! Go figure... | |
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Posted: 10/3/2006 6:35:29 PM | Back in the seventies/eighties, it was a level playing field. Edmonton amongst others could have played any of them. Now im not so sure, well actually im pretty sure they shouldnt play against each other | |
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Posted: 10/3/2006 7:28:22 PM | | There was a time when black QB's could only play in Canada. There was a time when the money wasn't much different. Bart Starr actually was offered more money to play in Toronto in his rookie year, but opted for the NFL. But the games are entirely different and different skills are rewarded in the different leagues. Jeff Garcia was a pretty good QB in Calgary; All Pro in the NFL. Doug Flutie was a pretty good QB in the NFL; but the best player to ever suit up in the CFL. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 7:20:15 AM | "they actually had such a game back in the early 70's...and the CFL won! Go figure..."
Not the whole story.
"In the days when sports teams were financed almost entirely by ticket sales the CFL and NFL were, financially speaking, on relatively equal footing and the CFL could sign top U.S. college football stars such as Johnny Rodgers and Joe Theismann. In fact, during the 1950s and 1960s exhibition games were played between CFL and NFL/AFL teams using a mixture of rules. The last such exhibition game saw the CFL's Hamilton Tiger-Cats defeat the AFL's Buffalo Bills, the only time in which a Canadian team defeated an American team in those series."
One win for the CFl out of many games.
This is a silly thread. The CFL is a good league and fun to watch..........but not in the class of the NFL. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 7:43:27 AM |
Jeff Garcia was a pretty good QB in Calgary; All Pro in the NFL. Doug Flutie was a pretty good QB in the NFL; but the best player to ever suit up in the CFL.
Jeff Garcia was pretty lucky to make All Pro because of his receiver, Terrell Owens. Fluttie was just above average, nothing too spectacular in the NFL, he's too small for a QB in the NFL. The two were good in the CFL because well the talent level isn't there and they had good receivers. If you're talking about Warren Moon, then that's a different story! | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 7:34:07 PM | | Hate to tell ya if Buffalo had of played Flutie instead of who was it Johnson, they would have won the super bowl, oh well dumb move! by a dumb coach and football minds that did not see the value of Doug Flutie! I still love Flutie he was a great qback here in Toronto and Calgary! big q-backs can't scramble like smaller ones! they can not scramble out of the pocket! they sit and hope their offencive line stands tall and protects them! If you like the NFL so much move to the states and enjoy the crap games from the crap teams in the league! OUr players are smaller and faster! our game is more wide open! People here whining for an NFL franchise no thanks keep it south of the border. When is the last time you can honestly say you have seen a gut wrenching super bowl???? think hard on that one. I can think of a few grey cups that have been gut wrenching and exciting to watch! | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 10:10:08 PM |
Hate to tell ya if Buffalo had of played Flutie instead of who was it Johnson, they would have won the super bowl, oh well dumb move! by a dumb coach and football minds that did not see the value of Doug Flutie! I still love Flutie he was a great qback here in Toronto and Calgary! big q-backs can't scramble like smaller ones! they can not scramble out of the pocket! they sit and hope their offencive line stands tall and protects them! If you like the NFL so much move to the states and enjoy the crap games from the crap teams in the league! OUr players are smaller and faster! our game is more wide open! People here whining for an NFL franchise no thanks keep it south of the border. When is the last time you can honestly say you have seen a gut wrenching super bowl???? think hard on that one. I can think of a few grey cups that have been gut wrenching and exciting to watch!
Buffalo in the Superbowl??? That's a little far fetched... They were no where close to the powerhouse since the Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas days. Actually there are many big qbs in the NFL that can scramble such as Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb, Jake Plummer... As to close Superbowl, I admit there have been blowouts, but you can't deny that for the grey cup! The last 4 Superbowls were no where close being blowouts and were actually good games to watch. As for smaller and faster? I don't think so... The best receivers or running backs in the NFL would tear up any CFL team. There is a reason why some of receivers and running backs get double coverage most of the time, they're just unstopable, too fast and too big.
Take a look at Montreal's new QB, Jesse Palmer. A classic case of failure in the NFL. He was so so at Florida nothing too spectacular. He was better than average in Highschool nothing to brag about. When he hit the NFL, he was drafted by NY as a future prospect in the 4th round. He played 7 games during his tenure and had a pass completion of 52% and rushed for 20 yards. And then he was cut this past year, I wonder why? No arm and cannot move for NFL calibre. So who picks him up? Montreal... I sure hope Montreal has a good line to protect him because I see him getting hit a lot if he scrambles, he is so slow! I'd point out a washed up Ricky Williams, but that's a whole different story there.
The much larger field argument is getting old. If the qb is half decent, then he can thread that ball into traffic. A running back can open a game up if he has a the right blocking scheme. I don't see how a wider open game would be more interesting or harder??? A smaller one has less realestate to cover; therefore, allowing double coverage and very creative block schemes to open up a running game. CFL has a larger playing field, but keep in mind that the CFL has 12 players and not 11 like the NFL, that makes a huge difference. So the amount of realestate to cover is offset by the number of players. As for larger endzone, are teams having issues with a shorter one because it is too hard to throw one into it?? Probably, but I high doubt that... it's that stupid rule where you get 1 point for screwing up a kick, but you put it through the endzone.
CFL is around only for prestige. It's not the league it was say 30 to 40 some years ago when there were more teams and the playing level was much higher. It's a league for individuals that couldn't make the NFL, but would rather play a game they love as oppose to flipping burgers. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 10:49:02 PM | I've watched quite a few CFL Games over the years and it can be entertaining and competitive, but to retort on some of your statements.....
big q-backs can't scramble like smaller ones! they can not scramble out of the pocket! they sit and hope their offencive line stands tall and protects them!
McNabb goes 6'2 240
McNair goes 6'2 230
Brooks goes 6'4 220
Our players are smaller and faster!
Do you think there are any DB's in the CFL that can cover Steve Smith, Owens or Holt one on one? Or linebackers that can cover Tomlinson or Johnson coming out of the backfield
When is the last time you can honestly say you have seen a gut wrenching super bowl????
How about Super Bowl XXXVIII New England 32, Carolina 29...Vinatieri kicking a 41-yard field goal with four seconds remaining
How about Super Bowl XXXIV St. Louis 23, Tennessee 16...Derrick Mason getting tackled at the one yard line as time expired...not bad | |
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Posted: 10/4/2006 10:59:41 PM | | LOL LOL LOL. You have a nice little league, but honestly, the best CFL team could not beat the worst NFL team | |
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Posted: 10/6/2006 7:12:16 PM | Yeah right have you seen the worst in the NFL! they suck! and our best team would kick their butts! American's think they have the best got news for ya pal it is not a nice little league! Crappy super bowl games most entertainment is the half time shows and the commmercials the game itself sucks! Don't get me wrong I watch both leagues but take offence to people slamming our league!  | |
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Posted: 10/7/2006 2:09:52 PM | | cav brought up joe theismann, and i made me wonder if theismann had never played for the redskins we would not have to listen to him drone on and on. pretending he has actually done some homerwork on the teams who are playing in front of him. and to think he could have been canadas .........ahhh well.... | |
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