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 Babylonia

Joined: 1/27/2005
Msg: 1
"Idiot" barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/1/2006 2:46:08 PM

'Idiot' barb gets passenger detained
POSTED: 9:34 p.m. EDT, September 28, 2006
From Mike M. Ahlers
CNN
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Wisconsin man who wrote "Kip Hawley is an Idiot" on a plastic bag containing toiletries said he was detained at an airport security checkpoint for about 25 minutes before authorities concluded the statement was not a threat.

Ryan Bird, 31, said he wrote the comment about Hawley -- head of the Transportation Security Administration -- as a political statement. He said he feels the TSA is imposing unreasonable rules on passengers while ignoring bigger threats.

A TSA spokeswoman acknowledged a man was stopped, but likened the incident to cases in which people inappropriately joke about bombs. She said the man was "a little combative" and that he was detained only a few minutes.

The incident has ignited some chatter on Internet travel Web sites. More than 83,000 people have clicked on a FlyerTalk.com forum devoted to the episode, and the forum has grown to include 30 pages of comments.

Bird, the vice president of a company that manufactures industrial equipment, said the encounter occurred at Milwaukee Airport on Tuesday, the day the TSA eased restrictions on carry-on liquids, gels and aerosols.

Bird entered the airport checkpoint with a see-through resealable bag containing small containers of toothpaste, deodorant, mouthwash and hair gel -- in keeping with new TSA requirements.

"My level of frustration with the TSA and their idiotic policies has grown over 2 ½ years," he said. "I'm frustrated that poorly trained TSA people can pull random passengers out of line and pat them down like common criminals. The average traveler has no recourse."

Bird put the marked bag in a plastic tray along with his shoes and cell phone. A TSA screener saw the bag and went to get a supervisor, who grabbed it and asked Bird if it was his.

"It was obvious that he was already angry," Bird said, adding that the screener told him, "You can't write things like that."

The supervisor told Bird he had the right to express his opinions "out there" -- pointing outside the screening area -- but did not have the right "in here," Bird said.

The supervisor called a sheriff's deputy, who checked to see if Bird had any warrants for his arrest, Bird said. Bird asked the officer if he was under arrest, and was told that he was being detained, he said.

A supervisor said he was going to confiscate the bag, but after Bird refused, he just photographed it, Bird said.

Bird said he filed a complaint about the incident with the TSA.

A TSA spokeswoman said she could not confirm whether Bird had filed a complaint, but described the incident as insignificant.

Screeners looked at the bag to "make sure it wasn't anything like a bomb threat," she said. She said the man was "a little combative" and that a law enforcement officer came over, briefly interviewed him and determined that he hadn't broken any laws.

"Everyone's entitled to their own opinion," she said.

A spokeswoman for the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office said the TSA did call the sheriff's office to report an upset customer at the checkpoint. A deputy went to the scene, interviewed all of the participants, ran a wanted check on the man, and referred it back to the TSA after determining no crime had been committed, Deputy Darice Landon said.

Landon said the original call came at 2:21 p.m., and it was unclear how long the man was detained. There is no indication that he was combative, she said.


http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/28/idiot.baggie/index.html
 SoTexMan

Joined: 8/23/2005
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Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/1/2006 3:36:35 PM
Hey, all:

One doesn't know whether to laugh or to cry at this news. The clear idiocy (sorry) of the TSA people who apparently have no ability to "read" passengers (despite their vaunted training) is reason enough to laugh at it, but their creeping totalitarian practices are reason to cry.

Just another part of the bringing to life of Emmanuel Goldstein.

Oh, and "Kip Hawley is an idiot". Gee, we could make bazillions of bucks on T-shirts. How old is this news? Ha ha ha.

David


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 RedneckHippy

Joined: 8/7/2006
Msg: 3
Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/1/2006 9:49:10 PM
Another example of Civil Service at it's very retarded best.
 grog27

Joined: 2/25/2005
Msg: 4
Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/1/2006 10:13:20 PM
"Another example of Civil Service at it's very retarded best."

Indeed. Another example of the dangers resulting when you give retards a bit of power.
 cougar99

Joined: 6/1/2005
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Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/1/2006 10:39:28 PM
TSA complete joke, they have failed miserably, allowing scissors to be carried on a flight legally, yet all types of weapons slip past their highly trained staff.
They also want to get credit information on those who fly, why??, doesn't make sense does it.

Carry scissors thats ok, but if you have a bad credit report, sorry, write someones an idiot get detained, who knows what is allowed to sneak past, while they are in the process of practicing "politics".
Yes their prorities are just like the government, in the wrong place.
 Shangrilah

Joined: 5/27/2006
Msg: 6
Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/2/2006 9:57:30 AM
Tell me about it!

I work at an international airport and have to go through security every day
 ticketybooh

Joined: 11/25/2005
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Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/12/2006 9:58:22 AM
does this validate the phrase :only in america: cant believe how dense some people can be pardon me for not understanding lol.
 frapplesnort

Joined: 10/3/2006
Msg: 8
Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/12/2006 10:52:42 AM
If they start detaining idots at airports I'm taking the train.















I mean so I don't get stuck in long lines.
 DJ Smak

Joined: 1/16/2005
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Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/12/2006 1:44:20 PM
Kip Hawley IS an idiot. Truth be told haha
 Thorondor

Joined: 8/13/2005
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Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/12/2006 2:09:46 PM
I quite enjoy that they thought that calling someone an idiot was akin to making a bomb threat. I...um...yeah, I just can't see the connection. Words don't blow things up. Words poke fun, and that is all.

I have never flown through the U.S., but it will be interesting if I ever do...
 memory maker

Joined: 9/7/2006
Msg: 11
Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/12/2006 2:55:20 PM
Evidently the freedom of speech doesn't exist in their little feifdom. They guy should sue them for infringement of constituional rights. They sure enough proved the point of the statement on the bag.... wotta crock...
 DJ Smak

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Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/12/2006 2:59:45 PM
constitutional rights are becoming something of the past very quickly
 cougar99

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Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/12/2006 3:57:48 PM

Evidently the freedom of speech doesn't exist in their little feifdom. They guy should sue them for infringement of constituional rights


Good luck the TSA has your credit report, your medical records etc, thanks to the Patriot Act, you have no rights as far as they are concerned.
Start trouble with them and you will find yourself in a jail cell with no rights, thanks to the Military Commissions Act.
Don't forget we are giving away our rights and freedoms to be safe.
 Piranha

Joined: 7/2/2003
Msg: 14
Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/16/2006 9:05:18 AM
I swear, the TSA is beginning to remind me more and more of the former DDR MfS "Stasi" day in and day out. So much for freedom of speech.
 Shangrilah

Joined: 5/27/2006
Msg: 15
Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 10/16/2006 9:18:23 AM
They're full of shit - they confiscate our food, like yogurt or soup, yet the Horizon employees can bring that stuff in because they don't pass through security

What's fair and equitable about that? They have no consideration for airport employees - we have to cut through the line when we go through, which isn't right to disturb the passengers like that

a$$holes
 smitten2meetu

Joined: 11/16/2004
Msg: 16
Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 11/6/2006 11:01:09 PM
The fear is causing too many people to be paranoid and travelling is becoming irrantant than enjoying experience. If writing Idiot on your personal belongings, causes the fear to come out, I wonder what would have happened, if he wrote "go to hell" would have caused at an airport to stop flying.

Freedom of speech can be limiting...good grief.
 nipoleon

Joined: 12/27/2005
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Idiot barb aimed at TSA's Kip Hawley gets passenger detained
Posted: 11/7/2006 4:21:47 AM
At least half of any type of security is to intimidate the innocent rather than catch the guilty.
All you have to do is get a bunch of people on an airplane with none of them carrying a bomb.
A simple first step would be, NO carry on, at all, ever.
The airlines supplies everybodys toys they need during the flight.
I bet they could figure out a way to start serving food again.
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